Delta V

[Icuownage]

And Iconic... There is another way to defend from it... THE GUN CAN BE DESTROYED CAUSE IT HAS TO BE NEAR THE PLANET TO BE OF ANY USE. Ofcourse research into stealth technology kind of renders it being hard to find. And then I can install a guard if I fear it's safety.

[Iconic]

Plus I will be using it mainly on myself unless you guys start seeming like you want to go to war with me.

So you can have overpowered weapons as long as you only use them for defence, or claim to.

 

It wouldn't even work, you can't teleport electricity or get it to a different area without either interface (static would kill it) or short distance appliance.

[paul191600]

Artillery nuke: planet busting nuke that can be launched from a silo, can travel across the galaxy and is cloaked. There is a self-destruct button, however

[Iconic]

And Iconic... There is another way to defend from it... THE GUN CAN BE DESTROYED CAUSE IT HAS TO BE NEAR THE PLANET TO BE OF ANY USE. Ofcourse research into stealth technology kind of renders it being hard to find. And then I can install a guard if I fear it's safety.

So its a weapon that I can't trace, I can't stop but the moment theres a war you can proxy control my people to disagree with me.

[Iconic]

EDIT: Or skip all that and just pass out tinfoil hats.

Icu said the only way to stop it was one secret thing that took exactly 100 years to research, I think this needs some looking into.

[Seraphi]

How about we let Archi handle the balancing. As he has said multiple times, he wants us to make it overpowered, because lets be honest here, we're all playing to win, as well as having fun.

 

I trust him not to have any bias, and as stated, if your race dies you start again somewhere else. Not really a big deal.

[The_Mather1]

I don't play to win, I just want to get allies and make tech, though some challanges would be great. Just like my gaming style in RS, I play to learn the history and to do quests.

[a_bert]

[spoiler=i thought i could do ships]but i still can't

 

 

22:54 - a!n: i know

22:54 - a!n: your ship is a transformer

22:54 - a!n: and the blue space is required for transformation into a robot

22:55 - a!n: its basically where the robot limbs are in space ship form

[Seraphi]

Hey Archi, I have my ship design, but could I possibly give you the specs and then just show a picture here? I'm doing my 500 years of research right now, and I'd like to keep some of the features a secret until they need to be revealed.

[a_bert]

bigger the fool us

[Seraphi]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'll reveal most of it, but there are certain elements I want kept secret for the time being.

[a_bert]

itt: ross does the exact same thing he has done for the last 6 hegemonies

[Seraphi]

What can I say.

 

I'm predictable.

[Iconic]

Clear Text- Espionage Penalty

[Icuownage]

Okay I will just finish up my planet specs, I am also redoing my tech list which I will pm you Arch if that is okay.

 

Ship designs might be done by tonight but something annoying happened in my house and it's just made me rage.

 

Also it is not undetectable, I said I could MAKE it undetectable.

[Grim_]

Damn now I have to redo my city designs (I will send ships soon arch). On a quasi related note: How much would it cost to create a warp missile arch?

[Iconic]

Also it is not undetectable, I said I could MAKE it undetectable.

Therfore it is.

[Icuownage]

It'd take a few years... Though I could always use my 500 year research to make stealth.

 

Why so defensive anyway? I am probably no where near you, I hope I am not near any of you guys so soon, I don't want to have a pvp war so early.

[Grim_]

What sector are you in icu? (I'm in sector 88 and mather's in 89 [for some strange reason] but I don't know about the others)

[Iconic]

It'd take a few years... Though I could always use my 500 year research to make stealth.

 

Why so defensive anyway? I am probably no where near you, I hope I am not near any of you guys so soon, I don't want to have a pvp war so early.

 

Icu, you've spent your five hundred years.

I'm in sector 24.

I don't want an undetectable, unstoppable, instantenious mind controlller.

 

Yeh, Rocco he posted that he would only use it 'defensively' that doesn't matter at all, you still have the power to control a large amount of peoples minds.

[Icuownage]

Sector 42.

 

Rocco I'm saying that if a bunch of them sieged you or stealthed near your system then you'd start seeing issues, but issues escalate. It is a specialised gun really, only useful in a handful of situations, but when it situation arises it is great at it.

 

Like I said it is a defense/siege/spy weapon. Mainly spy. BUT I am only going to use it on myself really. Like one of my disadvantages is if I lose a spaceship, then my people get angry... Not anymore...

 

But if you provoke me I will use it.

[Iconic]

Icu, it doesn't matter what your going to use it for, you have a long distance, undefendable weapon that can literally destroy an empire in a matter of days and your arguing that you will only use it for spying! That doesn't matter! You still have a high power offensive weapon that can't be defended from in any way.

