Cause I'm not wrong. I have an excellent memory and i distinctly remember reading it.

Cause I'm not wrong. I have an excellent memory and i distinctly remember reading it.

 

And I'm Batman. Prove me wrong. :rolleyes:

W/e if you don't wanna believe me fine, after all I don't have the FAQ where it was mentioned to back myself up.

But I know what I read and I know what my memory is like; and I know I read it.

How can you prove your right? With your only cited sources; your memory which didn't correctly recall the dialogue at the beginning talking about Nomad working for Surok, and a page on the forums you cant find.

 

First you said Nomad had nothing to do with anything related to MOTM storyline.

Then you said Nomad was related to Surok, but not anything with Lucien.

 

If the facts all match up against your favor, and you cant find any sources to prove your correct, and you keep changing your story on who is related to who, how you can say you were always right?

 

I'm not trying to single you out, but don't say one thing and then change your story and then try to say, oh well I was never wrong. Nobody cares if you are wrong, but saying you right 100% of the time just proves you make inaccurate claims and nobody will ever believe you about anything.

The quest dialogue doesn't mention Surok or Lucien.

It implies it but doesnt directly say it. So they are speculation.

 

Equally relation to Surok isn't auto links to Mahjaratt

 

I haven't changed my story at all.

The quest dialogue doesn't mention Surok or Lucien.

It implies it but doesnt directly say it. So they are speculation.

 

Equally relation to Surok isn't auto links to Mahjaratt

 

I haven't changed my story at all.

 

Are you playing Devil's Advocate on purpose? If you are, you're a pretty good troll. If you're not, you're an idiot. Surok's -- and by extension, Lucien's -- minions are FEATURED IN THE QUEST. Surok was trapped in a library by a guy who sells battlestaffs for a living, and you think that HE might be the former master trying to kill Nomad? You're clutching at air and failing.

It makes me laugh how you're all so dumb.

 

Regardless of what way you look at it any concept of who his master is is speculation as we haven't been told. So my original post stands true, the story of Nomads Requiem has nothing to do with surok, or lucien or anyeone.

Its pure a simple we go after him cause hes up to something, hes afraid of his old master.

 

And as I stated yes I can't pull up the post because its vanished to the abyss of deletion, but I remember it clearly cause I have a good memory. So I can say with certainty whether you want to believe it or not, Jmods have said Nomad's story is standalone and does not cross with the mahjaratt story.

Nomad used to look like an Elite Dark Mage, right, like, the ones that were minions of Lucien? It's also stated that he betrayed a former employer. Well if Elite Dark Mages are employed by Lucien, then wasn't Nomad previously employed by Lucien?

 

EDIT: Also, just because they won't be crossed over, doesn't mean they aren't related. In addition, JMods CAN be wrong. They said for years guns wouldn't be added, then "hey look guys let's make a handcannon!".

Nomad used to look like an Elite Dark Mage, right, like, the ones that were minions of Lucien? It's also stated that he betrayed a former employer. Well if Elite Dark Mages are employed by Lucien, then wasn't Nomad previously employed by Lucien?

 

Old graphics aren't really a solid basis for speculation, if it was relevant he'd still look a bit like one would he not? Otherwise no new member could ever make that link.

And it is a reasonable speculation based on evidence in the quest, but it is jsut that: speculation. Not part of the story that was requested.

 

And I never said they weren't related, unless I made an error in my wording all I ever said was Jmods said they won't overlap.

That's what TIF'ers do best.

I guess it's a little late to point this out, but you've ventured far into the realm of non-argument and circle talking. You're arguing that because there's an infinitesimal chance that Nomad was NOT working for Lucien, it must be the case that there could be any number of wild scenarios that explain why Lucien's minions attacked Nomad. You ARE playing Devil's Advocate, but you don't know it, and that makes you a complete imbecile.

 

I distinctly remember Zaros being resurrected in Sheep Shearer. I have an excellent memory. Nothing you say can convince me otherwise. Prove me wrong.

 

EDIT:

 

Old graphics aren't really a solid basis for speculation,

 

I'd really love to hear what your idea of a "solid basis for speculation" is. :rolleyes:

If you wanna be childish fair enough.

Anyone who knows me knows I have a good memory and I have proven so many times on forums by recalling old news posts and patch notes and random facts all of which can be proven correct.

 

Doesn't change a thing the facts still remain:

Lcuein and Surok and the Mahjaratt have nothing to do with the story of Nomads Requiem as they are speculation.

If you wanna be childish fair enough.

Anyone who knows me knows I have a good memory and I have proven so many times on forums by recalling old news posts and patch notes and random facts all of which can be proven correct.

 

Doesn't change a thing the facts still remain:

Lcuein and Surok and the Mahjaratt have nothing to do with the story of Nomads Requiem as they are speculation.

 

Simple question: If Lucien has nothing to do with Nomad, why are his minions attacking Nomad?

Thats a question to be answered. We don't even know for sure there are Luciens minions.

As I went through before we know they have some link to Surok, we know Surok has some plans outside of Lucien's.

We know they look vaguely like the Dagon Hai monks.

We know the Black Knights, who have some of the mages in their elite basement worship Zamorak.

Just from thoose alone we got several routes to explore that don't feature Lucien.

 

Sure you could argue Nomad fears his master therefore must be uber powerful Lucien, but don't forget 1 quest ago Lucien was nothing. Anybody in rs we already know or don't know could be that strong, all it takes is a quest. Heck it could be Drakan (sp?)

