Investigating the Wise Old Man

[Xewleer]

aaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhh!!!!!!stop people! =; maybe jagex havent even had any ideas about WOM and are just adding some clues every once in a while and then they'll make up something and get a quest/mini game or something else related to all the clues!! they probably dont know what the WOM is supposed to be!! i have read many theories and ideas and thoughts of people and i think you are just getting paranoid! i even saw 1 post of a guy saying he went to the wizard tower and started checkign portriats and examining beds! just think for a second! you realy think jagex put so much thought into this :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: i dont they have a site to maintain updates to add quests to think of and lots more i think in a year or so they will just make up a story and well...im started to repeat what i said before any way just forget about all the theories and play the game waiting to what will happend thats it! :x instead of thinking everything though there can be million possible theories :-k so just forget about it :

 

 

 

We won't, we can't! We will figure out this twisted, convoluted plot line. Jagex has set all this up for a reason! Maybe they want someone to figure it out! And we are gonna reap the satisfaction first! Oh yeah! And there cannot be a million theories, we haven't has more than 10 big theories so far.

 

 

 

Also: I found multiple saradominist carpet thingies that Randox showed pictures of in Sophanem. they come in Brown, White and red, All of the people there are most likely not Saradominist, they worship people like Icthlarin, god of the dead.

[flava0falcon]

aaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhh!!!!!!stop people! =; maybe jagex havent even had any ideas about WOM and are just adding some clues every once in a while and then they'll make up something and get a quest/mini game or something else related to all the clues!! they probably dont know what the WOM is supposed to be!! i have read many theories and ideas and thoughts of people and i think you are just getting paranoid! i even saw 1 post of a guy saying he went to the wizard tower and started checkign portriats and examining beds! just think for a second! you realy think jagex put so much thought into this :?: :!: :?: :!: :?: i dont they have a site to maintain updates to add quests to think of and lots more i think in a year or so they will just make up a story and well...im started to repeat what i said before any way just forget about all the theories and play the game waiting to what will happend thats it! :x instead of thinking everything though there can be million possible theories :-k so just forget about it :

 

 

 

We won't, we can't! We will figure out this twisted, convoluted plot line. Jagex has set all this up for a reason! Maybe they want someone to figure it out! And we are gonna reap the satisfaction first! Oh yeah! And there cannot be a million theories, we haven't has more than 10 big theories so far.

 

 

 

Also: I found multiple saradominist carpet thingies that Randox showed pictures of in Sophanem. they come in Brown, White and red, All of the people there are most likely not Saradominist, they worship people like Icthlarin, god of the dead.

 

i didnt say there are 1 million theories i said you can think of atleast 1 million posibble theories if you try hard enough...i can just make up 1 right now...here is 1 i just thought of:

 

the sandwich lady and party pete are 2 evil gods that cooperate with WOM and want to destroy saradomin because........he is not really saradomin and real saradomin is trapped in time! see? its not so hard it most probably isnt true ofcours but its not hard making up theories and i can make million more if i want i just dont see a reason since there are so many options and NPCs etc...

[KingWenlok]

flava0falcon- We do this investigation purely because we receive enjoyment from it. Your post could be considered discouraging towards our hard working team members, and as such we do not welcome posts like yours. IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CURRENT THEORIES, THEN DO NOT POST! It's that simple, yet people fail to understand that.

 

 

 

The article also says that Dionysius of Alexandria sought to eliminate heresy within the early Christian church. I've been keeping this to myself for awhile now, but I've been having feelings that WOM sees the wizards in the tower as heretics, because they've accepted a known Zamorakian into their circle, or because they may or may not be meddling with the powers of summoning. Who knows? :-k

 

If the WOM can prove that they are heretics, then he may not even need to invade the Tower. He could just slowly bring them down from within, and would easily gain the favour of Saradomin. Also, if he acts like a good boy and prevents the secrets of summoning being further used, Saradomin will be very happy that the WOM prevented mortals from knowing how to do it. He could also be plotting to defeat the mourners in their plans to bring Zamorak back to Gielinor, which would further Saradomin's delights in the WOM's accomplishments. So, the Black Knights could just be a Plan B, or last resort. Oh and by the way, Dionysius' (the god) other name was Bacchus, so if that rings any bells, don't hesitate to put your thoughts forward. :wink:

[KCHughes]

Oh yeah!

