When do we get a REAL update?

[qeltar]

It's not as good as herb farming though <3

Not as good considering active time, no. But you can do it continuously so it's much better in elapsed time.

 

Back on topic, though, it's funny seeing all these people who clearly know NOTHING about software development make grand pronouncements about what they think Jagex should be able to do in a few hours.

[predator1030]

I think the content was better when there were behind the scenes. You could expect at least one big update along with a bunch of lesser ones every month, and you weren't disappointed/kept in the dark as you know exactly what was coming. I think there was at least 1 big update every month, don't quote me on that though as I only started playing again recently.

[Carl]

It's not as good as herb farming though <3

Not as good considering active time, no. But you can do it continuously so it's much better in elapsed time.

 

Back on topic, though, it's funny seeing all these people who clearly know NOTHING about software development make grand pronouncements about what they think Jagex should be able to do in a few hours.

 

no im pretty sure he realizes it takes a long time to do even simple updates, but frankly the updates suck most of the time.

 

To you, perhaps. But there's always many people there that will appreciate them. :thumbup:

[Myweponsg00d]

Fine, but even now, what is the definition of a high level? If you want Jagex to release updates for a certain group of people, in which you as a player always fall in, then what about everyone else? If, for example, one year ago, the category you fell into, was the "High level" people with around 1700 total, and by that standard, you assumed that to be high leveled, and thereby, Jagex should've been releasing updates for that category, and now, with the "High level" people with around 2100 total, and you fall within that category, they should release it for this group? I don't get it, why should Jagex not focus on the majority of the people, who still fall into the category of the "1700 total" (Making up a number here).

 

The point is that before, we were getting updates that were for "1700 total"

 

Now, we are getting updates for "1700 total"

 

Before, 1700 total was a minority. Not many players could use a good deal of stuff that was being released. Or, if they could, it would be quite difficult to master, and they would be encouraged to improve their skills.

 

Jagex used to release things that WERENT a majority kind of thing. Way back in RSC, hell. We never even got updates for low level people. All the new stuff being added was being added for people who beat all the previous quests and trained up their skills. (I am using "all" quite generously)

 

Now, most of the updates are still being aimed as level 60-70 being a "somewhat high" level still. This means they arent creating enough for the players who have been with the game for the longest.

 

Not only that, but they arent releasing things for lower players to look up to anymore and inspire them to work towards.

 

The best thing they have done lately was the herblore update. I feel that update gave people a huge incentive to want to push their herblore even further in order to have special things. The level range of 85-96 was also pretty on target. 85 is somewhat low in a skill these days, but its still plenty high. Then, on the top hand, to make overloads takes a huge dedication to herblore.

 

If we could get a similar update to the rest of the skills, that would be more than plenty to give runescape enough life to last a very long time. I know you are thinking "okay well if you are happy with the update, then simply wait till they show the same attitude with other skills!" I just think its been long enough of a wait. The herblore update was a long overdue ressurection of a skill that was pointless to train in general, and even more pointless once you were at the level to make brews. Other skills need love, and need it badly. I am just worried that its gonna take another 5 years before all the other skills get something as good as overloads. By then, we will need new stuff again.

 

EDIT: I just looked and saw that the number of maxed players is now 678. The 1000th ranked player is only 16 levels away from maxing. This is pretty ridiculous, IMO. When I first hit 85 slayer, I remember being ranked in about the top ~1k of slayers, and I was not even maxed combats, and I was not that hardcore of a player.

 

Soon enough, there will be 1k players with ALL 99s. And there is like nothing to even do with most 99 skills. Hell, most skills even fall off before 95 or even 90. The crowd of top-end players has grown tremendously. The volume of top-end updates has simply not.

[Myweponsg00d]

The year isn't even 1/4 of the way over. Stop whining.

 

So now we have to look at this game in the grand scheme of things and say "Well heres a good update, I cant wait for next year's good update!"

 

Almost 1/4 of the year has passed. 3 months. That is a long time. People usually dont even stick with playing the same game for many years. Why should we be happy with good updates as long as they come on a yearly basis?

