iPod Clones

[StreetDream]

So I am getting an iPod Nano-Chromatic Clone. What is the difference between the normal iPod and clone? Does it use iTunes or what? And is the playing function the same?

[champion]

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Why are you buying it if you don't know how it works?

[Dracion1]

Why bother? If you don't want to get an iPod, there are plenty of other good and somewhat cheaper players available. Getting a clone is just asking for trouble imo.

[Nadril]

Yeah... why? If you want a nano I would just get another Mp3 player that uses MicroSDHC or something. Probably can get that 4GB-8GB of space at a real fraction of the price. (Hell a 4GB MicroSDHC I saw at target today for $9!).

 

 

 

 

 

Then again the nano line is really overpriced. I can understand the higher price on the 120GB classic, but the nanos are only like 4GB-8GB...

[Bauke]

Most clones are Chinese, have more features than the original iPod, but usually lacks quality. There are some exceptions, but these are the general rules.

 

 

 

Personally, I wouldn't get a clone. Nor an iPod btw.

[stevepole]

If you going to buy an iPod buy the real thing. Your just asking for trouble down the road either it be the device itself or friends giving you a hard for buying a fake. Fakes are never the way to go imo.

[Laura]

Why bother? If you don't want to get an iPod, there are plenty of other good and somewhat cheaper players available. Getting a clone is just asking for trouble imo.

Yup.

 

 

 

If you want an iPod, buy an iPod. If you want a cheaper MP3 player buy from someone else, as Nadril suggested.

[abbydog95]

Fakes = Trouble

 

Reals = Good :thumbup:

 

On a budget/ want a cheaper one? Go to best buy/other electronic device store and get a non branded one for cheap (meant unlike Ipods your not just paying for the brand.

[Sbrideau]

I'd get neither. Ipods are just a waste of money, get something cheaper, and that has more quality.

[abbydog95]

I'd get neither. Ipods are just a waste of money, get something cheaper, and that has more quality.

 

Ipods are great quality, you cant beat that, but there a bit pricey.

[Ouchy]

In general, the quality of it will be significantly less, and chances are the software won't be iTunes. If you have already bought it, try and get your money back/cancel your order, if you haven't, buy one second hand, or another MP3 player.

[Sbrideau]

I find that despite not having much luxury, my $60 Mp3 has more quality than my friend's Ipod. Especially the sound, much better quality on mine.

[Ouchy]

I find that despite not having much luxury, my $60 Mp3 has more quality than my friend's Ipod. Especially the sound, much better quality on mine.

 

Are you both using stock head phones, or the same ones for each?

[JoeDaStudd]

I was looking at iPods and similar devices and after buying a few clone like devices and an iPhone (worked out I paid about £30 more to go from a touch to a phone), and nothing works quite the same.

 

 

 

If you have the cash get the real thing, if not either save up or make do with a standard mp3/mp4 player.

[Sbrideau]

I find that despite not having much luxury, my $60 Mp3 has more quality than my friend's Ipod. Especially the sound, much better quality on mine.

 

Are you both using stock head phones, or the same ones for each?

 

 

 

We used stock, but also used the FM transmiter I have in the car to listen to music from my mp3.

[Laura]

I find that despite not having much luxury, my $60 Mp3 has more quality than my friend's Ipod. Especially the sound, much better quality on mine.

I'm not sure I understand. An MP3 is an MP3. There is little change between them. Many places, including iTunes, stock music at 256kbps. The only thing that will change the quality of the sound you here, then, are the headphones though which you listen.

[Bauke]

I find that despite not having much luxury, my $60 Mp3 has more quality than my friend's Ipod. Especially the sound, much better quality on mine.

I'm not sure I understand. An MP3 is an MP3. There is little change between them. Many places, including iTunes, stock music at 256kbps. The only thing that will change the quality of the sound you here, then, are the headphones though which you listen.

 

The mp3-player you use for listening also affects quality. And the iPod can't match the top players, like Cowon or iriver. The iPod is really a mediocre music player. And it lacks audio customizing options. It doesn't even have a custom equalizer. And the presets are rubbish.

 

 

 

If you want quality in music, don't buy an iPod. Get a Cowon player with FLAC-support, and be amazed.

[stevepole]

If you want quality in music, don't buy an iPod. Get a Cowon player with FLAC-support, and be amazed.

 

 

 

Do you import all your music as FLAC? Because when your importing all your music as FLAC instead of your typical MP3 music file your already getting much greater quality because FLAC is lossless meaning you don't loss any quality and an MP3 is lossy meaning when your importing that some of the audio file is lost and you loss quality.

[Bauke]

If you want quality in music, don't buy an iPod. Get a Cowon player with FLAC-support, and be amazed.

 

 

 

Do you import all your music as FLAC? Because when your importing all your music as FLAC instead of your typical MP3 music file your already getting much greater quality because FLAC is lossless meaning you don't loss any quality and an MP3 is lossy meaning when your importing that some of the audio file is lost and you loss quality.