 

 

 

Oh yeah! :mrgreen:

 

 

 

Another thought: What about the political repercussions of the king of Varrock being a member of a heetical society? I didn't consider that before.

[KingWenlok]

Oh yeah! :mrgreen:

 

We r teh uber p3wnzors!!!!! :mrgreen:

 

 

 

Another thought: What about the political repercussions of the king of Varrock being a member of a heetical society? I didn't consider that before.

 

Well, Varrock being primarily Saradominist (I say primarily as it's sort of a mixed Zamorakian/Saradominist city), the people would be slightly disappointed that their king is part of a society filled with heretics. So I think we might have to wave bye bye to King Roald...

[Trobigod]

One more point to the person who made that lame post about one million theories. Sure you can put up many theories, but how do you prove that it's even remotely possible?

 

 

 

Would like to know if you can prove your Sandwhich Lady and Party Pete theory, since you're the one who brought it up.

[mememe513]

Oh yeah!

 

 

 

Oh yeah! :mrgreen:

 

 

 

Another thought: What about the political repercussions of the king of Varrock being a member of a heretical society? I didn't consider that before.

 

Wasn't there a member's quest(What lies below) recently released involving a secret society that had members like Zaff the staff salesman?

 

It had you fighting King Roald under spell, but still :-k

[flava0falcon]

One more point to the person who made that lame post about one million theories. Sure you can put up many theories, but how do you prove that it's even remotely possible?

 

 

 

Would like to know if you can prove your Sandwhich Lady and Party Pete theory, since you're the one who brought it up.

 

i do not think that theory was right i just said i think its pointless making up theories since you can have so many theories and there are too many options and NPCs that can be related in one way or another to WOM

[flava0falcon]

Oh yeah!

 

 

 

Oh yeah! :mrgreen:

 

 

 

Another thought: What about the political repercussions of the king of Varrock being a member of a heretical society? I didn't consider that before.

 

Wasn't there a member's quest(What lies below) recently released involving a secret society that had members like Zaff the staff salesman?

 

It had you fighting King Roald under spell, but still :-k

 

zaff was helping to stop them he is not part of them...i mean not stop them stop that mage in the library but if you talk to the guys in tehre one of them is nice and when you tell him you didnt think he would be nice sicne he is a zamorakian he says not everything is what it seems...could alos be related to WOM which proves what i said was right and you can have million theories and none of them be the right one and jagex probably didnt even make up a story for WOM yet

[Xewleer]

I'm going to say this once, Leave this topic if you have nothing to add, we don't need this kind of negativity, when we are in hiatus from any mind blowing discovery.

 

 

 

 

 

Well, it looks like that the histories will be given at monday or tuesday, gotta keep myself patient. BTW, Bob is Robert the Strong I'm doing a tail of two cats right now.

 

 

 

About the heretical King of Varrock. In the Quest, what lies below, he is taken over and possessed by a magician named Surok Magis. Now all those of the clan/guild thing that Surok is in all have first and last names of a strange nature. So does the guy who advises the King... starting to see my logic?

 

 

 

In Darkness of Hallowvale, the advisor (can't even begin to spell his name) prevented the King from sending troops, rather, he says he needs t review Guthixian edicts. But he also has a different version of the stuff that the Zamorackian mages wore. So I think that the King is already at least unconsiously controlled.

[KCHughes]

I'm going to say this once, Leave this topic if you have nothing to add, we don't need this kind of negativity, when we are in hiatus from any mind blowing discovery.

