PS3 Price Cuts or Bust

[Lionheart_0]

Hey ladies, get on topic.

[Harakiri]

And on topic is, Can the PS3 survive ten years like Sony seems to think?

[3rkid]

And on topic is, Can the PS3 survive ten years like Sony seems to think?

 

 

 

Yes, it's got the capability. It all relies on sails at this point.

[PoorLepRecon]

And on topic is, Can the PS3 survive ten years like Sony seems to think?

 

 

 

Yes, it's got the capability. It all relies on sails at this point.

 

 

 

With Activision threatening to drop support of the console, you have to wonder if other developers are going to follow suit. Will the PS3 be able to survive without big companies like Activision?

[3rkid]

And on topic is, Can the PS3 survive ten years like Sony seems to think?

 

 

 

Yes, it's got the capability. It all relies on sails at this point.

 

 

 

With Activision threatening to drop support of the console, you have to wonder if other developers are going to follow suit. Will the PS3 be able to survive without big companies like Activision?

 

 

 

I don't know what possessed me to type "sales" as "sails"... :?

 

 

 

But myself, I do not believe Activision will drop them.

[RayOxide]

Activision wont be taken on board by Microsoft or Nintendo, so it's not like they have other options...

[PoorLepRecon]

And on topic is, Can the PS3 survive ten years like Sony seems to think?

 

 

 

Yes, it's got the capability. It all relies on sails at this point.

 

 

 

With Activision threatening to drop support of the console, you have to wonder if other developers are going to follow suit. Will the PS3 be able to survive without big companies like Activision?

 

 

 

I don't know what possessed me to type "sales" as "sails"... :?

 

 

 

But myself, I do not believe Activision will drop them.

 

 

 

Activision has found a home on the Wii developing mostly shovelware worth games or stripped down ports. They have to occasional gem, but most aren't worth picking up. The casual crowd buys most of their watered down titles and encourages them to continue making cash-in games. It wouldn't hurt them to drop the PS3 at this point.

 

 

 

Activision wont be taken on board by Microsoft or Nintendo, so it's not like they have other options...

 

 

 

Why won't they? They have plenty of titles on the Wii right now, including Call of Duty and Guitar Hero. They are already being supported by Microsoft and Nintendo. Activision does not exclusively develope for Sony.

[3rkid]

Well, we'll leave the decision to them after Modern Warfare 2 is released. ;)

[PoorLepRecon]

As long as the PS3 user's support Activisions games, I don't see them dropping the console completely. Like you said, MW2 is going to be huge sales-wise, so Activision should be happy with the PS3's sales.

 

 

 

But you should look at Battlefield 1943. It was just released last Wednesday and the Coral Sea challenge is underway. The PS3 has consistently gotten half the kills that the 360 version has gotten since its release. Now, player skill does play a part in the numbers, but the PS3 still lacks the number of users to rival the Xbox 360 or the Nintendo Wii. If the PS3 does not gather the number of users to rival the other systems, then developers might decide to make their games exclusive to those systems, without having to worry about converting to the PS3 for fewer sales.

[RayOxide]

Why won't they? They have plenty of titles on the Wii right now, including Call of Duty and Guitar Hero. They are already being supported by Microsoft and Nintendo. Activision does not exclusively develope for Sony.

 

 

 

Quite a fail saying that.

 

 

 

Yes I know they go with Nintendo and MS, but both have better game developers that actually spend time on games they make. Whereas activision mainly work for the PS3 and their sales and whatnot.

[Maze]

I was bashing all three consoles because to me, they all suck.

 

 

 

I feel the same way. I bought a Wii a long time ago, and sold it. Why? Because it sucked.

 

 

 

PS3 is too pricey.

 

 

 

360 has too many FPS games, which like you, Ratchet, I do not enjoy. Some are okay, like the Battlefield series.

 

 

 

I have a PS2 and a PC. I mostly use my PC, and play older games like The Elder Scrolls III.

[Dirkmetal]

I would like to point out that the 360 is shooting for a 10 year life aswell.

 

 

 

@Ratchet; I am tired of FPS's as well.

 

Good thing we have Castlevania to look forward to.

 

If you like RPGs, I would give Tales of Vesperia a go.

