The ability to "Zero" A stat

[Agilewave_]

Now, i speak only for myself and my friends, but it is my belief that i speak for a far greater collective when i bring this up.

 

I'm an old school rs player. I played back when rs2 had just begun, and since. Because of this, it has always been my dream to hit the 126 mark, and be a powerful warrior.

 

However.

 

 

With the addition of summoning, i found some quests were undoable without a high summoning level. So i gained some summoning. The end result, however, was largely unsatisfactory. When i looked over my levels later that day, i found i had gained a overall combat levels, a change that will not only ruin my ability to maintain an actual 128, but now forces me to show a number which has nothing to do with my battle capabilites whatsoever, unless i'm in a free to play world.

 

 

I've talked with many friends about this, and most of them actually agree with me. There are buffs out there who love summoning, and this might be good for them, but for me, i'll never want to max out summoning, or train it at all- and to be honest- i wish i had never trained it to begin with.

 

 

Please, for the love of god, allow us to set our skills back to zero. Maybe some sort of place in the bank where you can trade your xp for rewards, or heck, even just the ability to remove the exp at all would be a blessing. I'm just tired of running into a battle, proud of the level i've achieved, only to see that it's wrong.

 

Not only that, but a great deal of poeple i've talked to have said that they wish they could just retrain their characters- that they've made them how they feel is the wrong way- and they wish they could use the money and items they have now, on their own account at a lower level. And many more, simply want to start over without losing it all to a new account.

 

 

Now, i KNOW alot of people are going to scream: BUT WHAT IF MY ACCOUNT GETS HACKED, WHAT IF THEY RESTART ALL OF MY STATS!

 

 

Being hacked is a constant danger to people who give away their ********* and accept strange emails from unknown strangers over the internet. There is nothing you can do about that, except NOT doing that.

 

That is why i proposed there be a pin system on this ability, in order to protect poeple taking foolish risks from their own mistakes.

 

The pin would be seperate from a bank pin- and would therefore- unless you told someone- be unhackable. Furthermore, jagex could easily make it so that this feature could only be activated so many times a day/week/month, or even year. So if you're just afraid of what could happen- then perhaps you shouldn't accept email attachments without an antivirus program. :P

 

 

A list is now being tabulated on Runescape's official forums under "Let us Zero our stats".

 

 

 

 

 

If you agree, please comment on it. If you're nonmember, tell me your name, and i'll add it for you. Likewise, if you respond here positively, i will add your name to the list. Thank you for your time!

[Sy_Accursed]

SNORE

First a foremost its a 126 not a 128.

 

Secondly big whoop? max all ur combat stats but summon and you get 126 still.

[Agilewave_]

SNORE

First a foremost its a 126 not a 128.

 

Secondly big whoop? max all ur combat stats but summon and you get 126 still.

 

 

 

I kindly apologize, sir, but you are mistaken. Instead of being the princely goal of 126, i would be 128. Which, thought it wouldn't matter to you, matters to me a great deal. You will learn, over the course of life, that some things matter more to others than they do to you. It's a sad thing, maybe. But definately necessary.

 

Indeed, in the poll options- i have provided not only MY reason for wanting to zero my stat- but other ACTUALLY VOUCHED FOR REASONS by other people. If you'd like to take it up with them, you are more than welcome to.

[Sy_Accursed]

It says a lot about you that you find the need to try and belittle and insult me veiled in politeness with commentary on how peoples opinions differ; when you are doing so simply because my opinion differs from yours.

 

Also your arguments is entirely flawed if you want to "maintain a 128" without summoning involved. As the maximum combat without summoning always was and still is lvl 126. Summoning adds 12 extra levels taking the total to 138.

[Bladewing]

where's the "do not want" option

 

i'd rather not some hacker zero out all my stats

 

also lol at everything OP says about summoning

[Agilewave_]

where's the "do not want" option

 

i'd rather not some hacker zero out all my stats

 

also lol at everything OP says about summoning

 

 

Please read the thread before responding. It says in it:

 

Now, i KNOW alot of people are going to scream: BUT WHAT IF MY ACCOUNT GETS HACKED, WHAT IF THEY RESTART ALL OF MY STATS!