 

 

 

[Oddball from Kelly's Heroes]Quit with the negative waves, baby![/Oddball]

 

 

 

About the heretical King of Varrock. In the Quest, what lies below, he is taken over and possessed by a magician named Surok Magis. Now all those of the clan/guild thing that Surok is in all have first and last names of a strange nature. So does the guy who advises the King... starting to see my logic?

 

 

 

I may be mistaken here, but I kind of remember that there was some kind of note/letter that you had to deliver, and it was encrypted into some weird language. Someone in Tip.It translated it, but maybe Surok Magis can be translated, too, along with all those other names. Anyone want to find out? I may go to an anagram site later and try some of the names.

 

 

 

We know the Varrock Palace has a secret guard from the same quest, but we don't really know their purpose yet.

[flava0falcon]

I'm going to say this once, Leave this topic if you have nothing to add, we don't need this kind of negativity, when we are in hiatus from any mind blowing discovery.

 

 

 

[Oddball from Kelly's Heroes]Quit with the negative waves, baby![/Oddball]

 

 

 

About the heretical King of Varrock. In the Quest, what lies below, he is taken over and possessed by a magician named Surok Magis. Now all those of the clan/guild thing that Surok is in all have first and last names of a strange nature. So does the guy who advises the King... starting to see my logic?

 

 

 

I may be mistaken here, but I kind of remember that there was some kind of note/letter that you had to deliver, and it was encrypted into some weird language. Someone in Tip.It translated it, but maybe Surok Magis can be translated, too, along with all those other names. Anyone want to find out? I may go to an anagram site later and try some of the names.

 

 

 

We know the Varrock Palace has a secret guard from the same quest, but we don't really know their purpose yet.

 

in the quest "what lies below" you have to join them because you have to arrest that mage in the library (forgot his name) and you cant arrest someone if you are not a guard i can try asking the guards in the palace (since ive done the quest) and see if i get get any info about them pm me if you want me to

[Xewleer]

the secret guard is basically there to protect the king.

 

 

 

Also, I did a bit of talking to the WOM, he seems to be following my exploits, its quite disturbing.

[skreeran1]

About the heretical King of Varrock. In the Quest, what lies below, he is taken over and possessed by a magician named Surok Magis. Now all those of the clan/guild thing that Surok is in all have first and last names of a strange nature. So does the guy who advises the King... starting to see my logic?

 

 

 

I may be mistaken here, but I kind of remember that there was some kind of note/letter that you had to deliver, and it was encrypted into some weird language. Someone in Tip.It translated it, but maybe Surok Magis can be translated, too, along with all those other names. Anyone want to find out? I may go to an anagram site later and try some of the names.

 

 

 

We know the Varrock Palace has a secret guard from the same quest, but we don't really know their purpose yet.

 

 

 

I translated it! Yay me!

[Xewleer]

could you post it here then?

 

 

 

Also, Surok Magis destroyed it using pretty darn powerful magic.

[KCHughes]

I translated it! Yay me!

 

 

 

Oh, I forgot you did that. Yay you!

 

 

 

And why is WOM stalking Xewleer? :P

[Darkluniux]

I translated it! Yay me!

 

 

 

Oh, I forgot you did that. Yay you!

 

 

 

And why is WOM stalking Xewleer? :P

 

 

 

After about an hour of cryptography, this is what I got of Rat's Letter:

 

 

 

Surok Magis,

 

 

 

You actions are being watched. We know what you are trying to do and the VPSG will stop you! Do not attempt to leave the palace or you will be arrested on sight. We will not hesitate to kill you if you disobey King Roald's orders.

 

 

 

Rat

 

Burgiss

 

 

 

Not very much interesting but well... Gonna see if I can post the letter with the symbols to see if they have relation to other runescape symbols and we might find some sort of patron that reveals itself the signifiance of the life, why the sky is blue, why the toats ever falls in the butter side and all those secrets...

[Omar]

I found this in the RSOF, about Some rocks that look likeÃÆÃââââ‰â¬Å

 

A sun/mind rune, cracked in the middle.

 

a wave spell

 

A lunar teleport

 

Ancient magicks.