 

 

 

Other then that there is just so many damn shooters -.-

[wild_goat_14]

The reason the Xbox works is because of the business model Microsoft uses. The console is sold at a loss, and profit is recouped from Game sales and most importantly, online subscription. This is where the PS3 falls down. Expensive already (and it still looses money), free internet use and high game development costs.

 

 

 

I'm not bashing the PS3, I'm just saying that Sony has approached the market with a defunct business model, which may lead to the early death of the PS3.

 

 

 

But, the PS3 is still one of the cheapest Blu-Ray Movies players, which may be a factor in the sales slowly (and not rapidly) declining.

 

 

 

I have heard somewhere that a PS3 game only costs $8 to make, leaving quite a bit of game production profit.

[Dirkmetal]

The reason the Xbox works is because of the business model Microsoft uses. The console is sold at a loss, and profit is recouped from Game sales and most importantly, online subscription. This is where the PS3 falls down. Expensive already (and it still looses money), free internet use and high game development costs.

 

 

 

I'm not bashing the PS3, I'm just saying that Sony has approached the market with a defunct business model, which may lead to the early death of the PS3.

 

 

 

But, the PS3 is still one of the cheapest Blu-Ray Movies players, which may be a factor in the sales slowly (and not rapidly) declining.

 

 

 

I have heard somewhere that a PS3 game only costs $8 to make, leaving quite a bit of game production profit.

 

Make?

 

I would have to guess you do not mean develop.

 

Development costs are in the millions for most games.

[Faux]

The reason the Xbox works is because of the business model Microsoft uses. The console is sold at a loss, and profit is recouped from Game sales and most importantly, online subscription. This is where the PS3 falls down. Expensive already (and it still looses money), free internet use and high game development costs.

 

 

 

I'm not bashing the PS3, I'm just saying that Sony has approached the market with a defunct business model, which may lead to the early death of the PS3.

 

 

 

But, the PS3 is still one of the cheapest Blu-Ray Movies players, which may be a factor in the sales slowly (and not rapidly) declining.

 

 

 

I have heard somewhere that a PS3 game only costs $8 to make, leaving quite a bit of game production profit.

 

 

 

Where did you hear this from? Some of the good arcade games on the 360 cost about $500k to develop. Imagine publishers employing devs and artists spanning over 9 months to however long to develop just one game.

[3rkid]

The reason the Xbox works is because of the business model Microsoft uses. The console is sold at a loss, and profit is recouped from Game sales and most importantly, online subscription. This is where the PS3 falls down. Expensive already (and it still looses money), free internet use and high game development costs.

 

 

 

I'm not bashing the PS3, I'm just saying that Sony has approached the market with a defunct business model, which may lead to the early death of the PS3.

 

 

 

But, the PS3 is still one of the cheapest Blu-Ray Movies players, which may be a factor in the sales slowly (and not rapidly) declining.

 

 

 

I have heard somewhere that a PS3 game only costs $8 to make, leaving quite a bit of game production profit.

 

 

 

Where did you hear this from? Some of the good arcade games on the 360 cost about $500k to develop. Imagine publishers employing devs and artists spanning over 9 months to however long to develop just one game.

 

 

 

They won't be happy when they have to share $8... :ohnoes:

[Harakiri]

Update on why Sony feels they shouldn't cut the price.

 

 

 

Anyone who watches GametrailersTV (On [bleep]e TV 12 Eastern time on Thursday nights) might have seen the interview between the gametrailers dude and a Sony executive. According to the executive, apparently they won't cut the price of the PS3 because they feel you are paying for a huge experience and for the ambiance of it all. Apparently they want us to pay that much for Blu-Ray, for free online, and also because they have a great line up of games on the way.

 

When asked what games are lined up, the guy from Sony looked at the interviewer kind of weird like he didn't expect that question.

 

"God of War 3 and Uncharted 2".

 

Wow. Great line up, two games to pay 400 bucks for (plus the games are like 60 bucks).

 

Am I still the only one who thinks Sony are trying to sound like they are in great shape but are just hiding the fact that they are losing tons of money and have nothing much to offer with their system?

[Kiriyama]

Yeah, I paid £300 for my PS3, along with Assassain's Creed (well, my second one, first one crapped out after 7 weeks.), and I feel it was worth it.