 

Whats next? "Oh be quiet, theres not even 5 years since the last skill was added!"

 

I dont see why the "year" time period is significant.

[stonewall337]

Look at it like this. If Jagex came out with a new skill or slayer monster or new high level equipment it would be crazy. Lets look at it like this...

 

You expect high level content by the looks of it. Looking at your skills, you have 8 99's, 2 97's, 2096 total and a little over 235million total xp and are ranked 19,230. You are in my opinion a very high leveled player. Now with this is mind, CAN Jagex give awesome updates every week for players like you. I guess they could but what about the average player. On the high scores right now, the lowest level player has about 829 total and 5mill total xp. The 1,000,000th best player in runescape now has 1,143 total. If jagex was to make updates that you want, how would players that a WAY below you have fun at all?

 

Jagex can not forget about lower level players. If they did. Eventually they would run out of new content and give up calling jagex "A company that cares about it's upper level players or members only."

You must remember that they are millions of people playing who are A LOT lower level then you. And content should be spread out evenly through the levels. F2p got a new quest. Higher level slayers got new monsters to slay. New grand master quest, update to Barbarian Assault, and loads of other updates all throughout the range of levels.

 

You may ask, why is there less high level content?

Cause there are less high levels then low levels.

 

Im going to be bluntly honest...either stop complaing about jagexs updates and be thankful for what you have OR make a new account and enjoy all the "nooby" or "useless" updates with the rest of the lower levels.

 

Ehh, the average player doesn't keep his membership up all the time (all 12 months) even when not playing, and doesn't play RS as much as we do. Besides, then they have something to look forward to. I hate the lack of end game gear to aim for. Sure, I could save and get enough for an ely or divine, but then I gota jump through all the street price hoops. Hell, I'm thinking of buying a GS set because IDK what else to buy. When was the last REAL high level update? I'm talking about 90+ stats, and actually HARD. (Nomad wasn't hard at all)

[Carl]

 

 

Ehh, the average player doesn't keep his membership up all the time (all 12 months) even when not playing, and doesn't play RS as much as we do. Besides, then they have something to look forward to. I hate the lack of end game gear to aim for. Sure, I could save and get enough for an ely or divine, but then I gota jump through all the street price hoops. Hell, I'm thinking of buying a GS set because IDK what else to buy. When was the last REAL high level update? I'm talking about 90+ stats, and actually HARD. (Nomad wasn't hard at all)

 

The last real high-level update was 2-3 weeks ago when we saw a new impling that you could hunt at level 91, I think? And before that, hmm, we had Agility and hmm..Prayer...Magic, do you see where I'm going? If you actually look back at the past few months you'll realise that Jagex are trying to cater for everyone, they're just focusing their time on one group for a month or two then heading to the next. Where are we now? Drifting, I say. High, mid and low-level content. I know I'd sure love to get 90 odd Hunter to be able to enjoy that, recent, high-level content.

[stonewall337]

 

 

Ehh, the average player doesn't keep his membership up all the time (all 12 months) even when not playing, and doesn't play RS as much as we do. Besides, then they have something to look forward to. I hate the lack of end game gear to aim for. Sure, I could save and get enough for an ely or divine, but then I gota jump through all the street price hoops. Hell, I'm thinking of buying a GS set because IDK what else to buy. When was the last REAL high level update? I'm talking about 90+ stats, and actually HARD. (Nomad wasn't hard at all)

 

The last real high-level update was 2-3 weeks ago when we saw a new impling that you could hunt at level 91, I think? And before that, hmm, we had Agility and hmm..Prayer...Magic, do you see where I'm going? If you actually look back at the past few months you'll realise that Jagex are trying to cater for everyone, they're just focusing their time on one group for a month or two then heading to the next. Where are we now? Drifting, I say. High, mid and low-level content. I know I'd sure love to get 90 odd Hunter to be able to enjoy that, recent, high-level content.