 

Apparently, you can only see it on the mini-map.

 

 

 

ive just gone there for research

 

if the broken stone is a mind symbol, then find someone in runescape who is with broken mind, possibly insane, or with multiple personalities?

 

possibly a man who has no soul, possibly a man who breaks the boundaries of the mind, a man who has no sense of what he is doing is wrong a man who, because ofsaradomin would be considered wise maybe his is also old and so has a slightly broken mind, a man who steals thing like MIND runes if you show them to him, and a man who must have broken mind because he expect you to have poisonous cadava berries in your bank for some reason, and he wants them, perhaps he is good with his mind and thinks up devious plots, for which he need to be able to see far away places, usng mayebe a telescope, pointiing at a place full of runes, whilst living south of falador, and near the standing stones and who is also keeping his telescope on someone who can teleport him to a place to get something from which he can create mind runes, maybe he plans to create a new combination of runes, mand and matter (body)

 

or extendminds to use spells more powerful than waves, but only to him, so he can get cheaprunes and do mega damage, and he wants these cheap runes becauseeven though he is rich (maybe he has full of a god armor?) he is cheap and is the type who would go round robbing banks...hmm? who could it be? The twisted man planning to do something with these ancient grounds, maybe this man is already suspected by the security guards of his town for crimes, and maybe he is bestowed with godly powers, and gives you a blessing for your help, can you have a guess who may have a broken mind and be called by the stone of mind!!!

 

Filmaker1

 

 

 

 

 

17-Apr-2007 20:28:50

 

im not saying this man did it but i bet he is involved maybe im wrong, but i suspect, as you probably guessed who i was talking about...

 

Filmaker1

 

 

 

 

 

17-Apr-2007 20:29:23

 

the culprit is...godzilla!

 

Filmaker1

 

 

 

 

 

17-Apr-2007 20:30:19

 

lol joke i think the wise old man will take an interest ion these rocks and try to use there power (greedy idiot, why not just retire?)

 

 

 

And, the toast falls on the buttered part because you butter it on the wrong side :thumbsup:

[Omar]

sorry everyone ignore this post

[mememe513]

New Postbag from the Hedge, contains letter to WOM:

 

Dear Wise Old Man,

 

 

 

In my recent learnings of math, a level of which I'd hope you'd know, being wise and all, I came to wonder what the width of Runescape, if it were truly round like a sphere, was.

 

 

 

First I collected my data. Using a sextant, watch, and chart I found that there are 32 paces to a degree. Then, setting up my formula for finding the arc length of a circle,

 

 

 

Keeping up with me?

 

 

 

Then, I converted 1 degree into radian measures, or pi/180.

 

 

 

The formula was now this:

 

32 paces = pi/180 x r (radius in paces)

 

 

 

I divided both sides by pi/180, and got roughly 1833 paces for the radius of Runescape, if it were in fact truly round like a sphere.

 

 

 

So, the circumference of Runescape, at 0 degrees, should be roughly 11,500 paces. The surface area would be roughly 42,200,000 paces. I'm sure not even a third of that is being used at the moment.

 

 

 

So... my question is this: Where is it all? Surely you must know...

 

 

 

~Gogetagss~

 

And this is the reply

Dear Adventurer Gogetagss,

 

 

 

Yes, yes, I can see what you're saying but ignoring the inaccuracies (you're 20 paces off)... Of course, these calculations only work because RuneScape is spherical - some planes are spade-shaped; how are you going to figure them out, eh?

 

 

 

Anyway, what exactly was your question? "Where is it all?" Well, clearly it's there, it exists. Your mathematics proves it, if it wasn't we'd all be floating off into the air due to the distinct lack of mass needed for gravity to work. A while ago I had a thought along these lines so I constructed some boots covered in glue and started stockpiling rubber bands, just in case. They're around here somewhere...

 

 

 

Anyway, just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't there. The mere fact that you are breathing that clear transparent stuff proves this. I mean, you can't see the back of your own head, but you're fairly sure it's there, aren't you?

