Dagannoth King Guide (AOW discussion)

[teh_soldier]

nice guide, but i tend to just take nothing and run like ~~~~(unfortunately its never worked) so if anyone wants to go to waterbirth with a level 39 just pm teh soldier :D

[frogmite]

 

ud do very poorly to be honest, and good guide mate, a few things id change but otherwise very nice glad you didnt reveal my cannon spot :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL Froggy, your cannon spot isn't the only good place, and I already said if you take one it's good too keep one near the outer rim of the circle. That way you can safely reload and whatnot :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just remember, if you start firing it off and you're only one left, you can very quickly get all 3 kings after you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but my spot means i always get the magers kill ;)

[oddfaery2]

 

 

ud do very poorly to be honest, and good guide mate, a few things id change but otherwise very nice glad you didnt reveal my cannon spot :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LOL Froggy, your cannon spot isn't the only good place, and I already said if you take one it's good too keep one near the outer rim of the circle. That way you can safely reload and whatnot :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just remember, if you start firing it off and you're only one left, you can very quickly get all 3 kings after you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but my spot means i always get the magers kill ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It doesn't take too many tries to find where to put a cannon so that it hits prime twice on each pass :P

[oddfaery2]

Well, a lot of people have been asking if the dragon axe is worth having, so I thought I'd test it out. Here's what I came up with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I started with 73 WC and 77 Firemaking, a good ways to go for level in each

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skill: Woodcutting | Exp: 1,048,287 | Level: 73 | Exp 'til 74: 47,991

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skill: Firemaking | Exp: 1,582,673 | Level: 77 | Exp 'til 78: 46,527

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's what I had. Then I cut yews for 1 hour. When I was done:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skill: Woodcutting | Exp: 1,079,437 | Level: 73 | Exp 'til 74: 16,841

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skill: Firemaking | Exp: 1,618,718 | Level: 77 | Exp 'til 78: 10,482

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So in one hour cutting and burning yews I got 1 birds nest, 1 acorn seed, 31,150 WC experience and 36,045 Firemaking experience, a total increase of 67195 overall experience (not too shabby for 1 hour on yews i guess)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So then I went to cut willows and burn them for an hour (got quite difficult to stay awake at the end of this and I was much more inefficient with my time). Aside from cutting trees, I also killed 1 even chicken and 1 tree spirit. I ended with

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skill: Woodcutting | Exp: 1,108,335 | Level: 74 | Exp 'til 75: 102,086

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skill: Firemaking | Exp: 1,657,148 | Level: 78 | Exp 'til 79: 141,660

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This hour cutting willows I got 28,898 WC experience, and 38,429 Firemaking xp, a grand total of 67,327 overall experience.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Summary: Cutting yews was faster WC XP than cutting willows (at least while burning everything) but this has to be taken with the factor of spending time to kill the nature spirit and chicken while cutting willows.

[anteaterpwnsyou]

is a lvl 87 with:

 

 

 

73 str

 

 

 

72 att

 

 

 

66 def *lol im kinda pure for my lvl lol*

 

 

 

74 mage

 

 

 

74 hp

 

 

 

70 range be able to beat anyone of em once or twice with a few m8's? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[Myweponsg00d]

That woodcutting experiment was pretty much...well, useless, sorry. :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Only because you stopped to make fires.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

See...you can make the same NUMBER of fires per hour, no matter what log you use, assuming that you can strike the fire sucessfully every time. Since you got many more willows cut in the hour...you lit a larger ammount of fires, balancing out the FM xp...almost.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, since it takes the same ammount of time to light a yew log as it does a willow log...but much longer to CUT a yew log than it does a willow log, the cut-to-burn time ratio was disproportional, and you ended up spending more time burning willow logs than burning yew logs. In fact, you probably spent more than double the time. Therefore, the cut times were not even close to being equal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, lets do this analytically:

 

 

 

At yews, you got 36,045 burn xp. At 202.5 xp per log...this translates to 178 yew logs.

