As for the point about flipping: Flipping an item doesn't mean you have to use it. Plus you can flip non-Bandos items

I think you mean: "Flipping an item doesn't mean you can't use it."? So you mean to say you can flip Bandos while using it?

 

No lol. What I mean is that you can own and flip and item and not use it. So you can own Bandos and flip it without using it for slayer.

Then how is that relevant to my argument? If you put 45m into buying Bandos, you can't use that same 45m to flip and make money, right? So it's costing you?

 

No, I'm saying being able to flip Bandos has nothing to do with Bandos being useful in combat.

As for the point about flipping: Flipping an item doesn't mean you have to use it. Plus you can flip non-Bandos items

I think you mean: "Flipping an item doesn't mean you can't use it."? So you mean to say you can flip Bandos while using it?

 

No lol. What I mean is that you can own and flip and item and not use it. So you can own Bandos and flip it without using it for slayer.

Then how is that relevant to my argument? If you put 45m into buying Bandos, you can't use that same 45m to flip and make money, right? So it's costing you?

 

The COST of bandos is rather irrelevant to this arguement, as we are discussing the cost of USING bandos compared to other armor, as well as the BENEFITS and LIMITATIONS of bandos. COST =/= this discussion.

The COST of bandos is rather irrelevant to this arguement, as we are discussing the cost of USING bandos compared to other armor, as well as the BENEFITS and LIMITATIONS of bandos. COST =/= this discussion.

Just to nitpick, I think you mean the price is irrelevant.

 

Although you certainly can take into account the cost of losing the ability to merch with the ~20-25m you'd have tied up in the BCP, if you're the type of player who does that.

Nice read, but I'll still wear my Bandos ;3

The COST of bandos is rather irrelevant to this arguement, as we are discussing the cost of USING bandos compared to other armor, as well as the BENEFITS and LIMITATIONS of bandos. COST =/= this discussion.

Just to nitpick, I think you mean the price is irrelevant.

 

Although you certainly can take into account the cost of losing the ability to merch with the ~20-25m you'd have tied up in the BCP, if you're the type of player who does that.

 

Not in this thread though, as the price, (thanks for correcting) isn't a factor here.

The COST of bandos is rather irrelevant to this arguement, as we are discussing the cost of USING bandos compared to other armor, as well as the BENEFITS and LIMITATIONS of bandos. COST =/= this discussion.

Just to nitpick, I think you mean the price is irrelevant.

 

Although you certainly can take into account the cost of losing the ability to merch with the ~20-25m you'd have tied up in the BCP, if you're the type of player who does that.

 

Not in this thread though, as the price, (thanks for correcting) isn't a factor here.

 

Cost and value of time were mentioned numerous times in the original post.

The COST of bandos is rather irrelevant to this arguement, as we are discussing the cost of USING bandos compared to other armor, as well as the BENEFITS and LIMITATIONS of bandos. COST =/= this discussion.

Just to nitpick, I think you mean the price is irrelevant.

 

Although you certainly can take into account the cost of losing the ability to merch with the ~20-25m you'd have tied up in the BCP, if you're the type of player who does that.

 

Not in this thread though, as the price, (thanks for correcting) isn't a factor here.

 

Cost and value of time were mentioned numerous times in the original post.

 

 

Wrong, the price of the gear was NOT mentioned.

The COST of bandos is rather irrelevant to this arguement, as we are discussing the cost of USING bandos compared to other armor, as well as the BENEFITS and LIMITATIONS of bandos. COST =/= this discussion.

Just to nitpick, I think you mean the price is irrelevant.

 

Although you certainly can take into account the cost of losing the ability to merch with the ~20-25m you'd have tied up in the BCP, if you're the type of player who does that.

 

Not in this thread though, as the price, (thanks for correcting) isn't a factor here.

 

Cost and value of time were mentioned numerous times in the original post.

 

 

Wrong, the price of the gear was NOT mentioned.