 

Edit: Icu, the more a threat you are to me the more likely I am to attack you. If you have a big ray gun or something I'd agree it would be a fair fight and probably wouldn't take military action but if there is a threat that i have no way of knowing whether its happening or not and no way of stopping than I am almost going to certiantly attack you.

 

Like I said it is a defense/siege/spy weapon. Mainly spy. BUT I am only going to use it on myself really. Like one of my disadvantages is if I lose a spaceship, then my people get angry... Not anymore...

 

But if you provoke me I will use it.

That doesn't matter, you still have the tech.

 

You can't just say "I have X, it will kill everything. I won't use X.... Unless you provoke me, than I will be able to obliterate you in a matter of seconds.

 

Archi, can I have a space bonus due to my race being the size of a rabbit.

[Icuownage]

Bring it, your race controls minds... So does mind...

 

And okay having weapons that take up 150 (I counted, I swore it was 250, but I counted the loyalty field with it) apparently have to be nerfed so that unresearched defenses can contend with it, cause you wouldn't want someone to excel.

 

AND I HAVEN'T GOT STEALTH TECH YET BUT THE MORE YOU BLABBER ON ABOUT IT THE MORE I AM LIKELY TO ASK FOR IT WHEN I UPDATE MY TECH LIST.

[Iconic]

Bring it, your race controls minds... So does mind...

 

AND I HAVEN'T GOT STEALTH TECH YET BUT THE MORE YOU BLABBER ON ABOUT IT THE MORE I AM LIKELY TO ASK FOR IT WHEN I UPDATE MY TECH LIST.

Yes but mines reasonable, my race literally has to latch on to you and then a person is given control over what we might aswell call a zombie, you can just press a button from space and than instantly you can just turn fifty people into slaves. Not to mention that it wouldn't scientificially work, electricity can't teleport and you can't control impulses in any other way, the only way to do it would be to wear a helmet.

 

AND YOU WON'T BE ALLOWED THEM BECAUSE ITS TOTALLY OVERPOWERED!

[archimage_a]

Mather:

Recharge time between salvos being dependent on the number of reactors you have, which are currently 0, thus can only fire once.

 

As far as I am aware they are self guided missiles...and are charged with energy to pack an extra punch.

 

Also, they effect shields in much the same way as any other weapon, meaning they will damage your shields...since they are physical, they can't be phase tuned, leaving you with magnetic shields.

 

City ships are in the region of 300,000 resources and 400,000 cash. The free ones you have on the planet, don't have engines, generators or indeed shields(Obviously adding them is possible), so are currently cities, not city ships.

 

Rocco:

Turbo Lasers(as shown in every Star Wars film and game) have the accuracy of a blind man with a spear...however they pack a hell of a bunch.

Quad Lasers, though, are much weaker, but are much more accurate, and since there are 4 times as many, they are 4 times as likely to hit(on top of that).

 

1. only known npc race is right next to my sector.

NPCs have a random chance of occuring in any system you survey(from a single ship to their homeworld)

 

ftl travel means travelling between sectors will take a few turns at the longest

Hyperdrives do 1 sector per year(3 months), Matter Gates go all over the galaxy.

Other drives go faster or slower.

 

1. I don't know about the percentage for the first one but it's probably less than a 25% bonus.

2. Assuming a 90% reduction, it would still require 60,000 resources and 4,000 cash to build a capital ship.

3. You can only gather x resources per year, so you won't be able to build ships that are much larger than mine in any small amount of time.

4. Convincing 5 people to believe something doesn't mean it will start a rebellion...

Yes.

100% reduction in cost.(His people want to build ships)

True, only nex has an advantage there.

True.

 

Ico:

There are other limits on your tech...that you know about.

However, loyalty effects are permenant(They add a rule like 'Obey person X for the rest of your life' to a persons brain, so one gun can turn billions. So wording will be important...

And, like everything else, researching antis, is possible.

 

Edel:

Overpowered weapons are fine...Its not like they will be overpowered for very long before someone takes them down.

 

Ross:

Sending me the stats and posting the picture here is fine.

 

Rocco:

Pictures should be shown here, stats are secret until you battle/or blueprint steal the enemy.

 

Grim:

Sorry >.<

Hyperdrive missiles would cost 50 resources and 20 cash

 

I don't want an undetectable, unstoppable, instantenious mind controlller.

Hmmmm, this could be interesting...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anywho, techs are techs...they are not defensive, they are not offensive, they are just techs. For all anyone knows Ico is using the loyalty guns to make animals want to be eaten, thus preventing the evil vegetarians from protesting so much...Or he could be working towards a huge loyalty beam that controls star systems.

 

 

Oh and Tin Foil Hats...would be interesting.