 

 

Being hacked is a constant danger to people who give away their ********* and accept strange emails from unknown strangers over the internet. There is nothing you can do about that, except NOT doing that.

 

That is why i proposed there be a pin system on this ability, in order to protect poeple taking foolish risks from their own mistakes.

 

The pin would be seperate from a bank pin- and would therefore- unless you told someone- be unhackable. Furthermore, jagex could easily make it so that this feature could only be activated so many times a day/week/month, or even year. So if you're just afraid of what could happen- then perhaps you shouldn't accept email attachments without an antivirus program. :P

 

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Also, sy, i must apologize, but you are again mistaken. A good read of the thread would help you as well. It says 126 :D Furthermore, on a members world, if you have summoning, it adds immediately to your level, thus your level when you are on a members world with summoning and 99 in all combat stats is NOT 126. But i must honestly admit i am quite surprised you believe i'm attempting to insult you. Indeed, i never meant to convey anything but the most sincere hopes of a reformation within your strange and varied viewpoint. But i am so glad you stopped by to re-register your opinion, it's a wonderful world, isnt it? :D

[Bouwzie]

This is what you said:

 

With the addition of summoning, i found some quests were undoable without a high summoning level. So i gained some summoning. The end result, however, was largely unsatisfactory. When i looked over my levels later that day, i found i had gained a overall combat levels, a change that will not only ruin my ability to maintain an actual 128, but now forces me to show a number which has nothing to do with my battle capabilites whatsoever, unless i'm in a free to play world.

 

That's what they are saying.

[foursideking]

Here's what the general opinion is:

 

-people who GIVE AWAY their p/w's and bank pins should learn from it

-if you make a mistake on your account, it still kinda benefits you in the longrun

-op has no idea what the heck he is talking about

 

Here's what the op's general opinion is:

 

-people who give away their p/w's should be felt sorry for

-combat maxes at 128!

-summoning is a bad thing

 

Clearly, both sides differ, with the general one being the right one. Mind you, if the op had read the previous updates, he'd know that summoning is no longer included in the overall combat level, but is rather stuck on the side now to know summoning potential.

Ie: before- maxed stats=138 combat, now- maxed stats= 126+12 combat

 

The +12, btw, having no effect on pvp...

[vettro]

This poll needs a "this entire idea is a bad option" option.

[Hegelstad]

 

KNOW alot of people are going to scream: BUT WHAT IF MY ACCOUNT GETS HACKED, WHAT IF THEY RESTART ALL OF MY STATS!

 

 

Being hacked is a constant danger to people who give away their ********* and accept strange emails from unknown strangers over the internet. There is nothing you can do about that, except NOT doing that.

 

 

You are misunderstanding the term "hacked". What you refer to is called, phised or scammed. The term "hacked" is used when you remotely gain access to a system and either extract or edit data in the victim's system, often undetectable. :ugeek: Key loggers does not go under hacking, whereas cracking would, but thats not happening, way to hard and unbenificial.

[Sy_Accursed]

 

KNOW alot of people are going to scream: BUT WHAT IF MY ACCOUNT GETS HACKED, WHAT IF THEY RESTART ALL OF MY STATS!

 

 

Being hacked is a constant danger to people who give away their ********* and accept strange emails from unknown strangers over the internet. There is nothing you can do about that, except NOT doing that.

 

 

You are misunderstanding the term "hacked". What you refer to is called, phised or scammed. The term "hacked" is used when you remotely gain access to a system and either extract or edit data in the victim's system, often undetectable. :ugeek: Key loggers does not go under hacking, whereas cracking would, but thats not happening, way to hard and unbenificial.

 

keylogging is hacking.

 

This is what falls under the umbrella of "Hacking":

Vulnerability scanner

Password cracking

Packet sniffer

Spoofing attack

Rootkit

Social engineering

Trojan horses

Viruses

Worms

Key loggers

 

obviously some of them serve other uses too; but when used in this sort of way they are hacking.

[foursideking]

The word hacking has become misused though, and for many people who don't know the meaning, they almost combine hacking and scamming into the same thing. Either way, op: read my post and only post after you do research...

[Fairness]

I find this option totally redundant, what's more, it'd even be harmful because hardcore PKers would reshape their stats on their main accounts to their liking, gaining an even greater over the (already hopeless) casual, impure PKers who just do not have the time or the will to do that, or just need their high, imperfect stats as they are.

[All_Is_Great]

Which is why you use the thing hypothetically to "zero" your defence. Also available to "impure" mains.

[Dax]

Don't see why you'd want to get rid of exp you worked to get. Seems kinda like a waste of time to me.

 

(Except for pures and stuff, where it's an accident or something)

[Southpark0o]

Just.. just no.

[Tempest_Mike]

Stats start at 1. Not 0.

[Sy_Accursed]

Also, sy, i must apologize, but you are again mistaken. A good read of the thread would help you as well. It says 126 :D Furthermore, on a members world, if you have summoning, it adds immediately to your level, thus your level when you are on a members world with summoning and 99 in all combat stats is NOT 126. But i must honestly admit i am quite surprised you believe i'm attempting to insult you. Indeed, i never meant to convey anything but the most sincere hopes of a reformation within your strange and varied viewpoint. But i am so glad you stopped by to re-register your opinion, it's a wonderful world, isnt it? :D

 

Gotta love an outright liar. This is why I like to keep quotes stored on this kinda thread; the original top post said:

 

Now, i speak only for myself and my friends, but it is my belief that i speak for a far greater collective when i bring this up.

 

I'm an old school rs player. I played back when rs2 had just begun, and since. Because of this, it has always been my dream to hit the 128 mark, and be a powerful warrior.

 

However.

 

 

With the addition of summoning, i found some quests were undoable without a high summoning level. So i gained some summoning. The end result, however, was largely unsatisfactory. When i looked over my levels later that day, i found i had gained a overall combat levels, a change that will not only ruin my ability to maintain an actual 128, but now forces me to show a number which has nothing to do with my battle capabilites whatsoever, unless i'm in a free to play world.

 

Then I pointed out the error, you told me I was mistaken even though I wasn't. Someone else pointed it out, so you editted the top post and editted a reply to try and make it look like I read wrong.

However your top post is still wrong. Notice you missed the second reference to 128.

 

No doubt you'll edit again and try and lie your way out of admitting you were wrong; which again says a lot about your character.

 

Now, i speak only for myself and my friends, but it is my belief that i speak for a far greater collective when i bring this up.

 

I'm an old school rs player. I played back when rs2 had just begun, and since. Because of this, it has always been my dream to hit the 126 mark, and be a powerful warrior.

 

However.

 

 

With the addition of summoning, i found some quests were undoable without a high summoning level. So i gained some summoning. The end result, however, was largely unsatisfactory. When i looked over my levels later that day, i found i had gained a overall combat levels, a change that will not only ruin my ability to maintain an actual 128, but now forces me to show a number which has nothing to do with my battle capabilites whatsoever, unless i'm in a free to play world.

[Instinctive]

I think it would be neat.

 

A novelty, but neat.

[SirIzenhime]

go to f2p, problem solved.

 

126 was always overrated, and 138 is now.

[Assume Nothing]

No one is holding guns at your head saying train summoning. Why does it bother you I'm really not sure

[RU_Insane]

Dear OP,

 

Please stop pulling things out of me. It's rather painful, and the conclusions you're coming to have no basis in reality.

 

Lots of love,

 

Your Ass.

[Vulxai]

If it means that much to you...start a new character. It's just a game, after all. It's not like the world is going to end because you gained an extra couple levels because you decided to level summoning on your own conscience will.

[Aiel]

go play classic if you want your perfect 126, 07prod.

MMO's change. Deal with it or get out :arrow:

[Assume Nothing]

Fallacies involved:

 

Poisoning the well (poll)

Ad hominem

Fallacy of necessity

Sweeping generalization's

Appeal to pity

False dilemma

 

I'm pretty sure there isn't much point arguing with an extremely flawed argument.

 

A - There is nothing forcing you to train summoning.

B - You don't have to do quests that require summoning to do.

C - Your 'friends' responses aren't truly representative of the rs population.

 

Etc, etc, etc.