Oh... I read the first post thinking the TL; DR would be "Don't break your bank to buy Bandos!"...

The COST of bandos is rather irrelevant to this arguement, as we are discussing the cost of USING bandos compared to other armor, as well as the BENEFITS and LIMITATIONS of bandos. COST =/= this discussion.

Just to nitpick, I think you mean the price is irrelevant.

 

Although you certainly can take into account the cost of losing the ability to merch with the ~20-25m you'd have tied up in the BCP, if you're the type of player who does that.

 

Not in this thread though, as the price, (thanks for correcting) isn't a factor here.

 

Cost and value of time were mentioned numerous times in the original post.

 

 

Wrong, the price of the gear was NOT mentioned.

 

Some other things to consider

-- Cost: Bandos is significantly more expensive than either Torag's or Proselyte.

 

:S

 

Also you can still flip an item you use, it's just that you won't be able to use it as often.

Proslyte +Turmoil grossly outshines Bandos if you use an SGS and special restore potions. I was able to kill 133 gargoyles in around twenty minutes (with the auto-kill ability) while only consuming one four-dose prayer potion like this. I prefer a verac skirt over proslyte, however, for the added defense.

Proslyte +Turmoil grossly outshines Bandos if you use an SGS and special restore potions. I was able to kill 133 gargoyles in around twenty minutes (with the auto-kill ability) while only consuming one four-dose prayer potion like this. I prefer a verac skirt over proslyte, however, for the added defense.

 

Well as long as you have at least +10 prayer, you're going to be able to complete most tasks on a single invent of prayer potions, so Bandos + fire cape is actually the best possible setup for slayer if you can afford the prayer potions. Bandos + SW cape is more economical, though, and only slightly less effective (it's also more invent-friendly, which I like).

Proslyte +Turmoil grossly outshines Bandos if you use an SGS and special restore potions. I was able to kill 133 gargoyles in around twenty minutes (with the auto-kill ability) while only consuming one four-dose prayer potion like this. I prefer a verac skirt over proslyte, however, for the added defense.

 

Well as long as you have at least +10 prayer, you're going to be able to complete most tasks on a single invent of prayer potions, so Bandos + fire cape is actually the best possible setup for slayer if you can afford the prayer potions. Bandos + SW cape is more economical, though, and only slightly less effective (it's also more invent-friendly, which I like).

The goal is to use up as few pray pots as possible, though.

I dont have the extra money for bandos at the moment so I wear fighter torso and v skirt and when I turmoil I use prossy top. I will however purchase bandos as soon as I can do to how well it shines at Dk's.

Proslyte +Turmoil grossly outshines Bandos if you use an SGS and special restore potions. I was able to kill 133 gargoyles in around twenty minutes (with the auto-kill ability) while only consuming one four-dose prayer potion like this. I prefer a verac skirt over proslyte, however, for the added defense.

 

Well as long as you have at least +10 prayer, you're going to be able to complete most tasks on a single invent of prayer potions, so Bandos + fire cape is actually the best possible setup for slayer if you can afford the prayer potions. Bandos + SW cape is more economical, though, and only slightly less effective (it's also more invent-friendly, which I like).

The goal is to use up as few pray pots as possible, though.

 

I guess that's down to preferences, then, but it's worth noting that prayer bonus doesn't work linearly (as in, the difference between +30 and +20 is much smaller than the difference between +10 and +20). I think it's worth using more prayer potions to have a higher strength bonus.

 

EDIT: D'oh, Bladewing already brought that up and provided examples:

 

Turmoil drains one point every 1.8 x (1 + 3.5% [prayer bonus]) seconds.

 

So in one hour, it drains:

 

2,000 points with 0 prayer bonus

1,481 points with 10 prayer bonus

1,176 points with 20 prayer bonus

975 points with 30 prayer bonus

833 points with 40 prayer bonus

727 points with 50 prayer bonus

 

As you can see, the more prayer bonus you have, the less useful more prayer bonus becomes.

