runescape_rocks Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Almost everytime I hear talk about browsers, it's also Fx. The reason is because it's faster or something that they themselves haven't even tested. There are people who have no clue about browsers. Look at this quote. it looks like they copy of firefox which one came first opera or firefox i think they really did copy firefox and i am nto sure if i should use it I left the name out because it would embarrass them terribly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezcake Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 I've never used Opera (I'm sure a lot of pepole haven't tried either), so I don't have an opinion this issue. :) ==================================Retired tip.it moderator.Teaching and inspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 I use both and I personally prefer Firefox. Oper, I just use for IRC mecause mIRC keeps popping up IE with every link in it. :: Guess the Movie Contest Champion: pfilc23 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaN Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Im using mozzilla firefox Its better than IE but I havent tryed opera yet. ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwisatz Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I don't like Opera. It's just little things, like the fact that middle-clicking doesn't close tabs, and that it's slower. Firefox is just barebones, and that's usually how I run my computer. handed me TWO tissues to clear up. I was like "i'm going to need a few more paper towels than that luv" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runescape_rocks Posted November 3, 2005 Author Share Posted November 3, 2005 I think the reason why is that more people use Firefox so they don't know about Opera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I don't like Opera. It's just little things, like the fact that middle-clicking doesn't close tabs, and that it's slower. Firefox is just barebones, and that's usually how I run my computer. What version are you running? My middle mouse closes tabs and has been able to since early v7.x I believe. As for the initial quote, Opera has been around a long time. NN was still very widely used when Opera first came out :P I don't think the original Mozilla browser was even out then :-? And for anyone who says FF was the first browser to use tabs - THAT IS PURE BS. There was at least two preceeding FF to use Tabs. Opera and one I think a year before that. There might've been another but I'm not 100% sure. Wikipedia has an article on it but meh. Can look it up yourself. Personally I believe the only reason FF is so "omg it pwnz" is because of all the hype and word-of-mouth advertising and heaps of people putting down every single browser because they were band-wagon users. *shrug* Opera is good for some people and FF is good for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vape Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 The reason you hear so much about Firefox is because of the success of the Spreadfirefox campaign. Personally I only try to spread Firefox to IE users, opera users have already been saved :D There are also a lot of comptuer newbies advertising Firefox because spreadfirefox asks them to help, which can result in some incorrect information. Firefox and Opera are different, not better or worse. I prefer Firefox and like to enlighten others about it. Where the bloody hell are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 This is just what I think...probably rubbish Firefox has better marketting skills therefore it has more customers, and by customers I mean people who worship it. Due to the large amount of positive feedback that they receieve, they add on more rapidlly and more effectively. On the other hand, Opera has very poor marketting skills. I didn't even know that Opera existed before I visited this forum. I don't even know what there sign is. Who doesn't know the Fiery fox wrapped around the world thing as the Fire Fox sign? Nobody, that's who. The End. Also IE pwns them both or whatever you put is not a very good tab for a vote. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Actually, you should be saying the Mozilla have no marketing skils. Most of its advertising is done by the userbase. And another reason as to why FF spreads so easily is because of the large amount of people who get behind open-source projects. That and it comes preinstalled on almost all linux distro's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Opinion i guess. I have both Firefox and Opera on my computer. Opera just has too many useless features for me, the menus are too big. I prefer a more "barebones" application. and of course for the geek in me its open source so i can play about with the code if i want. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosbringer Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Opera is a browser for me, it has unique functions, such as mouse gestures, something I don't believe Firefox has. Opera is less used, as up untill recently, if you wanted add free opera, you'd have to either get an illegal key, or pay for it. Recently it has gone add free, and shortly prior to that, I believe Opera had it's 10th Birthday. A large of the Tip.it Admin team use Opera, and many other of the staff, its the more professional of the 2 browsers I believe, atleast thats my take on it. If its good enough for us, then it has to be good enough for you :) ~Chaosbringer Edit: I've thought of another reason. People in these forums user Firefox to a degree more, beause they see crazy fanatical posters such as Cam (people I call CFFL Crazy Fanatical Firefox Lackeys) who are so utterly devoted to their browser, they assume it is so good, that some dude on the Internet its a wee bit crazy over it) So yeah, the End (Don't fall for Pro-Firefox propaganda from Cam, he's a loon!) No really, he is, I swear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vape Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Actually, you should be saying the Mozilla have no marketing skils. Most of its advertising is done by the userbase.Well... Mozilla is marketing its product by utilising it's proactive userbase. and it comes preinstalled on almost all linux distro's.And that makes a big difference, why? That's like a miniscule percentage of os's, and most linux users are techy enough to choose their own browser. Oh and chaos, I am not crazy :P *twitch* But there are Opera fans around here too... Militaris (dunno what happened to him, havent seen him for a while :-?) wyrm etc. Where the bloody hell are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 @Cameron: The line about FireFox on linux distros