 

 

 

Blu-ray films are better quality, and cost about the same as DvDs (Matrix trilogy - £30, RocknRolla - £20, Dark Knight + Batman Begins - £28), yeah, I could have bought a 360 and a Blu-ray player, that'd cost me the same as a PS3 (roughly) and I'd have to pay to play online.

 

 

 

From the way I look at it, I got a pretty good deal out of it, and the exclusive games are enough to keep me going.

 

 

 

Though Valkyria Chronicles 2 is supposedly on the PSP when Valkyria Chronicles was on the PS3, now that's a moronic move.

[Nadril]

Update on why Sony feels they shouldn't cut the price.

 

 

 

Anyone who watches GametrailersTV (On [bleep]e TV 12 Eastern time on Thursday nights) might have seen the interview between the gametrailers dude and a Sony executive. According to the executive, apparently they won't cut the price of the PS3 because they feel you are paying for a huge experience and for the ambiance of it all. Apparently they want us to pay that much for Blu-Ray, for free online, and also because they have a great line up of games on the way.

 

When asked what games are lined up, the guy from Sony looked at the interviewer kind of weird like he didn't expect that question.

 

"God of War 3 and Uncharted 2".

 

Wow. Great line up, two games to pay 400 bucks for (plus the games are like 60 bucks).

 

Am I still the only one who thinks Sony are trying to sound like they are in great shape but are just hiding the fact that they are losing tons of money and have nothing much to offer with their system?

 

 

 

Actually the sony lineup looked much more impressive than the Wii or 360 one, at least what's coming out in the future. God of War 3, Uncharted 2, MAG, that team Icos game (forget the name) and some others who's name escapes me at this point. All I can say is I wish I had a PS3.

[Harakiri]

Update on why Sony feels they shouldn't cut the price.

 

 

 

Anyone who watches GametrailersTV (On [bleep]e TV 12 Eastern time on Thursday nights) might have seen the interview between the gametrailers dude and a Sony executive. According to the executive, apparently they won't cut the price of the PS3 because they feel you are paying for a huge experience and for the ambiance of it all. Apparently they want us to pay that much for Blu-Ray, for free online, and also because they have a great line up of games on the way.

 

When asked what games are lined up, the guy from Sony looked at the interviewer kind of weird like he didn't expect that question.

 

"God of War 3 and Uncharted 2".

 

Wow. Great line up, two games to pay 400 bucks for (plus the games are like 60 bucks).

 

Am I still the only one who thinks Sony are trying to sound like they are in great shape but are just hiding the fact that they are losing tons of money and have nothing much to offer with their system?

 

 

 

Actually the sony lineup looked much more impressive than the Wii or 360 one, at least what's coming out in the future. God of War 3, Uncharted 2, MAG, that team Icos game (forget the name) and some others who's name escapes me at this point. All I can say is I wish I had a PS3.

 

 

 

Yeah, they got quite a few titles that I would love. And I personally would love a PS3 to play them. But the lineup still seems skimpy for the amount of money they want for the system, and also I hate how full of themselves they are. They just aren't realising what's going on.

 

Yeah, the 360 had Splinter Cell, the Wii had Red Steel 2 and that was about it.

 

I agree that the PS3 has the best lineup, but it doesn't seem like enough to get me to pay 400 dollars for it, plus the amount for the game.

[Nadril]

Well to be honest if I had the money I'd love to get a PS3 (I ended up paying around that kind of cash for my 360 anyways, stupid wireless adapter) and I don't think $400 is that bad. Either way I'm only hoping for a PS3 price cut because lower prices are always welcomed. I'm not much of a console gamer though, I already feel like I probably wasted money on my 360, even though it is useful to have in every once in a blue moon a good exclusive game comes out for it I'm interested in.

[Harakiri]

Well to be honest if I had the money I'd love to get a PS3 (I ended up paying around that kind of cash for my 360 anyways, stupid wireless adapter) and I don't think $400 is that bad. Either way I'm only hoping for a PS3 price cut because lower prices are always welcomed. I'm not much of a console gamer though, I already feel like I probably wasted money on my 360, even though it is useful to have in every once in a blue moon a good exclusive game comes out for it I'm interested in.