 

Importing? I drag and drop. That's the way to go. I'm not dealing with sluggish programs to fill my player with music. And, ofcourse, I know what the difference between a FLAC file and an MP3 file is....

 

 

 

And honestly, I don't see what the world sees in MP3. The world would be a better place if everyone used Ogg Vorbis and FLAC :P

[abbydog95]

If you want quality in music, don't buy an iPod. Get a Cowon player with FLAC-support, and be amazed.

 

 

 

Do you import all your music as FLAC? Because when your importing all your music as FLAC instead of your typical MP3 music file your already getting much greater quality because FLAC is lossless meaning you don't loss any quality and an MP3 is lossy meaning when your importing that some of the audio file is lost and you loss quality.

 

Importing? I drag and drop. That's the way to go. I'm not dealing with sluggish programs to fill my player with music. And, ofcourse, I know what the difference between a FLAC file and an MP3 file is....

 

 

 

And honestly, I don't see what the world sees in MP3. The world would be a better place if everyone used Ogg Vorbis and FLAC :P

 

Are FLAC bigger than mp3's (file size)

[stevepole]

If you want quality in music, don't buy an iPod. Get a Cowon player with FLAC-support, and be amazed.

 

 

 

Do you import all your music as FLAC? Because when your importing all your music as FLAC instead of your typical MP3 music file your already getting much greater quality because FLAC is lossless meaning you don't loss any quality and an MP3 is lossy meaning when your importing that some of the audio file is lost and you loss quality.

 

Importing? I drag and drop. That's the way to go. I'm not dealing with sluggish programs to fill my player with music. And, ofcourse, I know what the difference between a FLAC file and an MP3 file is....

 

 

 

And honestly, I don't see what the world sees in MP3. The world would be a better place if everyone used Ogg Vorbis and FLAC :P

 

 

 

I explained it for those who don't know. But the point I was going to get at was if your using FLAC over MP3 it doesn't matter what music player your using because it is the audio file type that you choice to use that makes your music sound better not the choice of player like Laura0077 said.

 

 

 

If you want quality in music, don't buy an iPod. Get a Cowon player with FLAC-support, and be amazed.

 

 

 

Do you import all your music as FLAC? Because when your importing all your music as FLAC instead of your typical MP3 music file your already getting much greater quality because FLAC is lossless meaning you don't loss any quality and an MP3 is lossy meaning when your importing that some of the audio file is lost and you loss quality.

 

Importing? I drag and drop. That's the way to go. I'm not dealing with sluggish programs to fill my player with music. And, ofcourse, I know what the difference between a FLAC file and an MP3 file is....

 

 

 

And honestly, I don't see what the world sees in MP3. The world would be a better place if everyone used Ogg Vorbis and FLAC :P

 

Are FLAC bigger than mp3's (file size)

 

 

 

I've never used FLAC but if they are like any other lossless file type they are MUCH larger.

[Hobgoblinpie]

I've never used FLAC but if they are like any other lossless file type they are MUCH larger.

 

 

 

I use FLAC on my phone for OGGplay (symbian free app). At compression level 8 (max), the files are about 26mb. The only lossless music format to beat that is Monkey Audio (.ape).

 

 

 

This may be of some use if the chart isn't greek to you. http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php ... comparison

 

 

 

or, http://www.bobulous.org.uk/misc/audioFormats.html

[InkofDeath]

Lol, Taiwanese, Chinese, and Dubai clones. Fun.

 

 

 

Though you probably aren't going to notice the blackened paint, the warped screen, the slower than dial-up performance, the 30 minute battery life, and the fact that you'll want to put a glove on to hold the darn device, all from one tiny thing, heat. Yea, this thing here will kill your performance, corrupt the storage device, ruin the screen, and tons of damage that is miscellaneous. Then again I'd stop t the 30 minute battery leave due to poor power consumption due to heat problems.

 

 

 

Yea, good luck have fun.

[Bauke]

 

I explained it for those who don't know. But the point I was going to get at was if your using FLAC over MP3 it doesn't matter what music player your using because it is the audio file type that you choice to use that makes your music sound better not the choice of player like Laura0077 said.

 

 

 

 

That's not true. Different players use different audio chips, and using the same (good quality) ear buds, differences can certainly be observed between them. I always find that the iPod lacks dynamics. It sounds quite flat. Compare it with a Cowon iAudio D2, for example. A much more clear bass sound and the high tones are much more defined.

[Laura]

Quality, as you state, is almost always observed from the player's audio output. Because it is possible to amplify these signals though both software and hardware, there is little need to express definitive quality from any single player. It can then be concluded that external means (headphones, speakers, etc) determine a larger position of the quality experienced. In addition, it's almost meaningless to argue player quality in terms of MP3 files because MP3 files aren't a lossless format to begin with, favoring data consumption instead. Any other format beside MP3 should not be recommended for the average user, as MP3 files have dominated the music industry for years now.

 

 

 

OP, a cheap MP3 player from someone like SanDisk would suit you well (although that Cowon iAudio D2 looks really neat).