so jagex lied

[Jake_Corsair]

I'm on the side of the poster's about the time and amount of work it would take to do these projects. Maybe something came up and they had to resolve that first, rather than going ahead and releasing it and giving you yet another reason to whine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You quote a post by Jagex stating that carpentry and POHs will be out by the end of the year. But then you don't post anything about how they lied. How do you know they truly didn't think it could be out by then. Jagex was wrong about the time frame, but you can't say they lied about it.

[adthegreat-]

 

 

My assumption is that there is a SMALL chance that it might come out on the 3rd of January, since that's when the christmas update dissapears, but then again mabye not. But all in all i expect a update on that date since they've been dry on updates for a week or two.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why the third of january? most updates happen on mondays which is the second :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Uk system

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

New years day = bank holiday aka jagex no work

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

new years day was sunday so bank holiday lags to next working day aka monday

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so Jagex won't be in until the 3rd

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hence y they said the xmas update is coming down on the 3rd when they put it up

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He's right, Monday 2nd January = Bank Holiday. If they are going to update its going to be tomorrow.

[slicer92]

OMG!!! JAGEX LIED11111

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

seriously, cut them some slack, ur lucky to have weekly updates let alone HUGE weekly updates like this.

 

 

 

If i were you i would stop complaining, theres only so much these people can do so just have patience and im sure they will be added in plenty of time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

remember, patience is a virtue.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weekly updates that suck.80% of the updates only benefit players level 85 and below.The last good quest we got was Desert Treasure if im not mistaken,which was months ago.

[sk8ermaster]

i believe its to late for an update today, and whoever said dont be on jaqexs back, they have promised pohs a few times, and they cant stick to it...screw them

[Lep]

Yea, wth is with them not doing an update for the second week now. Didn't they say the Christmas stuff will be removed today?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, it was usually an update when I got home from school at 3pm eastern, and it's only Lunch right now. So let's wait. :wink:

[Shiva]

When January 1 falls on a Sunday, the day after, Monday, also becomes a holiday. This is maybe the reason why Jagex hasn't updated anything today..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, no biggie for me, really. I could care less about PoHs and Carpentry. :\

[Y2g2003]

I'm on the side of the poster's about the time and amount of work it would take to do these projects. Maybe something came up and they had to resolve that first, rather than going ahead and releasing it and giving you yet another reason to whine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You quote a post by Jagex stating that carpentry and POHs will be out by the end of the year. But then you don't post anything about how they lied. How do you know they truly didn't think it could be out by then. Jagex was wrong about the time frame, but you can't say they lied about it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think some players main gripe is just that really.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They announced a big addition at the beginning of the RS2 launch. For all we know, that addition probably wasn't even started the day it was announced to be released that year. So for about two years now... Some players have been strung along thinking they're getting POHs each and every month, only to end up in total disappointment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was glad to see Farming come out. I think that in itself should've been a dead give away for people to know that POHs wouldn't be out in 2005.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The point being... Jagex shouldn't have announced Farming, Carpentry, or POHs at all. It was a really bad business decision because it ruins their credability to a point.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think we all know that stuff happens that delays certain updates, but missing certain updates for 2 years and counting? It shouldn't have ever been mentioned at the beginning of RS2, let alone in RSC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And if they were to have announced those updates... They should have made it perfectly clear that those things were only "in concept" and that they might not make it into the game the same year in which they announced it. But instead... we get the same line of BS every year. Then as the year gets later... they change what they say. :?

[jessy87]

who cares, its a house?

[Sy_Accursed]

the point about thier creadbility is true

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think they will eventually come, and some how I think after they od Jagex will not lay such long term hints, only the month behind the scenes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

even if a couple of the random events listed in the july i think it was behind the scenes never materialised

[trunksrs]

for those who remember, jagex posted up date while back about PoH and Carpentry coming out before end of year. well it is now 2006 and still not out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PLEASE NOTE:

 

 

 

We have seperated Farming from Player-Owned Houses in order to bring it to you sooner. Player Owned Houses are still being worked on along with the Carpentry skill for release towards the end of this year - Honestly! :-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

now i don't have anything against jagex , but they don't need to make a promise when they aren't able to forfill it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not the first time they were behind schedule........ Anywho, they will probably add an update when they take out the christmas event. That seems to have been the course of holiday events lately.