Proslyte +Turmoil grossly outshines Bandos if you use an SGS and special restore potions. I was able to kill 133 gargoyles in around twenty minutes (with the auto-kill ability) while only consuming one four-dose prayer potion like this. I prefer a verac skirt over proslyte, however, for the added defense.

 

Well as long as you have at least +10 prayer, you're going to be able to complete most tasks on a single invent of prayer potions, so Bandos + fire cape is actually the best possible setup for slayer if you can afford the prayer potions. Bandos + SW cape is more economical, though, and only slightly less effective (it's also more invent-friendly, which I like).

The goal is to use up as few pray pots as possible, though.

No its not. P pots are cheap. Thats why SGS is such crap, it really saves so little, hence why claws are so good. (especially in kura's dungeon.)

Stopped reading at 'prostelyte > bandos for slayer' lol... :shame:

As has been said, the number of prayer pots used is irrelevant as long as you can a) finish the task in 1 trip and b) make enough money per hour to cover the cost of 2-3 more prayer potions used per task.

As has been said, the number of prayer pots used is irrelevant as long as you can a) finish the task in 1 trip and b) make enough money per hour to cover the cost of 2-3 more prayer potions used per task.

 

Occasionally you don't finish the task in one trip, though. IN an ideal world all of us would, but often we don't. Also think of the players who don't have SS/Uni and can't heal like maxed players can.

 

Stopped reading at 'prostelyte > bandos for slayer' lol... :shame:

This is exactly the kind of close-mindedness I want to fight against... it's not wrong to be open to new ideas.

As has been said, the number of prayer pots used is irrelevant as long as you can a) finish the task in 1 trip and b) make enough money per hour to cover the cost of 2-3 more prayer potions used per task.

 

Occasionally you don't finish the task in one trip, though. IN an ideal world all of us would, but often we don't. Also think of the players who don't have SS/Uni and can't heal like maxed players can.

 

Stopped reading at 'prostelyte > bandos for slayer' lol... :shame:

This is exactly the kind of close-mindedness I want to fight against... it's not wrong to be open to new ideas.

If you can afford the ppots, the +6 str is better than the pray.

If you can afford the ppots, the +6 str is better than the pray.

 

The whole point of the original post was to categorize when the strength bonus is better and when the prayer bonus is better.

 

TL;DR

Use Bandos if:

-- You have soul wars cape

-- You use turmoil on tasks

-- Your task is uncannonable or not in multi

 

Use proselyte/verac if:

-- You have to protect pray

-- You don't have a soul wars cape

-- Your task is in multi and your familiar/cannon will do a lot of damage

I have never taken more than 1 trip to do a slayer task, even when using protect pray and turmoil in bandos + sw cape. :razz:

I have never taken more than 1 trip to do a slayer task, even when using protect pray and turmoil in bandos + sw cape. :razz:

 

Yeah, part of becoming a proficient slayer is finding the most efficient and effective inventory possible; one that will allow you to stay the duration of the task without banking. This is why Guthan's was such a big deal four years ago. Because I've been doing it for so long, I kind of have a sixth sense for constructing slayer inventories without having to think about it.

 

The only task worth banking on his spectres due to the extremely high volume of herb drops and the speed at which you can bank. But that's preference.

banking is easy eitherway lol

 

but i bank at blue dragons too

Pvp armour is often overlookered for pvping, why use bandos for str or torags for defence when you can use stat or vesta to beat both. The hour it lasts is more than enough becuase who really lasts an hour of combat without ever dieing (excluding rushers) so using better gear in the long run will save you money (10 vesta sets per one bandos).

Bandos also has better range defence than torags.

Pvp armour is often overlookered for pvping, why use bandos for str or torags for defence when you can use stat or vesta to beat both. The hour it lasts is more than enough becuase who really lasts an hour of combat without ever dieing (excluding rushers) so using better gear in the long run will save you money (10 vesta sets per one bandos).

Bandos also has better range defence than torags.

Because PvP Armor protects over more valuable items.