What low level critter has a fairly good drop rate of gold charms, and what low level critter has a fairly good drop rate of crimson charms?

 

I finally decided to try summoning, and I ran into a wall. I have yet to find any good critters to farm for these charms.

 

(( I am very low lvl hunter, and slayer ))

 

EDIT: 78 att and str ... 80 def .... no special armor or weapons.

Giants and Demons.

 

Camp fire giants/moss giants for golds (idk why you want those but ok).

 

Camp greaters and black demons for crims.

 

You can cannon all 4, incidentally, so bring it if you got it.

 

Ofc, the whole waterfiends/rock lobs are best for crims thing. But that's obvious, I think.

What are your combat stats?

 

I tried both hill giants and moss giants - and it turns out that moss giants are a LOT better drop despite the higher level. Plus, I got an effigy from one :P

Nothing really drops crimsons at a "decent" drop rate. I know wiki lists a couple of monsters at like 4-5% drop rate but it's totally false.

It would help if we knew your combat stats... ¬.¬

 

But slayer helps, even at low level slayer masters like the one in Canifis or Vannacka.

Giants and Demons.

 

Camp fire giants/moss giants for golds (idk why you want those but ok).

 

Camp greaters and black demons for crims.

 

You can cannon all 4, incidentally, so bring it if you got it.

 

Ofc, the whole waterfiends/rock lobs are best for crims thing. But that's obvious, I think.

78 att and str ... 80 def

 

I want low lvls for fast drop rate. Greater and black demons would take too much time to kill, and I have never used a cannon in my life, (even though I did the quest the day it came out) due to incredibly high cost.

Giants and Demons.

 

Camp fire giants/moss giants for golds (idk why you want those but ok).

 

Camp greaters and black demons for crims.

 

You can cannon all 4, incidentally, so bring it if you got it.

 

Ofc, the whole waterfiends/rock lobs are best for crims thing. But that's obvious, I think.

78 att and str ... 80 def

 

I want low lvls for fast drop rate. Greater and black demons would take too much time to kill, and I have never used a cannon in my life, (even though I did the quest the day it came out) due to incredibly high cost.

 

That's what I thought too but it's definitely not true. Even though training on lower level monsters nets you more kills - their charm drop rate just straight up sucks.

You sshould just bring some food (you have a pretty decent gear), go to taverly and kill greater demons. They have pretty low defense and they have decent drop rates.

 

Black demons hit a LOT harder, and they're good if you can spare some cannonballs.

 

ALSO, only at lower levels ~21 or so is gold charms good (and I guess above 50ish).

The secondary for mosquitos are either extremely hard to obtain (I've been there for an hour to only get like 11) or don't sell very well on the GE.

Marigolds sell fairly (a couple every now and then) but they're 5k each.

 

Honestly, just go do slayer - wait to train summoning til you get a good amount of summoning charms. Also do that desert treasure? quest. There's one that will give you a exp lamp that can be used twice for 20k each (or 25k I'm not 100% sure). You have to get your summoning to level 30 but that shouldn't be too bad with a good amount of gold charms + iron ores.

Yeah there's no reason you can't kill greater demons. They're pretty weak. Bring super sets and a little food and you're set.

with those stats you should be doing wfs

I was able to kill waterfiends with 70 melee stats, as long as you have 43 prayer you should be good

I was able to kill waterfiends with 70 melee stats, as long as you have 43 prayer you should be good

 

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What are your combat stats?

 

I tried both hill giants and moss giants - and it turns out that moss giants are a LOT better drop despite the higher level. Plus, I got an effigy from one :P

Nothing really drops crimsons at a "decent" drop rate. I know wiki lists a couple of monsters at like 4-5% drop rate but it's totally false.

what the hell are you talking about? waterfiends have an ~85% drop rate, KBD has a ~75% drop rate for 3, it's not rare to finish a kuradal assignment with 80+ crimson charms.

 

 

with those stats you should be doing wfs

this, or cannoning black demons, if you bank the ashes (70+ agility reccomended), you break even, and average ~70 crimsons per hour, and an effigy every ~2 hours.

What are your combat stats?

 

I tried both hill giants and moss giants - and it turns out that moss giants are a LOT better drop despite the higher level. Plus, I got an effigy from one :P

Nothing really drops crimsons at a "decent" drop rate. I know wiki lists a couple of monsters at like 4-5% drop rate but it's totally false.

what the hell are you talking about? waterfiends have an ~85% drop rate, KBD has a ~75% drop rate for 3, it's not rare to finish a kuradal assignment with 80+ crimson charms.

 

 

with those stats you should be doing wfs

this, or cannoning black demons, if you bank the ashes (70+ agility reccomended), you break even, and average ~70 crimsons per hour, and an effigy every ~2 hours.

 

What the hell are YOU on about?

If you read the op's post - he was looking for a LOW level critter to kill. LOW-LEVEL.

I was in his shoes a few days ago - rather then going for high level monsters which would take longer to kill - I decided that I would kill low leveled monsters because while the drop rate is lower, I can kill multiple lower leveled monsters then one high leveled one.

 

It DOESN'T work, there's nothing thats low level that has a good green/crimson/blue drop rate and the rates on wiki are totally wrong for some of the slayer monsters.

Get off my back, and please read the whole thread before contributing.

What are your combat stats?

 

I tried both hill giants and moss giants - and it turns out that moss giants are a LOT better drop despite the higher level. Plus, I got an effigy from one :P

Nothing LOW LEVEL really drops crimsons at a "decent" drop rate. I know wiki lists a couple of monsters at like 4-5% drop rate but it's totally false.

 

That would of fixed any confusion and the ensuing counter qq,

I'd go with black demons, you can use the ranged xp, the melee xp isn't bad either, you break-even or profit, you get effigies, and the crimsons are some of the best (if not THE best) you can do. Since you protect from melee anyway, it's also fairly relaxed.

OK after killing a bunch of different critters suggested here ...

 

Since I really haven't played RS in over 5 years, I have no idea what a waterfiend is... so I skipped that.

Looked around for greater demons, but couldn't find any that were easy to get at that weren't in the wildy, so I skipped them

 

Lesser demons have a bad drop rate ... black demons have a bad drop rate, though I could only kill 9 before running out of food. Blue dragons take way too much food.

 

I went around and experimented with tons of different critters, and found that Hill Giants have a great drop rate for gold charms, and using ring of wealth almost doubles my chances of getting one from them.

^ As I said before gold charms sound reasonable on paper but if you factor in how slowly you get exp - it's really not worth it.

 

Grab some sharks, some potions, 1k cash or so, and a hatchet.

Head to Brimhaven Dungeons. There are a few greater demons there - the first 10-15 minutes may be annoying from the constant attack from the dogs but if you position yourself when you're fighting - most of the time, you can get a greater demon to aggro you as soon as you kill one. They have decent drops, you can high alch most of their drops for a decent profit.

Ring of wealth does not affect charm drops. You probably just got lucky or were unlucky before.

 

Don't tank black demons. Pray melee. To tank them you need much higher melee stats, at least a bunyip, and SGS/EE/Soul Split.

 

Have you tried the level 83-ish cockroaches? I've heard those are good but I've never been there personally. They're f2p too so in p2p they should be a breeze.

Given that at the moment you're 17 Summoning, you can really just gather and level to around 32 using gold charms (granite crabs, from memory, are not terrible in this level range)

As for monsters to hunt for crimsons, around your level range you can kill greaters, as mentioned, or really just run a few attempts at waterfiends. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. If you get like a really lousy number of kills per trip then we'll strike that off the list and think of something else.

You could also do dusties in the chaos tunnels I guess. Although I would prefer greater or black demons.

 

But to be honest I would just grind slayer. You will build up a nice collection of charms automatically this way.

It's in the wildy, but earth warriors are a great source for crimson charms for low levels.

What are your combat stats?

 

I tried both hill giants and moss giants - and it turns out that moss giants are a LOT better drop despite the higher level. Plus, I got an effigy from one :P

Nothing really drops crimsons at a "decent" drop rate. I know wiki lists a couple of monsters at like 4-5% drop rate but it's totally false.

what the hell are you talking about? waterfiends have an ~85% drop rate, KBD has a ~75% drop rate for 3, it's not rare to finish a kuradal assignment with 80+ crimson charms.

 

 

with those stats you should be doing wfs

this, or cannoning black demons, if you bank the ashes (70+ agility reccomended), you break even, and average ~70 crimsons per hour, and an effigy every ~2 hours.

 

What the hell are YOU on about?

If you read the op's post - he was looking for a LOW level critter to kill. LOW-LEVEL.

I was in his shoes a few days ago - rather then going for high level monsters which would take longer to kill - I decided that I would kill low leveled monsters because while the drop rate is lower, I can kill multiple lower leveled monsters then one high leveled one.

 

It DOESN'T work, there's nothing thats low level that has a good green/crimson/blue drop rate and the rates on wiki are totally wrong for some of the slayer monsters.

Get off my back, and please read the whole thread before contributing.

I was unaware that 80 melee stats qualifies you to only kill low level monsters :rolleyes:

 

@OP, you pray melee+piety or 10% strength on black demons with a cannon, there easily the best charms p/h at your stats the drop rate is around 45%, and with your stats you can kill 200+ per hour, for ~90 crimson charms+an effigy every 2 and a half hours, while breaking even if you bank the ashes (70+ agility required to bank ashes effectively).

 

I wouldn't really recommend anything else with your stats if all you want is charms. Don't bother hunting for golds/greens/blues, golds give to little xp, greens cost to much, and blues have to low of a drop rate.

First of all "low level" is relative. The three best "low level" options for crimsons are shadow warriors in the legends guild basement, dust devils, and greater demons.

 

If you can use crimson charms you shouldn't ever be using anything else until you can make geyser titans with your blues. Any greens or golds should be left on the floor as the exp is poor and any familiars you want to make with them would be cheaper on the GE.

 

Again, if you can pray there's no reason to not do waterfiends. And just because you don't know what they are doesn't mean you should skip even considering them, look it up. It only takes 10 seconds. But because I love you (no homo) i did it for you

 

http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Waterfiend

 

Cheers!

4.2 Gold Charms = 1 Crimson charm

3 Green Charms = 1 Crimson charm

1 Blue Charm = 2 Crimson charms

 

There is nothing wrong with collecting golds & greens, the above figures are for the BULK part of summoning XP. 80-96 or so.

 

Also at lower levels Crimsons ARE NOT always best, at around 20 summoning, the ratio of XP from gold to Crimson is 1:2, not 1:4, also you have to take into costs of lower levelled secondaries, they might be something dodgy and cost a lot more than 10gp/xp (although the amount of XP you will be getting won't end up costing you much gp, even at those rates)

 

It's typically accepted that for the bulk of summoning xp crimsons are the best, but with using your other charms correctly, there are uses for golds & greens.

 

TLDR: Golds are NOT bad at your level & prior to 65 summoning or so.

they are not bad to use at those levels

 

but it's certainly bad to gather them specifically

 

another good low level option (which OP should NOT do, OP should do wfs or rock lobsters) is cockroaches