 

 

 

At willows, you got 38,429 burn xp. At 90 xp per log, this translates to 427 logs.

 

 

 

427/178=2.4

 

 

 

At one log per second, this would take 7 minutes and 7 seconds.

 

 

 

At this same rate (not an accurate rate btw) it would take 2 minutes and 58 seconds to burn all of the yew logs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, you spent more than twice the time(almost twice and a half the time) burning logs. Not really a fair comparison of woodcutting xp, if I may say so myself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By the way, great guide. :D

 

 

 

Don't really understand why anyone would kill the kings...but I guess its something to do.

[oddfaery2]

That woodcutting experiment was pretty much...well, useless, sorry. :?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Only because you stopped to make fires.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

See...you can make the same NUMBER of fires per hour, no matter what log you use, assuming that you can strike the fire sucessfully every time. Since you got many more willows cut in the hour...you lit a larger ammount of fires, balancing out the FM xp...almost.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, since it takes the same ammount of time to light a yew log as it does a willow log...but much longer to CUT a yew log than it does a willow log, the cut-to-burn time ratio was disproportional, and you ended up spending more time burning willow logs than burning yew logs. In fact, you probably spent more than double the time. Therefore, the cut times were not even close to being equal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, lets do this analytically:

 

 

 

At yews, you got 36,045 burn xp. At 202.5 xp per log...this translates to 178 yew logs.

 

 

 

At willows, you got 38,429 burn xp. At 90 xp per log, this translates to 427 logs.

 

 

 

427/178=2.4

 

 

 

At one log per second, this would take 7 minutes and 7 seconds.

 

 

 

At this same rate (not an accurate rate btw) it would take 2 minutes and 58 seconds to burn all of the yew logs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, you spent more than twice the time(almost twice and a half the time) burning logs. Not really a fair comparison of woodcutting xp, if I may say so myself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By the way, great guide. :D

 

 

 

Don't really understand why anyone would kill the kings...but I guess its something to do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's a fair comparison for those who burn while they cut. The main point is that even cutting yews I got similar (actually slightly greater in this case) experience in WC. It has always been said, "oh don't cut yews, willows are the fast xp"... Today, for me, this was not the case. Although, cutting willows was more profitable (3 seeds from yew vs 1 from yews)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You do make a good point though, and that's that if I was ONLY using logs for WC, then willows would be faster xp (assuming willows bank just as fast as yews... the place i cut them is nowhere near a bank so I don't have to fight for trees)

[oddfaery2]

Alrighty, now this time I did an hour of Maple trees as test. On top of cutting I got 1 nature spirit (which dropped an Irit seed) and 4 birds nest (2 orage tree seeds, a banana tree seed, and acorn).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I started with:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skill: Woodcutting | Exp: 1,122,510 | Level: 74 | Exp 'til 75: 87,911

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skill: Firemaking | Exp: 1,676,048 | Level: 78 | Exp 'til 79: 122,760

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After one hour I had

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skill: Woodcutting | Exp: 1,153,010 | Level: 74 | Exp 'til 75: 57,411

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Skill: Firemaking | Exp: 1,717,223 | Level: 78 | Exp 'til 79: 81,585

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total: I gained 30,500 WC experience and 41,175 Firemaking experience. This gives a grand total of 71,675 overall experience.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again, as was mentioned, the time I spent burning takes a lot of time out of WC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With the willows, I spent about 17 minutes 50 seconds burning the logs.

 

 

 

with the maples, I spent about 12 minutes 40 seconds burning the logs.

 

 

 

with the yews, I spent about 7 minutes and 25 seconds burning the logs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Point being, if you're purely WCing, these rates will change. Assuming the same bank time for each type and that cutting rates were same as I had, it would be roughly:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

35.5k xp per hour cutting yews

 

 

 

38.6k xp per hour cutting maples

 

 

 

41.1k xp per hour cutting willows

[Redizhot]

Well, I can do it with me and 2 friends (I'm 102 and they're 90 and 97) We can take down a group of three of them with ease, but a second one not so much. Upon hindsight, that's a little low for kills I guess, but seems worth it. Did it like 8-15 times, got a seercull bow, so we still profited, we split drops down to the coin. I think I like my queen better though, perhaps sometime when I can get a bigger group of better levels to get a lot more kills a run. By the way, from what I've seen as a mage, you can stay out of Prime and Supreme Range's pretty easy if you're careful enough. In any case, I might try it in a larger group sometime.