 

 

 

Yeah, I feel the same way. Splinter Cell is something I am really looking forward too, but the 360 was mostly for my brother and dad who wanted to play Halo 3 (which I can't stand). I keep complaining to my dad that I would much rather prefer a PS3 but he is a Xbox Fanboy. He says that I shouldn't get one because I want to get MGS4 and who wants to watch twelve hours of cutscenes in a thirteen hour game and blah blah.

 

 

 

If circumstances concerning the economy were different, I would probably have a PS3, but Sony should take into account the fact that with all the jobs being lost, many people who want one can't afford it.

 

 

 

Eh, I guess they can depend a little on the PSP, but I couldn't stand how few games were released for it. I traded it in for a DS with Castlevania.

[abbydog95]

Ps3 should really get a price cut or else there will be chaos in Sony Headquarters. If it did not have free online/a blue ray player/ and alot of good games, i would have not bought one. I just cant ever see me owning anything besides a Nintendo/Sony platform, i just hate Xboxes :-#

[Blutters]

As more than one person has already pointed out, the XBox360 can easily cost just as much as the PS3 once you get all of the components and pay for XBoxLive.

 

What I don't understand is why some of you think that PS3 games are more expensive. From what I've seen, most new games are the same price on both the XBox360 and PS3.

 

 

 

As for the BlueRay I believe I would be correct in guessing that most people who buy the PS3 with the BlueRay as one of the top reasons are seeing it rather as buying the BlueRay and getting a PS3 with it.

 

 

 

No one here has seemed to acknowledge that the PS3 is also much more aesthetically pleasing, both physically console-wise and virtually menu-wise. However, this isn't much of a selling point if you're not right there, in store, looking at the two side-by-side.

 

 

 

Concerning is that the PS3's supposedly best exclusive, KillZone2, seems to have so few online players. If there are few people to play with online then the free online play becomes less of a selling point.

 

 

 

It is rather hard to name any stereotypes for PS3 users, but there are quite a lot for XBox360 players.

 

Although you may find the same behavior on some PS3 online games where voice chat is enabled, the worst stereotype for XBox360 users is that everyone is crude, foul-mouthed, and short-tempered. I'm not sure how accurate that is but it doesn't seem to make anyone shy away from the console. However, it should still be considered if one were buying an XBox360 for online play.

 

 

 

[hide=Wii words...]The Wii is difficult to judge comparatively; I myself see it more as a generation 2.5 console, rather than generation '3' as I would consider the Xbox360 and PS3. I'm not just going to out and out bash the Wii though.

 

The Wii's graphics are rather outdated, but to be honest, I don't even think that most Wii consumers could tell the difference. The Wii is really a cheap man's toy, or a family console. Since it is the cheapest, some also buy it so that they can feel like they're part of the 'next generation' of gaming. In other words, some feel that they have to have one of the three, and pick the cheapest.

 

I'm surprised when I see any games rated "M" on the Wii, although it's obvious that the Wii could be incredibly more violent than either of its so-called rivals if developers put their minds to it.

 

The Wii has some good exclusive games but almost always gets left out for ports of the topsellers of the XBox360 and PS3 consoles.

 

Without riding on Nintendo's past glories the Wii really only has fluff games, and because of the controllers, many useless accessories.[/hide]

 

 

 

I'm thinking that MAG, despite being seemingly not very well-known, could be a turning point game for the console competition. It will be a game like Modern Warfare, but with more people in each game, and vehicles. It will also be a PS3 exclusive.

 

If the $300 version of the PS3 is real and MAG lives up to what they say it can do (runs smooth) then Sony may make a comeback yet.

 

Also, unrelated, but just as important, top games like Halo3 and Call of Duty Modern Warfare could easily be dethroned by MAG.

[Demoli]

Tbh i think the choice of console highly depends on your favourite genre. If you like FPS, go for a 360, if you want adventure/platforming, go for a wii (it isn't as bad as some ppl make it to be), if you want rpg and action games (and mgs) go for a ps3.

 

On the online side it's pretty much even, 360 has an awesome online service for new games while teh wii has the best retro game service, and the ps3 home gives fresh new ideas as small downloadable games, like fat princess.

 

 

 

I bought a wii because i enjoy the genres it suports, and got pleasently surprised by Galaxy wich turned out to be the best game of our generation (and yes, wii is part of this generation).