 

Oh, a new impling with USELESS loot? That high level? Not what I'm talking about. mage and prayer were overdue anyways, and were a while ago.

[Me_Hate_Libs]

My personal favorite is when fixing things is now considered a good update, like the multiple runes for Deaths/Bloods/Laws, etc. :roll:

[Myweponsg00d]

 

 

Ehh, the average player doesn't keep his membership up all the time (all 12 months) even when not playing, and doesn't play RS as much as we do. Besides, then they have something to look forward to. I hate the lack of end game gear to aim for. Sure, I could save and get enough for an ely or divine, but then I gota jump through all the street price hoops. Hell, I'm thinking of buying a GS set because IDK what else to buy. When was the last REAL high level update? I'm talking about 90+ stats, and actually HARD. (Nomad wasn't hard at all)

 

The last real high-level update was 2-3 weeks ago when we saw a new impling that you could hunt at level 91, I think? And before that, hmm, we had Agility and hmm..Prayer...Magic, do you see where I'm going? If you actually look back at the past few months you'll realise that Jagex are trying to cater for everyone, they're just focusing their time on one group for a month or two then heading to the next. Where are we now? Drifting, I say. High, mid and low-level content. I know I'd sure love to get 90 odd Hunter to be able to enjoy that, recent, high-level content.

 

I agree with this. Theres no doubt that they are TRYING to gear some updates to higher levels. I don't disagree with that. Its just that, for awhile, I think we fell behind. The updates we've been getting have been great, but we needed them a year or two ago. Now we just need a couple more things that are like 95+ in skill level. Just to keep some players interested, IMO. We are catching up quickly, I wont deny that. If Jagex continues releasing high level stuff at their current pace, I think RS could see a revival. But, if they wanted that catch-up to happen within a year, I just think they need to pick up the pace.

[Lep]

To the people saying that if we don't like the updates, then we should cancel our membership because we are a minority and more will appreciate the updates without whining - why has the rsof rants section started to rub off into recent updates with insulting JaGeX and their updates? Almost every single post in both forums is about their terrible updates and spam is often found in the recent update section now like it's been in the rant section. Not as much people like these updates as you think, they just do them or they don't even know about them. Once in a while the rare high level will post to try and bask in self-righteousness by complimenting an update... too bad every post that follows is disagreeing with the topic and bad talking JaGeX and their updates.

 

Someone posted a few pages back about my status and how I'm very high leveled and around the 19,000 mark in highscores. If a company isn't willing to please over 19,000 people then that company must get one hell of a bad rep. Surprise! RuneScape may be huge, but it has one of the worst reps of all mmorpg's. :thumbdown:

[SirIzenhime]

I think it's a real shame people in this game just can't be happy that we actually get updates almost weekly.

 

I would love to see you last in other MMOs out there, where you pay double or triple to play, and not get an update for months, even years sometimes...updates take time to make, they can't just spit high level updates to us every month.

[Lep]

I think it's a real shame people in this game just can't be happy that we actually get updates almost weekly.

 

I would love to see you last in other MMOs out there, where you pay double or triple to play, and not get an update for months, even years sometimes...updates take time to make, they can't just spit high level updates to us every month.

 

There was a time you had to pay but now you don't have to pay for it; but I've been playing a game called Priston Tale just as long as I have RuneScape. (7-8 Years) It's first update in pretty much 6 years just came and the only thing it really changed was how much you can carry. However, ontop of that, they released something very high leveled which no one has even got close to getting yet in those 8 years. Now that's what I call high level. :thumbup: This game has died and resurrected, switched companies, almost shut down and has hundreds of private servers, and after all that, lots of people are still playing it. If RuneScape ever went through what they did, I'm certain it'd close down. This one is still going though and even releasing high level content no one is close to yet. Now that's what I call dedication. JaGeX could learn a thing or two from them. JaGeX simply give us a level 90 imp with clothes and a few simpletons are frolicking and skipping around in their royal outfits. :mellow:

[Mirror]

Remember guys, most of you have been talking in subjective terms, not objective. Meaning that what one says is how one perceives it. There is no point in 'debating' back and forth over something that is subjective.