is more of a FireFix Vs Opera issue. Kind of just slipped in. If you started putting Opera out on Linux as the standard browser of choice you might see it get picked up more. @Hannibal: The Opera IRC client is rather weak. But it's as stripped back as any IRC client is going to get. And one las thing: How many FireFox Web Dev's actually have the Developer Toolbar installed and use more than half the features every single time they develop? I made an entire www application using with FireFox as my main testing browser just to check it. And I hardly touched it at all :-? And that project went for a good month almost aswell and I might've used it 5 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmw Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Ahh, the techie explanations ^^ :x I have a more...simple explanation, I guess. You had to pay what, $20USD for Opera just a few months ago? Firefox was always free, or at least was free way before Opera. It's like having free pizza from pizza pizza, or $20 pizza from pizza hut. It's both similar in taste, but one is free. Obvious choice, unless your a pizza hut fanatic :wink: People had Firefox before they had Opera, so that's what they'll stick with, as there's nothing wrong with Firefox. Just for the record, I'm using Opera, and have been using it for I don't know how long now. Quite a while, I must say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Firefox has tonnes of extensions... Just to name a few, Adblock, Tab mix and Tweak Network. Adblock, blocks ads, if you still see ads, you can always block it. Tab mix, makes your tab options more advanced. Tweak Network, now this one is extremely useful. Makes your Internet surfing alot faster. With a Firefox that has tonnes of extensions, I guess it's a clear winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Opera for me I quite like the fact that everyone bones Firefox, it just means I'm not part of the bandwagon. I tried Opera first and tried out Firefox and I saw no dramatic improvement to change. I'd figure a lot of people are the same, tried the first browser of the two and just stuck with it. Invariably, it was probably FF because they're word of mouf lackies. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augsback Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Didn't we just have a topic about this question allready? Seems like they keep coming up all the time. Now for me, I'm going with IE due to me using it for 7+ years and never had any major problems with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andyizcool Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I use FireFox personally just because I got use to it after Internet Explorer's crap on my PC that I had to remove daily. I would say choose whatever floats your boat though so I'm not forcing anyone into FireFox I just think it's good. The major point is FireFox and Opera don't use Active-X so we're saved. I read recently on some Internet news FireFox/Opera/Netscape/Safari are all better than Internet Explorer. The majority of people still have Internet Explorer because they're using Windows and believe that's the only way to surf the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Ahh, the techie explanations ^^ :x I have a more...simple explanation, I guess. You had to pay what, $20USD for Opera just a few months ago? Firefox was always free, or at least was free way before Opera. It's like having free pizza from pizza pizza, or $20 pizza from pizza hut. It's both similar in taste, but one is free. Obvious choice, unless your a pizza hut fanatic :wink: People had Firefox before they had Opera, so that's what they'll stick with, as there's nothing wrong with Firefox. Just for the record, I'm using Opera, and have been using it for I don't know how long now. Quite a while, I must say. Pizza Pizza > Pizza Hut. Just look at their Canadian Pizza. Pizza Hut's Canadian sucks. Again, I'll post that I use Firefox. Opera is nice and fancy and all but it has too many things I don't use. And like others, I've never heard of Opera 'til I lost interest in RS and started posting in OT and here. Wyrm is an Opera fanatic <_< :: Guess the Movie Contest Champion: pfilc23 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I think a really nifty feature of Opera is that it allows you to present yourself to websites as if you were IE. A lot of mainstream websites are hard to browse in with FF, Opera etc, but this allows you to 'pretend' that you're IE, while being secure and tabbed. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vape Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I think a really nifty feature of Opera is that it allows you to present yourself to websites as if you were IE. A lot of mainstream websites are hard to browse in with FF, Opera etc, but this allows you to 'pretend' that you're IE, while being secure and tabbed.Comes as a Firefox extension to those who want it ;) Where the bloody hell are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singblade Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Don't quote me on this, because I haven't checked, but I think Opera would have little to no extensions or themes because from what I've heard it isn't open source. Firefox, well err, yeah obviously has a ton of both extensions and themes. And it has a ton of customizations possible too :D. Some of my favorites are ad-blocking and pipelining. So I've chosen it instead. I only tried opera for maybe an hour then uninstalled, I dunno, just didn't like the look of it I guess. Maybe someday I'll give it a fair chance heheh. And to anyone who voted IE pwns both, just keep on using the browser from M$, see if I care. At least try Firefox or Opera, *places super-cute animal infront of you* Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammy316 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Glad I saw this, I use FF but been told to use Opera because it loads faster/easier to use, makes not odds to me, never thought about using Opera so I'm glad I've seen it. I'll install it and see what its like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 I think a really nifty feature of Opera is that it allows you to present yourself to websites as if you were IE. A lot of mainstream websites are hard to browse in with FF, Opera etc, but this allows you to 'pretend' that you're IE, while being secure and tabbed.Comes as a Firefox extension to those who want it ;) Nya ha! It's an extension! Not good enough to be as standard eh? Hehe, goodness me I'm not gonna become an Opera fanboy and start a browser war, they both are the best browsers out there. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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