[limdogs]

How about holy wrench? I hear it can be replaced if u die for a price. It would give u a few extra prayer points.

[baconmaster]

Awesome guide, have to try it out sometime. Are any of the new lower leveled monsters good to train on? The 88s, bardurs, lobsters, and such?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-Drew K.

[bloodhound_sky]

geez myweponsg00d, u took all the fun out of his experiment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

gr8 guide odd.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:) sky :)

[APERSON]

Nice guide Oddfaery2. Unfortunately it seems I'm not quite big enough to play with the big boys yet but someday...

[Jaguar_Kings]

Awesome guide! But I don't think I should go yet...

 

 

 

Here's my stats, should I go?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- Stats --

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Attack: 71, almost 72 though.

 

 

 

Strength: 73

 

 

 

Defense: 70

 

 

 

Hits: 72 or 73, not sure

 

 

 

Prayer: 48

 

 

 

Ranged: 61

 

 

 

Magic: 62

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Should I go...?

[Creaphis]

How many people are usually at dag kings on world 2? I'm considering going to kill prime (since it's so hard to find mud staves on the market, message me if you're selling) and I don't know many people who'd be willing to go and try.

[oddfaery2]

How about holy wrench? I hear it can be replaced if u die for a price. It would give u a few extra prayer points.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I haven't tried it myself. I don't know what kind of a pain it is to get one back, and I would rather not lose it. Also, I tend to run out of food and prayer almost right at the same time as it is, and not sure out of only 5 pots if a wrench would save a whole 4-doser

[frogact]

 

How about holy wrench? I hear it can be replaced if u die for a price. It would give u a few extra prayer points.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I haven't tried it myself. I don't know what kind of a pain it is to get one back, and I would rather not lose it. Also, I tend to run out of food and prayer almost right at the same time as it is, and not sure out of only 5 pots if a wrench would save a whole 4-doser

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At the quests end you can get multiples by dropping and talking to the guy again. had 6, lost 2 at dag kings. It's not a pain to get back. kind of like losing anti-fire shield. :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Awesome guide! But I don't think I should go yet...

 

 

 

Here's my stats, should I go?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

-- Stats --

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Attack: 71, almost 72 though.

 

 

 

Strength: 73

 

 

 

Defense: 70

 

 

 

Hits: 72 or 73, not sure

 

 

 

Prayer: 48

 

 

 

Ranged: 61

 

 

 

Magic: 62

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Should I go...?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't, not yet. You might be ok if you go on world 2 in a large group.

[voodoo_josh]

Nice guide and drops.

[Stoop111]

Havn't gotten a chance to say what a nice guide

 

 

 

I could probably do it with the help of that guide, its that good

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now i just need to muster up my freinds maybe i will see you there bye bye

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nice drops btw

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck on staying out of the guild

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i think

[oddfaery2]

Havn't gotten a chance to say what a nice guide

 

 

 

I could probably do it with the help of that guide, its that good

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now i just need to muster up my freinds maybe i will see you there bye bye

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nice drops btw

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck on staying out of the guild

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i think

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Down with the guild! =]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just got thieving high enough to steal from the Lathas chests :) So i don't need your stinkin fishing guild! =]

[Stoop111]

Nice job with the thieving

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Steal some sharks for me!

[urza1488]

I just got thieving high enough to steal from the Lathas chests So i don't need your stinkin fishing guild! =]

Couldn't have said it any better myself :lol: although im not 72 yet :P

[oddfaery2]

Pictures added to 2nd page

[oddfaery2]

Safe Spot added on page 1

[Craven_Image]

Useful guide - stickied.