Plus must not forget we beat Nomad, so how powerful his master is doesn't HAVE to be that much higher than we are.

Thats a question to be answered. We don't even know for sure there are Luciens minions.

As I went through before we know they have some link to Surok, we know Surok has some plans outside of Lucien's.

We know they look vaguely like the Dagon Hai monks.

We know the Black Knights, who have some of the mages in their elite basement worship Zamorak.

Just from thoose alone we got several routes to explore that don't feature Lucien.

 

Sure you could argue Nomad fears his master therefore must be uber powerful Lucien, but don't forget 1 quest ago Lucien was nothing. Anybody in rs we already know or don't know could be that strong, all it takes is a quest. Heck it could be Drakan (sp?)

Plus must not forget we beat Nomad, so how powerful his master is doesn't HAVE to be that much higher than we are.

 

The elite black warriors that attacked Nomad are the same exact elite black warriors that Lucien commands in WGS. This is irrefutable.

 

Lucien, like all Mahjarrat, is talented at concealing himself and deceiving people. There is every reason to believe that he was just acting when he appeared to be weak.

 

We happened to stumble upon Nomad before he had finished powering himself up, hence why we were able to beat him.

 

You speculate that his former master could be Drakan despite the fact that there is literally zero evidence for such a speculation, yet you dismiss the idea that Lucien is the former master when LUCIEN'S MINIONS are shown attacking Nomad IN THE QUEST?

 

You must be trolling. There's no other explanation.

Lol, look at what I started here....

Paw, you cannot state that you are not wrong without proof. The opposition cannot say you're wrong without proof either, so we're basically at a stand-still. Neither side has proof right now, that includes you, contrary to your own belief.

 

Elite Black Armor:

 

 

"Ah... Lord Surok! Lord Lucien is 'recruiting', you can observe from the top of the chapel." - Elite Black Knight

 

Addressing a separate issue, a while back Jagex said they would release a cape in RS2 for those of us who played RSC. Several months later in a Q&A, I asked about it and MMG told me (post 9) it wasn't going to happen anymore. Jagex can go back on anything they say, so regardless of whether or not a mod said Nomad is unrelated to a certain storyline, it is not a valid argument by any means.

Doesn't change a thing the facts still remain:

Lcuein and Surok and the Mahjaratt have nothing to do with the story of Nomads Requiem as they are speculation.

I'd just like to point out that this isn't correct... having no evidence doesn't mean they're not related, y'know :roll:.

Doesn't change a thing the facts still remain:

Lcuein and Surok and the Mahjaratt have nothing to do with the story of Nomads Requiem as they are speculation.

I'd just like to point out that this isn't correct... having no evidence doesn't mean they're not related, y'know :roll:.

 

I didnt say that.

 

I said they are SPECULATION and therefore are not part of the story of the quest Nomad's Reqiuem.

If/When a sequel is made if it ties them in then it would be related, but at this point in time they are not related to the story in anything but speculation

 

@The armour thing. We've already covered this. All that proves is thoose three attacked him. It does not conclusively prove why they did so, who nomads master is and there can be questions as to who's authority made them do it. Was it a black knight movement? Was it Surok commanding them? Or was it Lucien we do not know

 

@Vulxai we've been over this time and time again as well. I do not expect anybody to believe me since I cannot produce the post that has been lost. But that doesn't mean I have to ignore what I remember when it's never failed me yet and jsut because I can't pull up a psot doesn't in anyway prove lucien or mahjaratt involvement beyond speculation.

 

 

This is jsut going in [developmentally delayed]ed circles cause some people cannot get over the fact I made 1 statement and cannot produce the proof to back it up cause its been lost. Even though that statement is totally irrelevant to the topic at hand as the OP asked for the story of the quest. Not speculation based on the quest, however likely it may be, and thus my original point stands in this story as it stands right now all the lucien stuff is NOT part of it. Its speculation.

EDIT: [hijack]

Happy now?

 

You DID say that, in the phrase "nothing to do with". Trying to get out with some syllogism shifts, eh? I've seen creatonists do that... not pretty.

 

[/hijack]

Try re-reading. I said it has nothing to do with what the op asked all along.

what a ridiculously childish argument lmao

 

this is what happens when geek egos get bruised

 

@ both

Sorry to bump, but it was stated before that it wasn't definitive whether or not he was a Mahjarrat or simply a strong mage.

 

Fantastic evidence to the ladder has been mentioned in this thread. Another reason is that fact that he has skin. No other Mahjarrat we've seen (Akthanos, Enankra, Lucien, etc) has skin, instead we see skeletons. Only Sliske has skin, since assumingly if he can change his appearance, he can give himself skin. Nomad is certainly not Sliske, so he's no Mahjarrat.

Sorry to bump, but it was stated before that it wasn't definitive whether or not he was a Mahjarrat or simply a strong mage.

 

Fantastic evidence to the ladder has been mentioned in this thread. Another reason is that fact that he has skin. No other Mahjarrat we've seen (Akthanos, Enankra, Lucien, etc) has skin, instead we see skeletons. Only Sliske has skin, since assumingly if he can change his appearance, he can give himself skin. Nomad is certainly not Sliske, so he's no Mahjarrat.

 

Mahjarrat are incredibly skilled shapeshifters (Sliske being the best). Azzanadra gives himself skin in Temple at Senntisten, for example. The only reason I personally believe that Nomad might possibly be Bilrach is that they both seem to seek power in strange places. I'm not crossing my fingers, though.