 

Now what I would like to add is that I am supportive of Jagex with how they have done their game. I mean, I haven't enjoyed every update, heck, I've openly disagreed on some of the aspects in changing the game. But you know what, in the end, I am still supportive of them. They have given me what used to be countless hours of entertainment (now I can count them with my adventurer's log :P) through the years. I don't regret a single cent I have paid to play the extra content.

 

Say what you want to say, but please, most of you are talking in subjective terms, so don't say something as an objective fact unless you know it to be true.

[Lemeja]

The year isn't even 1/4 of the way over. Stop whining.

 

So now we have to look at this game in the grand scheme of things and say "Well heres a good update, I cant wait for next year's good update!"

 

Almost 1/4 of the year has passed. 3 months. That is a long time. People usually dont even stick with playing the same game for many years. Why should we be happy with good updates as long as they come on a yearly basis?

 

Whats next? "Oh be quiet, theres not even 5 years since the last skill was added!"

 

I dont see why the "year" time period is significant.

 

I was referring to the people saying the "Year of Awesomeness" isn't living up to their expectations. They didn't say three months of awesomeness. Some people seem to forget that the last high level update they released was the most complained about update in a very long time (Strykewyrms and their fire cape requirement).

[Carl]

 

I agree with this. Theres no doubt that they are TRYING to gear some updates to higher levels. I don't disagree with that. Its just that, for awhile, I think we fell behind. The updates we've been getting have been great, but we needed them a year or two ago. Now we just need a couple more things that are like 95+ in skill level. Just to keep some players interested, IMO. We are catching up quickly, I wont deny that. If Jagex continues releasing high level stuff at their current pace, I think RS could see a revival. But, if they wanted that catch-up to happen within a year, I just think they need to pick up the pace.

 

Chances are what content they're releasing now wasn't in their heads a year or two ago. And, if you don't have interest right now releasing something new to do in a skill or two that has a 95+ requirement isn't going to draw you back to the game. And, if it does that won't be long lived as you'll get bored of that pretty fast, too. Also, revival? I didn't know it was in any sort of critical state. :rolleyes:

 

 

Someone posted a few pages back about my status and how I'm very high leveled and around the 19,000 mark in highscores. If a company isn't willing to please over 19,000 people then that company must get one hell of a bad rep. Surprise! RuneScape may be huge, but it has one of the worst reps of all mmorpg's. :thumbdown:

 

I must correct, if a company isn't willing to please 1 person out of over 19,000. Remember, those other 18,999 people may not have the same mindset and ideas as you. ;)

[Robert_R]

I think it's a real shame people in this game just can't be happy that we actually get updates almost weekly.

 

I would love to see you last in other MMOs out there, where you pay double or triple to play, and not get an update for months, even years sometimes...updates take time to make, they can't just spit high level updates to us every month.

 

There was a time you had to pay but now you don't have to pay for it; but I've been playing a game called Priston Tale just as long as I have RuneScape. (7-8 Years) It's first update in pretty much 6 years just came and the only thing it really changed was how much you can carry. However, ontop of that, they released something very high leveled which no one has even got close to getting yet in those 8 years. Now that's what I call high level. :thumbup: This game has died and resurrected, switched companies, almost shut down and has hundreds of private servers, and after all that, lots of people are still playing it. If RuneScape ever went through what they did, I'm certain it'd close down. This one is still going though and even releasing high level content no one is close to yet. Now that's what I call dedication. JaGeX could learn a thing or two from them. JaGeX simply give us a level 90 imp with clothes and a few simpletons are frolicking and skipping around in their royal outfits. :mellow:

I must have a different definition of dedication then you because to me one update in 6 years doesn't sound like much dedication regardless of how high level or hard to get it is.