 

 

 

In the interests of Science, I did organise for a level two man from Lumbridge to begin testing your theory of the circumference. In the last letter I got he was heading into Morytania. I haven't heard from him in a while; I wonder what happened.

 

 

 

Was there anything else? I'm very busy, you know: things to do, plans to make, schemes to act out.

[Trobigod]

mememe513, that's my point exactly, especially the last line with the scheming, planning and such. Either Jagex is messing with us or they have began updating WOM story... hmm or maybe there is a third option.

 

 

 

EDIT: Hope you like my avatar, it ain't changing in a while. (If someone has something against it, feel free to duel me...)

[KCHughes]

April has come and gone, and still no update to the histories. I'm disappointed.

 

 

 

I noticed that WOM mentioned that he had "schemes to act out," obviously we know what that means. :P Maybe June or July can be a WOM-themed month. I'll bet that they're updating the storyline, its just not ready for release yet.

[bloody_scife]

Hmm..interesting...he has a level 2 man in Lumbridge doing stuff for him? And he was lost in Morytania? That was the part that jumped out at me...

 

 

 

(After the last line about the scheming and whatnot of course).

[Darkluniux]

New Postbag from the Hedge, contains letter to WOM:

 

Dear Wise Old Man,

 

 

 

In my recent learnings of math, a level of which I'd hope you'd know, being wise and all, I came to wonder what the width of Runescape, if it were truly round like a sphere, was.

 

 

 

First I collected my data. Using a sextant, watch, and chart I found that there are 32 paces to a degree. Then, setting up my formula for finding the arc length of a circle,

 

 

 

Keeping up with me?

 

 

 

Then, I converted 1 degree into radian measures, or pi/180.

 

 

 

The formula was now this:

 

32 paces = pi/180 x r (radius in paces)

 

 

 

I divided both sides by pi/180, and got roughly 1833 paces for the radius of Runescape, if it were in fact truly round like a sphere.

 

 

 

So, the circumference of Runescape, at 0 degrees, should be roughly 11,500 paces. The surface area would be roughly 42,200,000 paces. I'm sure not even a third of that is being used at the moment.

 

 

 

So... my question is this: Where is it all? Surely you must know...

 

 

 

~Gogetagss~

 

And this is the reply

Dear Adventurer Gogetagss,

 

 

 

Yes, yes, I can see what you're saying but ignoring the inaccuracies (you're 20 paces off)... Of course, these calculations only work because RuneScape is spherical - some planes are spade-shaped; how are you going to figure them out, eh?

 

 

 

Anyway, what exactly was your question? "Where is it all?" Well, clearly it's there, it exists. Your mathematics proves it, if it wasn't we'd all be floating off into the air due to the distinct lack of mass needed for gravity to work. A while ago I had a thought along these lines so I constructed some boots covered in glue and started stockpiling rubber bands, just in case. They're around here somewhere...

 

 

 

Anyway, just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't there. The mere fact that you are breathing that clear transparent stuff proves this. I mean, you can't see the back of your own head, but you're fairly sure it's there, aren't you?

 

 

 

In the interests of Science, I did organise for a level two man from Lumbridge to begin testing your theory of the circumference. In the last letter I got he was heading into Morytania. I haven't heard from him in a while; I wonder what happened.

 

 

 

Was there anything else? I'm very busy, you know: things to do, plans to make, schemes to act out.

 

 

 

 

 

You just had no posted the most important fact to me...

 

 

 

HE SIGNS WITH THE LETTER *D!!!

 

 

 

...So yes, with this, JaGex have claimed that his name is trully Dyonisus.

 

 

 

Ah yes, to the other guy with a kitty in his avatar: If he sent a lvl 2 man to morytania and he didn't back, is quite obvious, do you really think a level 2 man can survive in a land where werewolves wants men for breakfast and the Vampires want the men for its blood?

[phiagre]

finally we got rid of him/her

 

 

 

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It. :lol: