Less military, more for education and healthcare, and more for developing alternative energy sources.

 

i guess i'm just a damn hippy.

That stuff always does it to me.

 

There are very valid reasons why many women get breast implants. They *should* be covered in most cases, and singling that out as some sort of example of horrible waste or corruption is ignorant nonsense. And what's worse, it spreads around the Internet from one person to another, with 99% of people not even bothering to find out if it is true.

 

I guarantee he didn't.

 

You misunderstood me.

 

I was joking that since women can get implants on the NHS that that is where I'd send all my money if I could choose. Ease up on your trigger finger, or at least be less of an [wagon].

I'm freaking out that noone else has said repaying the deficit. yes, you may not have been those spending the money, it's like inheriting a loan though: you get the house, but you have to continue paying the loan. the house is just about ready to be in an unending spiral towards reposession unless downpayments are made NOW.

 

Pssh. Debt-Schmebt.

 

The US could just conquer the nations that it owes money to. PUT MORE MONEY INTO THE MILITARY! HAIL THE GLORIOUS DAWN!

 

 

 

 

 

Just kidding, of course.

 

The deficit should be paid off, and I really like Lord Kalafei's idea.

 

Also, I agree with EarthySun. We should abolish giving government scholarships to minorities strictly because they are minorities. There are better things to fund.

It better not help illegals get phr33 st00f and it better not go to welfare people who spend the money on booze and crap that's not a necessity.

How do I want my tax dollars spent?

There's a problem with this to begin with: Tax and spend, tax and spend. Hands off my money, uncle sam.

 

First of all, I'd like to see the current tax code scrapped. So I'd spend my money on revising it. Make it very simple: Every dollar over the poverty line, you have to pay a flat tax on it. None of this "rich pay more, but give them loopholes". The less you tax the rich, the more they spend on goods and services, the more jobs they create. OR, the more they give to charities. Enough about my flat-tax rant.

 

Assume that is implemented, and I get to chose what to spend my money on.

1. Pay up all obligations. That means deficit, outstanding social security, and fix veterans affairs. Begin to rollback social security for current generations, as its bankrupt.

2. Work on infrastructure. Everyone benefits from roads, sidewalks, bridges.

3. Schools, Hospitals, Libraries, Fire Stations, Jails, Police Stations... public services that everyone benefits from.

4. Military. Carry a bigger stick than everyone else. However, cut out all the unnecessary pork spending on pet projects.

 

 

Things that I would NOT spend my tax money on:

1. Bailouts. FFS, let the market take care of whats "too big to fail"

2. States deficits. California, New York, Michigan: you spent your way into oblivion, I'm not going to drag your [wagon] back from the brink. They need to be responsible like everyone else.

3. Pet projects. No more pork money for "bows and arrows for kids" or the like. Let each district tax themselves and spend their money how they see fit.

4. Stadiums, Arts Centers, Community Centers. These subsidized beasts don't need public money to happen. If there's a need, an entrepreneur will make it happen. Not everyone uses these, they don't benefit everyone.

5. Foreign aid. Distributing contraceptives to earthquake victims in Haiti is a waste of money. Same with the "love boat" from the U.N.

Mine would go towards the military, schools, and public workers. I wouldn't pay for welfare or sending non-white people to college or anything like that.

The kewlist thing about the Off-topic forum on this board is that every time you see something really idiotic and think "wow, nobody could *possibly* post anything more ignorant than that!" -- you're wrong.

 

It's like real-life confirmation of Einstein's quote.

 

...I think he meant the current laws having a certain amount of non-whites required to get schoalrships? Since I'd say those laws are racist, easy. And wanting them to be abolished seems perfectly fine, unless I'm missing something huge....

 

 

EDIT:

^racist?

Also, i would say it would go to make university cheaper, stuff that affects me ykno

IDC bout the military

 

Either he was trolling, or tried to mean that he won't pay for government scholarships given to minorities solely because they are minorities.

Whoops....

I thought about it and I don't mind capitalism as a foundation but I'm still center left. Ideally I would pay 70-80 percent tax knowing that if I, or someone close to me, was hungry, unemployed or sick that I could rely on the government. Definitely no money towards the military, ever. Healthcare would cover mental and physical health and food, housing and transport would all be optional public goods/services. This would all be easily affordable if no money went towards military spending.

 

People who want private food, housing and public transport could still save and buy their own.

 

That country would be really, really, really nice imo.

 

That being said I'm happy enough being from NZ and not paying the man to drop bombs on people... yet

Some other things:

 

-Do not put money toward NATO, the UN, or any other binding alliance organization (Withdraw from them is what I would advocate)

-Cut military spending

 

4. Military. Carry a bigger stick than everyone else. However, cut out all the unnecessary pork spending on pet projects.

 

I'm not sure why. We could survive with a downsized military (at least downsize the budget and spend less on new gadgets).

 

Hell, at least it could make the US government a little less arrogant and teach us all humility. It would give us more freedom in the long-run.

I would gold plate everything in my house, and then flip a coin for the rest of the budget. Like a true australian politician.

I thought about it and I don't mind capitalism as a foundation but I'm still center left. Ideally I would pay 70-80 percent tax knowing that if I, or someone close to me, was hungry, unemployed or sick that I could rely on the government. Definitely no money towards the military, ever. Healthcare would cover mental and physical health and food, housing and transport would all be optional public goods/services. This would all be easily affordable if no money went towards military spending.

 

People who want private food, housing and public transport could still save and buy their own.

 

That country would be really, really, really nice imo.

 

That being said I'm happy enough being from NZ and not paying the man to drop bombs on people... yet

Have you ever actually payed taxes? 70-80%? Where's the incentive to work? What is this, a fake sense of altruism?

 

And dropping military funding? That's the one thing I'd pay for, apart from education. It's a vital aspect of a developed nation in a world where threats occur and need to be contained. That's the real world by the way.

If this topic is about the US: repaying the deficit.

 

every single penny of my taxes would go there. the US cannot afford not to pay down the deficit, which interets will consume all spending in the future otherwise.

 

I'm freaking out that noone else has said repaying the deficit. yes, you may not have been those spending the money, it's like inheriting a loan though: you get the house, but you have to continue paying the loan. the house is just about ready to be in an unending spiral towards reposession unless downpayments are made NOW.

preach. Paying back deficits is the priority. I srsly want this darn road widening project in town to get kicked into high gear.

 

Have you ever actually payed taxes? 70-80%? Where's the incentive to work? What is this, a fake sense of altruism?

 

And dropping military funding? That's the one thing I'd pay for, apart from education. It's a vital aspect of a developed nation in a world where threats occur and need to be contained. That's the real world by the way.

Yes I have paid taxes, yes I live in the real world, yes altruism exists. I have faith that humanity is naturally cooperative. I'm a teacher and I would gladly do my job even if I wasn't paid, so long as I am full, healthy and sheltered.

 

You've been in the states too long. Socialism isn't a theory with no value in the 'real world'. People like giving more than they like receiving. I hope you don't cite the US's ongoing position as the global power in support of capitalism and militarism, the world has moved on, the only major wars are in the middle east and that is because the US has been dropping bombs on mosques almost constantly for 21 years.

 

Its realistic and true that the world would be a better place without military. The American 'Defence' force, what a joke

 

Have you ever actually payed taxes? 70-80%? Where's the incentive to work? What is this, a fake sense of altruism?

 

And dropping military funding? That's the one thing I'd pay for, apart from education. It's a vital aspect of a developed nation in a world where threats occur and need to be contained. That's the real world by the way.

Yes I have paid taxes, yes I live in the real world, yes altruism exists. I have faith that humanity is naturally cooperative. I'm a teacher and I would gladly do my job even if I wasn't paid, so long as I am full, healthy and sheltered.

 

You've been in the states too long. Socialism isn't a theory with no value in the 'real world'. People like giving more than they like receiving. I hope you don't cite the US's ongoing position as the global power in support of capitalism and militarism, the world has moved on, the only major wars are in the middle east and that is because the US has been dropping bombs on mosques almost constantly for 21 years.

 

Its realistic and true that the world would be a better place without military. The American 'Defence' force, what a joke

 

Socialism is [cabbage], and you know it.

I'd never want to pay 70-80% taxes, no way. And it's a bit ridiculous statement as well. If you earn 2k € a month, how do you plan on living on 400€? Is the government going to pay your electric bills, food etc... So you're going to turn the country into communistic? I think so.

My country already has the highest taxes in the world, everything here is going to hell still.

Ok, no wars sounds nice and all. But please go tell the Russians, North Koreans or the Iranians that?

5. Foreign aid. Distributing contraceptives to earthquake victims in Haiti is a waste of money. Same with the "love boat" from the U.N.

 

That's stupid. More poor, in the long-term, are an issue. Refugees, death, sickness and starvation are everyone's problem. If you are that selfish, then get the hell off of our planet.

 

 

0.02% of the GNI. We spend many times that on buying over-priced over-marketed food for our pets.

 

Have you ever actually payed taxes? 70-80%? Where's the incentive to work? What is this, a fake sense of altruism?

 

And dropping military funding? That's the one thing I'd pay for, apart from education. It's a vital aspect of a developed nation in a world where threats occur and need to be contained. That's the real world by the way.

Yes I have paid taxes, yes I live in the real world, yes altruism exists. I have faith that humanity is naturally cooperative. I'm a teacher and I would gladly do my job even if I wasn't paid, so long as I am full, healthy and sheltered.

 

You've been in the states too long. Socialism isn't a theory with no value in the 'real world'. People like giving more than they like receiving. I hope you don't cite the US's ongoing position as the global power in support of capitalism and militarism, the world has moved on, the only major wars are in the middle east and that is because the US has been dropping bombs on mosques almost constantly for 21 years.

 

Its realistic and true that the world would be a better place without military. The American 'Defence' force, what a joke

 

Get out of here, you [bleep]ing Commie.

5. Foreign aid. Distributing contraceptives to earthquake victims in Haiti is a waste of money. Same with the "love boat" from the U.N.

 

That's stupid. More poor, in the long-term, are an issue. Refugees, death, sickness and starvation are everyone's problem. If you are that selfish, then get the hell off of our planet.

 

0.02% of the GNI. We spend many times that on buying over-priced over-marketed food for our pets.

 

I donate to causes that I agree with. Before the earthquake in Haiti, I donated money to my church's mission for a sister parish in Duval, Haiti. I don't want the government making those decisions for me. How is that selfish?

When government "donates", things like this happen:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/04/08/haiti-ruins-relief-workers-live-large-love-boat/

I think I would, first and foremost, fix the roads around here. Half of them are filled with potholes, the other half are uneven. After that, I would focus on Education mostly, with some Military and Healthcare.

 

Have you ever actually payed taxes? 70-80%? Where's the incentive to work? What is this, a fake sense of altruism?

 

And dropping military funding? That's the one thing I'd pay for, apart from education. It's a vital aspect of a developed nation in a world where threats occur and need to be contained. That's the real world by the way.

Yes I have paid taxes, yes I live in the real world, yes altruism exists. I have faith that humanity is naturally cooperative. I'm a teacher and I would gladly do my job even if I wasn't paid, so long as I am full, healthy and sheltered.

 

You've been in the states too long. Socialism isn't a theory with no value in the 'real world'. People like giving more than they like receiving. I hope you don't cite the US's ongoing position as the global power in support of capitalism and militarism, the world has moved on, the only major wars are in the middle east and that is because the US has been dropping bombs on mosques almost constantly for 21 years.

 

Its realistic and true that the world would be a better place without military. The American 'Defence' force, what a joke

 

Serious? People like giving more than receiving? Maybe at Christmas, but in the real world, people are selfish greedy Darwinian creatures, there is a reason why no commune has ever succeeded. And please the world is still playing catch up, Europe is [bleep]ed atm. They found Prozac in the water in some parts of Britain for cripes sake. Sure America has been dropping bombs on mosques for 21 years, but if we hadn't, there'd be bombs blowing up our churches in America. If you think the extremists/Taliban/terrorist/whatever wouldn't kill us all if we acted nice to them, you are horrible mistaken. And I agree with Reb, military is important, very important. However, I'd take a little bit off the military to pay down this damn deficit, it's embarrassing.

 

5. Foreign aid. Distributing contraceptives to earthquake victims in Haiti is a waste of money. Same with the "love boat" from the U.N.

 

That's stupid. More poor, in the long-term, are an issue. Refugees, death, sickness and starvation are everyone's problem. If you are that selfish, then get the hell off of our planet.

 

 

0.02% of the GNI. We spend many times that on buying over-priced over-marketed food for our pets.

 

It's not a requirement to care for other people out of this nation. the US gives so much to other countries, what have we received? Who came to our aid after our numerous terrorist attacks? Not even monetary aid, even just "hey life's a [bleep], we feel for you."

 

I mean if you want to be suckered into giving your money to everyone else in the world, that's fine. Just don't ask why America has a deficit, or any other monetary problems.