 

But anyway back on topic, maybe if jagex started releasing high level content/hard content that actually required the level or quest completed to use the reward then maybe updates might not seem as bad. I'm not really talking about any updates we've had recently but just in general most things are able to be used without the level you need to get them. The imps might not have been as dumb and worthless if you needed the hunter level to wear the royal clothing so it would at least give someone a reason to train the skill instead of a reason to go make a couple mil for the items. I'm starting to think jagex is trying to hard to please the whiners who complain if they can't use something high leveled instead of trying to make a high level thing that actually requires a high level(other then extremes I can't really think of anything else).

 

Also going way back I've always thought dragon claws and dragon platebody should have while guthix sleeps completed as a requirement to wield, almost every other dragon item has a similar requirement why not them?

[Golvellius]

New skill, meh.

Take back hunting, farming ,and summoning first and make them into something nice.

I swear I get more use out of firemaking than them lol.

It's always amusing how the people who whine the most about wanting new content are incapable of understanding and using the content they already have.

 

Those are three of the best skills in the game. Summoning is by far the most versatile, Hunter and Farming are superb money skills.

 

Learn how to use the gear shifter and the steering wheel before you bug the car company for more bells and whistles. And if all you want is a new dungeon with "uber st00f" drops released every month, you're playing the wrong game.

 

Summoning is the worst skill in runescape.

I pull out my yak to carry crap, whoppeedeedoo.

Could have had pouches like WOW.

Speaking of WOW the summons in that game can fight and our tactical part of combat for those classes.

My iron titan can't hit the side of a barn let alone draw the attention of monsters to tank them for more than 1 round at most.

I hit monster with whip. I hit monster again with whip. Iron flatulence takes its turns and blows gas for a miss. I hit monster with whip again. I hit monster a 4th time and its usually dead. Iron flatulence huffs and puffs while the monster lays dying and contributes an amazing 0 to the fight.

Joke please... oh and dont tell me the steel one is any better lol, I know 99 is nothing but a cape like slayer.

 

Farming makes no money and seeds cost a fortune.

Only people rewarded by it are those who get seeds on monster drops, but then you have to wonder "hey that aint farming... or is it?". :rolleyes:

Oh but wait the good news is everything is on a timer and you can complete your farming in a half hour each day.

Of course, thats the most the game will let you play farming but you know hey, its a diversion and distraction type skill...

 

Hunter is disappointing because you can do chompy/jumbly hunting and have a better time hunting than actually doing the hunter skill lol.

But hey some are entertained by watching a pixel turn on and off so whatever get 200mil in the skill...

Also, hunter doesn't make more money than runecrafting unless you break all the clocks in your house and never turn runescape off.

Or more likely that you don't know how to runecraft or your in that level 1-40 range that Jagex prefers.

[qeltar]

trembake, your last reply is a perfect illustration of what I said before: you are complaining that Jagex should give you more updates, but you have NO idea how to even make good use of what you have.

 

I could go through your post and pick it apart line by line, but I can't be bothered. I've encountered people like you many times before, in RS and in real life, and what it always comes down to is "don't confuse me with facts, I've made up my mind".

 

I can make 1.5 million gp an hour with Hunter... while also getting 3 or 4 times the XP per hour I can get runecrafting. But hey, you want to consider the skill useless, be my guess.

 

Can you make 250,000 gp per hour your first day in RS by Runecrafting? You can with Hunter.

 

The pack yak not only saves and makes tons of money, it enables whole new modes of gameplay that the uncurious never consider. You've probably never even fully explored its use. You also likely have no idea what an iron titan can do to waterfiends in the Chaos Tunnels, or how much money you can make just having a magpie follow you around, or how much other familiars can do for you.

 

You're ignorant. That can be cured, but only if you want to cure it. Doesn't sound like you do, but that's YOUR problem, not anything that's wrong with Jagex or the game.

[Robert_R]

Ya you're right farming makes no money at all

And summoning is definitely useless

And hunter hardly makes any money

/sarcasm :rolleyes:

 

I've made about 30m+ farming in a week with only probably like 4 hours total time doing something.