[m0dus]

Ok so I can't find the staff list anymore, but I know for a fact that back in CLASSIC Jagex already had at least 10 people working for them (remember the staff paintball pic anyone?). So with the exponential increase of revenue from rs2, on top of rs2's engine being way more flexible and easy to work with, I find that 1 update per week is not only a little skimpy, its downright slack. Do you honestly think that 10 people worked 8 hours a day for a week to bring you frickin' RAT PITS?! They DON'T work that hard. It would be clear that if they could make a huge update in a week such as barrows or farming or any other big update, then they are slacking off by releasing these dinky updates like Rat Pits.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So basically what I'm saying is they can't possibly work very hard all the time over at Jagex, although who knows, maybe they released rat pits cause they were working on carpentry? Who knows, who cares, it's going to be useless anyway.

[gotsol]

jagex lied again, im getting used to it oh well

[Y2g2003]

the point about thier creadbility is true

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think they will eventually come, and some how I think after they od Jagex will not lay such long term hints, only the month behind the scenes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

even if a couple of the random events listed in the july i think it was behind the scenes never materialised

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed, and hopefully they are learning from mistakes and those same mistakes wont happen again. The origional way in which they were announcing upcoming updates was just on too big of a scale.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I think everything is materialising... its just that some people aren't showing as much intrest in those updates. I think everything thats been stated in that origional news article will eventually be released. Its just a matter of when.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This year alone, I honestly feel will at least have the release of summoning and POHs. Summoning has been heavily teased lately and chances are it is either complete or close to being complete (maybe testing it for bugs). And chances are they probably already have a good idea of when they actually want to release it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok so I can't find the staff list anymore, but I know for a fact that back in CLASSIC Jagex already had at least 10 people working for them (remember the staff paintball pic anyone?). So with the exponential increase of revenue from rs2, on top of rs2's engine being way more flexible and easy to work with, I find that 1 update per week is not only a little skimpy, its downright slack. Do you honestly think that 10 people worked 8 hours a day for a week to bring you frickin' RAT PITS?! They DON'T work that hard. It would be clear that if they could make a huge update in a week such as barrows or farming or any other big update, then they are slacking off by releasing these dinky updates like Rat Pits.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who said RS2s engine was easier to work with? NO ONE. They simply said that the possibilities with the engine would be of a greater quality and would allow them to bring out updates that they couldn't on RSC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One update a week is great considering we only had one update a month on RSC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And who are you to say how long Jagex have been working on said updates? Barrows and Farming took a hell of a lot long then a week to code and to work in the imagry. You must be pretty ignorant about the processes of programming if you think that stuff only took a week to create. :roll:

[reddawn509]

no see wut they really meant was the end of the year of 2006 :lol: i forgot about that.....jagex is falling behind :?

[voodoo_josh]

Maybe it could come out on the 3rd?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Afterall, thats when they said they're removing the christmas randoms, so there must be an update then. And they have also had the whole year, and the past 2 weeks to work on it? You never know, it may come tomorrow, but I agree with you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They shouldn't post something like that saying it will be out before the years end then don't make it.

[Outsanity]

Oh God...HOW did I know this was another topic whining about Player Houses and Carpentry before I even clicked it? How DID I know? :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe if you read and comprehended what Jagex wrote, you might take this from it:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They said TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR. This doesn't mean it has to take place in the Year 2005. All it means is that it takes place TOWARDS the END of year 2005. So, to me, this includes the first month or two of Year 2006 as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honestly...you guys are just so impatient and WHINEY. If it comes out, it comes out. If it doesn't, it doesn't. Go train some existing skills while you wait...really. lol

[dwarfie76]

Ok so I can't find the staff list anymore, but I know for a fact that back in CLASSIC Jagex already had at least 10 people working for them (remember the staff paintball pic anyone?). So with the exponential increase of revenue from rs2, on top of rs2's engine being way more flexible and easy to work with, I find that 1 update per week is not only a little skimpy, its downright slack. Do you honestly think that 10 people worked 8 hours a day for a week to bring you frickin' RAT PITS?! They DON'T work that hard. It would be clear that if they could make a huge update in a week such as barrows or farming or any other big update, then they are slacking off by releasing these dinky updates like Rat Pits.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So basically what I'm saying is they can't possibly work very hard all the time over at Jagex, although who knows, maybe they released rat pits cause they were working on carpentry? Who knows, who cares, it's going to be useless anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And you're a software developer are you? You know how much work is involved in designing, scoping, developing, testing and releasing major functionality changes to software used by hundreds of thousands of people do you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And before you ask... yes I am and yes I do. And, from what I've seen, Jagex work very hard indeed to bring out the updates they do. So either quit whining, or grab a textbook and learn how to do it better.