It's not a requirement to care for other people out of this nation. the US gives so much to other countries, what have we received? Who came to our aid after our numerous terrorist attacks? Not even monetary aid, even just "hey life's a [bleep], we feel for you." I mean if you want to be suckered into giving your money to everyone else in the world, that's fine. Just don't ask why America has a deficit, or any other monetary problems.

 

How soon we forget.

 

To steer this back to the original post, I would have to say that from a budgetary position, certain things are sacrosanct:

 

(1) Providing for the common defense (i.e. the military)

(2) Social Security (until it would be phased out)

(3) Infrastructure (highways, telecom, airports, etc).

(4) Paying down the debt

 

Foreign aid would be in the sheet of 200 I proposed earlier. If people want to go above and beyond that, there are charitable organizations that can do that outside of the government umbrella.

I'd like to see the public libraries in the United States improve. Not to mention, our youth are hilariously unread.

It's not a requirement to care for other people out of this nation. the US gives so much to other countries, what have we received? Who came to our aid after our numerous terrorist attacks? Not even monetary aid, even just "hey life's a [bleep], we feel for you." I mean if you want to be suckered into giving your money to everyone else in the world, that's fine. Just don't ask why America has a deficit, or any other monetary problems.

 

How soon we forget.

 

To steer this back to the original post, I would have to say that from a budgetary position, certain things are sacrosanct:

 

(1) Providing for the common defense (i.e. the military)

(2) Social Security (until it would be phased out)

(3) Infrastructure (highways, telecom, airports, etc).

(4) Paying down the debt

 

Foreign aid would be in the sheet of 200 I proposed earlier. If people want to go above and beyond that, there are charitable organizations that can do that outside of the government umbrella.

 

 

 

Ok, so I shoulda have rephrased it, so I will.

 

The amount we give out to other countries is nowhere near to what we get back from them.

People like giving more than they like receiving.

:unsure:

 

Anyway, I sense this topic is going to be a forum re-enactment of the Capitalist Pigs vs. Communist Dogs. I'll be in the back seats if you need me.

People like giving more than they like receiving.

:unsure:

 

Anyway, I sense this topic is going to be a forum re-enactment of the Capitalist Pigs vs. Communist Dogs. I'll be in the back seats if you need me.

Well that's my belief and I'm educated enough and have enough experience to 'know better'. The idea that people are naturally altruistic and its political implications has existed in asia since the period of warring states (500BC) and its not going away.

People like giving more than they like receiving.

:unsure:

 

Anyway, I sense this topic is going to be a forum re-enactment of the Capitalist Pigs vs. Communist Dogs. I'll be in the back seats if you need me.

Well that's my belief and I'm educated enough and have enough experience to 'know better'. The idea that people are naturally altruistic and its political implications has existed in asia since the period of warring states (500BC) and its not going away.

 

Ok let's just lists this as sarcastically as I can, so I don't face palm my latop into my face, thus wrecking it.

 

(Note: this is in particular order)

 

1) Palestinian dispute never happened, after all, the Israelians submitted the land centuries ago. Remember?

2)Remember back in the days when you wre in school? America flourished because the Indians were happy to give us the land, in fact, they like they're reservations better anyways.

3)Britain, good ol' Britain. They are such nice people, people in the islands around Africa India etc, gave them the land! Golly gee, you are right Nickeley.

 

If everyone was so happy to give, more so than receive, would like 90% of the wars even exist today? Just give into that religion, give that land away. etc.etc.etc.

5. Foreign aid. Distributing contraceptives to earthquake victims in Haiti is a waste of money. Same with the "love boat" from the U.N.

 

That's stupid. More poor, in the long-term, are an issue. Refugees, death, sickness and starvation are everyone's problem. If you are that selfish, then get the hell off of our planet.

 

0.02% of the GNI. We spend many times that on buying over-priced over-marketed food for our pets.

 

I donate to causes that I agree with. Before the earthquake in Haiti, I donated money to my church's mission for a sister parish in Duval, Haiti. I don't want the government making those decisions for me. How is that selfish?

When government "donates", things like this happen:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/04/08/haiti-ruins-relief-workers-live-large-love-boat/

 

First off all, a donation to a religious organization should not be considered a donation. I'm interested in the article but would appreciate it if you could provide an alternate source. I don't participate in the delusion that FOX is anything but the communications arm of the Republican party.