Without summoning slayer tasks either took longer or required banking same with bosses. I find it hard to believe that someone can say a pak yak or unicorn would be useless. But then again a lot of people just say "but WOW has something similar that we could have had"....... Just go back to WOW if you love it so much.

It's called hunt something other then chinchompas like maybe grenwalls, everyone always just thinks of the most commonly used method as the way to determine if the skill makes a decent amount of money or not.

 

Also can't believe I actually just sided with qeltar on something.

[Mecakoto]

New skill, meh.

Take back hunting, farming ,and summoning first and make them into something nice.

I swear I get more use out of firemaking than them lol.

It's always amusing how the people who whine the most about wanting new content are incapable of understanding and using the content they already have.

 

Those are three of the best skills in the game. Summoning is by far the most versatile, Hunter and Farming are superb money skills.

 

Learn how to use the gear shifter and the steering wheel before you bug the car company for more bells and whistles. And if all you want is a new dungeon with "uber st00f" drops released every month, you're playing the wrong game.

 

Summoning is the worst skill in runescape.

I pull out my yak to carry crap, whoppeedeedoo.

Could have had pouches like WOW.

Speaking of WOW the summons in that game can fight and our tactical part of combat for those classes.

My iron titan can't hit the side of a barn let alone draw the attention of monsters to tank them for more than 1 round at most.

I hit monster with whip. I hit monster again with whip. Iron flatulence takes its turns and blows gas for a miss. I hit monster with whip again. I hit monster a 4th time and its usually dead. Iron flatulence huffs and puffs while the monster lays dying and contributes an amazing 0 to the fight.

Joke please... oh and dont tell me the steel one is any better lol, I know 99 is nothing but a cape like slayer.

 

Farming makes no money and seeds cost a fortune.

Only people rewarded by it are those who get seeds on monster drops, but then you have to wonder "hey that aint farming... or is it?". :rolleyes:

Oh but wait the good news is everything is on a timer and you can complete your farming in a half hour each day.

Of course, thats the most the game will let you play farming but you know hey, its a diversion and distraction type skill...

 

Hunter is disappointing because you can do chompy/jumbly hunting and have a better time hunting than actually doing the hunter skill lol.

But hey some are entertained by watching a pixel turn on and off so whatever get 200mil in the skill...

Also, hunter doesn't make more money than runecrafting unless you break all the clocks in your house and never turn runescape off.

Or more likely that you don't know how to runecraft or your in that level 1-40 range that Jagex prefers.

 

You are the biggest moron I've ever seen make a post on the Internet about a given subject. That is actually saying something since I was on "Teh Vestibule" from '03-'06. If you're a troll, which you most likely are, consider yourself fed.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

The premise of the thread, to say the least, is pretty...depressing. I'm rather stunned at some reactions.

 

I just don't see why you're complaining so hard. It's March (almost April) for God's sake. There's no reason to complain about the entire year if we're not even a third the way through it.

 

It's all subjective, of course. Our opinions won't overlap, and to be honest, trying to convince you that the game is on the right track as opposed to not isn't really worth the effort. Give it some time, there'll be something new to complain about.

[paul191600]

The updates have been a little...lacking. Hopefully we have some big update that is coming soon. I think that The Blood Pact catacombs could have had some potential for high level players. They could have added some hidden chamber, with higher level versions of the new monsters and possibly a hard boss monster that upgrades the mask.

[Speedyshel]

This is typical of anything in life. Regardless of what happens, there's always going to be some reason why it isn't good enough. If every single update were a new boss monster or a new slayer monster, there'd be others complaining. My opinion on the matter is that Jagex has been doing a fine job of balancing updates for higher levels (Kuradal, Strykewyrms, Nomad's Requiem, Kingly and Zombie implings, etc) with the lower level content. I don't agree with the idea that the updates are only for the lower levels at all, but I do understand that there's always going to individuals that have to complain regardless.

[Robtokill]

Sorry your money is going into remaking a new MMO that they just recently admitted to wasting 10 million ~ pounds on.

 

Hurts, don't it?