[hohto]

They were first supposed to come in 2001. Still haven't seen them. Even tho I'm a bit sceptical (I believe in them when I get my own house), I'd rather wait for a fully tested PoH system and not get some buggy and useless update.

[m0dus]

Who said RS2s engine was easier to work with? NO ONE. They simply said that the possibilities with the engine would be of a greater quality and would allow them to bring out updates that they couldn't on RSC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One update a week is great considering we only had one update a month on RSC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And who are you to say how long Jagex have been working on said updates? Barrows and Farming took a hell of a lot long then a week to code and to work in the imagry. You must be pretty ignorant about the processes of programming if you think that stuff only took a week to create. :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, they DID say it was easier to work with. Didn't you clue in when you said we are getting 1 update per week instead of per month? Hmm... wonder why?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Second, of course updates may have taken many weeks from the idea to the reality, but they were still putting updates out weekly, and some of them more weak than others. So what were they doing during the weak ones? POH? Carpentry? I don't see it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

edit: not that any of this matters to me anyway, they havn't put out an update which I have completed or taken part in for months now, so I'm kind of past the point of caring.

[dwarfie76]

Second, of course updates may have taken many weeks from the idea to the reality, but they were still putting updates out weekly, and some of them more weak than others. So what were they doing during the weak ones? POH? Carpentry? I don't see it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you said yourself... just because an update is released approximately weekly doesn't mean that each update only takes one week to complete.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Further to that... Just because an update doesn't appear to contain a lot of functionality - or was 'weak' in your estimation - doesn't mean it wasn't difficult and time-consuming to accomplish, or that other concerns may have taken time away from that project for a while.

[i_m_darkness]

 

for those who remember, jagex posted up date while back about PoH and Carpentry coming out before end of year. well it is now 2006 and still not out.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PLEASE NOTE:

 

 

 

We have seperated Farming from Player-Owned Houses in order to bring it to you sooner. Player Owned Houses are still being worked on along with the Carpentry skill for release towards the end of this year - Honestly! :-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

now i don't have anything against jagex , but they don't need to make a promise when they aren't able to forfill it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I cannot see any date for it :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol..can't read?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ontopic: well...that's mostly the players fault I believe.

 

 

 

If everyone wouldn't be asking about it all the time, they wouldn't be forced to make promisses. If someone were to ask you for something every day, you're bound to say something just to sush them.

 

 

 

I am NOT saying you are one of those people, but think about the thousands of mid-lvl members in RS. I'd bet all of them have had the idea before:

 

 

 

'ooh, I got a great idea! I'll send a query to Jagex asking when Carpentry finally is going to be released! I bet no one has ever thought of that!'

 

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see the InBoxes of RS CustomerSupport filled with these kind of queries EVERY SINGLE DAY.

[gen199]

It is better if they dont rush into putting a skill into rs w\o making it exactly how they want it to be. :roll:

[tq_69er]

just thing how about how much time they have put into it.. means its going to be better..

[Peronix]

When I saw your vauge title, I knew exactly what it was about. I just knew someone was going to complain about this. Remember, they said "Towards the end of the year". That is open to some interpretation, as they didn't give any relative date. So, towards the end of the year could mean slightly before or slightly after the end of the year. Or, mabye Jagex didn't get it done in time. It happens all the time - just look at how many times the release date of "Zelda: Twilight Princess" has been pushed back!

[kwimbob]

just thing how about how much time they have put into it.. means its going to be better..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or at least it means it will look good.... Farming took a while though it wasn't all that fun, but at least it was complete (even though it was slightly rushed and had a few buggy ways to very easily train it).