Omar Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Not a fan of either shoe. If you want a lace-up, get a pair of bucks, the ones right up there look like some cheapo thing. The only good loafer in my opinion is a weejun style; you can get both from G.H.Bass for a reasonable price. If those are too preppy for you, stick with simple casual shoes.Seersucker on what? It's nice on a shirt, but if you wear a seersucker jacket it won't work, especially if you don't have plain enough jeans. Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Seersucker suits are quite proper. Well, for us Suth'n Gen'l'men. Anywhere else it's a bit of a joke. Those shoes are decent. I don't care about the loafers, but the oxfords are pretty cool. Perforated. Neat. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 They're derby shoes. These are oxfords. http://www.asos.com/Asos-Collection/Asos-Oxford-Clean-Point-Shoes/Prod/pgeproduct.aspx?iid=874794 Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I can't tell the difference once you go too far beyond oxford (of which I only know the three major kinds), loafer, and the other majors. Boots. Boat shoes, sandals. Eh. I wish I knew how long that Express sale was. I really want to pick up some shirts, and possibly some pants. Gilt has been useless lately. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiny Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I bought the top pair, and got a pair of brown leather loafers with no detailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 And you plan to wear them with what, shiny? Yes and no. The guy I'm talking about wouldn't wear the shoes you bought, or Threadless tees. He'd either get clean point three eyelet derbies, or another very minimalistic dress shoe, but no extended toe loafers. And either a plain tee or one with a distressed graphic on it.That's still leagues better than most of what I see. At least 80% of teenagers in America wear jeans, a t shirt, and a sweatshirt when it's cold. That or wearing everything from Abercrombie/Hollister/Aeropostale.@rangeor (continued from the clique thread): I'd rather someone who dresses well all the time, and for the occasion, than someone who pretty much copies their looks from lookbook and tries to dress "classy". Also, the line, "There's nothing wrong with being the best dressed person in a room" is a little off. If everyone is chilling at the bar in t-shirts and jeans and you're there with a khaki suit, spread collar, and an ascot you don't look like the best dressed person in the room: you look like the biggest douche peacocking about your friends. Most women will steer away from you like you steer away from the girl who poops her pants when she's drunk, especially if you're wearing an ascot. Unless you're in Greenwich, ascots are for imaginary people. Classy is about understanding what the situation calls for, not being the best dressed all the time. Now, you may think that a blog called guidetobadtaste can only be written by a [bleep], and if you do, I agree, but that doesn't make what he's saying false. You can dress in a way that's out of the ordinary without buying a single piece of tailoring. No offense, just my opinion. Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiny Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Loafers with dark jeans, brown belt, and a button up shirt. Oxfords/Derby Shoes for school, and slightly more formal situations. Also, I have a $50 voucher for this store - http://www.poiseofdenmark.com/shop.aspx?piece=shirt, want to help pick me out a nice shirt. Only prerequisite, no pink and no cuff links. Actually, it can be pink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 No French cuffs? Are you crazy? catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiny Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I don't have any cuff links :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Easily fixable. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 No french cuffs if this shirt isn't for formal occasions. You're 15/16, guys. Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatAZNKid Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 If Im going outside to look classy, but not formal, I usually wear my pair of my slim fit True Religion jeans (its my only pair lol), my white slip on vans, a black short sleeve shirt, and an unbuttoned suit vest. I also wear my Kenneth Cole unlisted watch. :P I'm only 14 tho so I dont know much about classyness.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 No french cuffs if this shirt isn't for formal occasions. You're 15/16, guys. Silly rule. Looking good is ageless. You should dress for the occasion, but I feel that if the occasion involves a nice shirt, adding french cuffs might as well be necessary. Particularly if you aren't wearing a tie or anything else that you can use to your advantage. I only own one french cuff shirt, unfortunately, and it isn't close to my favorite. So hard to find them, until I make my own with Custom Label or something. Oh oh oh! If anyone reading this is looking for a good suit that will last them a while, Primer Magazine and Indochino custom suiting are offering a coupon! 10% off any of their suits (which, if it isn't perfectly tailored when received, they'll pay for you to take it to your own tailor - I want the light gray but all my funds are tied up for college, gas, and insurance), a free dress shirt of theirs, and free shipping. Far Most of their prices are just a wee bit more than a department store. Not an advertisement, just thought you oughtta know. Best thing I've learned from Primer, to be honest. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 No french cuffs if this shirt isn't for formal occasions. You're 15/16, guys. Silly rule. Looking good is ageless. You should dress for the occasion, but I feel that if the occasion involves a nice shirt, adding french cuffs might as well be necessary. Particularly if you aren't wearing a tie or anything else that you can use to your advantage. I only own one french cuff shirt, unfortunately, and it isn't close to my favorite. So hard to find them, until I make my own with Custom Label or something. Oh oh oh! If anyone reading this is looking for a good suit that will last them a while, Primer Magazine and Indochino custom suiting are offering a coupon! 10% off any of their suits (which, if it isn't perfectly tailored when received, they'll pay for you to take it to your own tailor - I want the light gray but all my funds are tied up for college, gas, and insurance), a free dress shirt of theirs, and free shipping. Far Most of their prices are just a wee bit more than a department store. Not an advertisement, just thought you oughtta know. Best thing I've learned from Primer, to be honest.Yeah, if I see anyone under 25 wearing a shirt with French cuffs to a baseball game...poser, basically. Looking good is just as much about dressing appropriately for the situation as anything else. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 That makes no sense, Lent. The reason why you can't find many shirts with french cuffs that aren't meant to be worn formally is because they're formal. Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Now too much is considered only formalwear. I hate to reference Mad Men, but it comes in handy here - hardly any time ago, a man who had to wear a shirt and/or suit to work would have French cuffs and cufflinks. Besides, just because they may be formalwear now doesn't mean that they can't be worn casually. Ties? Blazers? Pants? If you're so black-and-white as to say you can only wear this at a certain time and location, at least if it isn't a full-on tuxedo or British morning dress, most everywhere in the world would be full of people in t-shirts and athletic shorts. Wait. Okay, bad example. But I hope you understand my point. Being overdressed isn't bad ... To a limit. A tuxedo in a bar is probably the limit, depending on how nice the place is. A suit on a camping trip, probably a bad idea. And cufflinks are fun. They are one of very few things men wear almost exclusively. If you want some that are casual, get some silk knots. Nobody will say you're overdressed if your sleeves are just held together by some fabric. Just a classier way to fasten them. Should the nicer shirts that have natural buttons of horn and bone be relegated only to formalwear? I just dislike that people feel some things can only be formal or fancy. Although I will say that if you're doing a lot of writing during the course of a day, cufflinks can definitely get in the way. But I prefer to roll my sleeves up when I'm writing anyway. A good medium ground is convertible shirts - either go button or cufflink. Not quite as good looking as a proper French cuff, but a find substitute that few people will notice the difference. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Now too much is considered only formalwear. I hate to reference Mad Men, but it comes in handy here - hardly any time ago, a man who had to wear a shirt and/or suit to work would have French cuffs and cufflinks. Besides, just because they may be formalwear now doesn't mean that they can't be worn casually. Ties? Blazers? Pants? If you're so black-and-white as to say you can only wear this at a certain time and location, at least if it isn't a full-on tuxedo or British morning dress, most everywhere in the world would be full of people in t-shirts and athletic shorts. Wait. Okay, bad example. But I hope you understand my point. Being overdressed isn't bad ... To a limit. A tuxedo in a bar is probably the limit, depending on how nice the place is. A suit on a camping trip, probably a bad idea. And cufflinks are fun. They are one of very few things men wear almost exclusively. If you want some that are casual, get some silk knots. Nobody will say you're overdressed if your sleeves are just held together by some fabric. Just a classier way to fasten them. Should the nicer shirts that have natural buttons of horn and bone be relegated only to formalwear? I just dislike that people feel some things can only be formal or fancy. Although I will say that if you're doing a lot of writing during the course of a day, cufflinks can definitely get in the way. But I prefer to roll my sleeves up when I'm writing anyway. A good medium ground is convertible shirts - either go button or cufflink. Not quite as good looking as a proper French cuff, but a find substitute that few people will notice the difference. If you have to wear dress pants, and a shirt and tie to work, or a suit, I agree 100% that french cuffs and cufflinks are the way to go. However, that doesn't mean they should be worn for any given occasion. Just like any good thing, too much of it dulls the effect. It's better to be overdressed than under dressed, yes...but it's better to be dressed correctly, period. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 A tuxedo in a bar is probably the limit, depending on how nice the place is.No, definitely not. If you wear a tux to work, you will look incongruous (ref: the Office). If you wear a tux to a bar, you will look even more incongruous. Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 A tuxedo in a bar is probably the limit, depending on how nice the place is.No, definitely not. If you wear a tux to work, you will look incongruous (ref: the Office). If you wear a tux to a bar, you will look even more incongruous.The limit you shouldn't reach, not the one you should try. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevepole Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Tux in a bar wouldn't fly to well unless it's a classier bar thats demo is someone between the ages of 30-45. Otherwise like Y_Guy said dress for the occasion. Which doesn't necessarily mean you can't dress up just make sure its appropriate for situation. Dress to impress but not to be remembered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkly Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 a nice pair of jeans, some leather shoes, and a clean uni-color american apparel top is the way to go. sometimes i doubt your commitment to sparkle motion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorcheddd Posted August 16, 2010 Author Share Posted August 16, 2010 Would you more classy gents post some pics of basic looks us noobs can go off of? Just for some general ideas and maybe stuff we don't know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeor Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Went to the Express Men store today to try on the 1MX Fitted shirts. Turns out the store is having the 40% off sale too, so I got two of them for $30 each :D Thanks for suggesting them a few months back Lent, these shirts are awesome. Best $30 I've spent on a piece of cotton in a while. My only complaint is that the medium fit perfectly, but I'm going to have to go with a large and get it tailored since it'll shrink no doubt; 97% cotton. Oh, and they wrinkle easily. Definitely not a shirt I'd wear without ironing first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenticular_J Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 They don't shrink at all, actually. The 3% spandex makes a big difference. Although they can get hot. The medium fits best on you? I wear a small. Although, to be fair, they border on too-small. catch it now so you can like it before it went so mainstream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangeor Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Yeah, I'm 5'10 at about 150-160 lbs so usually medium is either a good fit or a bit too small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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