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New Duelling Glitch! Look Out. Lost 150M!


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The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!

Here's a video of me losing 150M to this glitch. Feels bad man.

Spread the word and tell people not to stake until this glitch is fixed.

Edit: I re-uploaded the video to remove some profanity. Sorry guys!


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I'd hardly say you lost anything.
You had 800m
Staked 150m
Pouch said 650m
At the end you have 800m still.
Sure you didn't get the winnings, but you didn't win as the duel didn't end properly.

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I'd hardly say you lost anything.
You had 800m
Staked 150m
Pouch said 650m
At the end you have 800m still.
Sure you didn't get the winnings, but you didn't win as the duel didn't end properly.


Not getting winnings = losing 150M

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That's not a loss though.
You had 800m, you still have 800m.
You can't lose 150m you never actually had, especially given that you did not actually kill the guy, he ran off still alive through whatever glitch this is, so the 150m was never meant to come to you.

It is certainly a glitch that could prove annoying, but you certainly did not lose 150m.

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Technically you won nothing and lost nothing.

Still sucks though.

Couldn't help but laugh when he just ran off.

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It is certainly a glitch that could prove annoying, but you certainly did not lose 150m.


The glitcher would have had to have two successful hits that totalled over 250lp in order to pull out the win, where the TC only had to hit once, most likely, to knock off the final 80-100lp. I can understand why the TC would feel like at that point, he *earned* his winnings. But Sy is right - the duel wasn't over, and you don't deserve the cash until the opponent is dead. It's annoying, and definitely a glitch, but not a loss.

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Dang, I won't be back at the arena until that dies down.

Side note: I've staked Yellow Lorry so many times, haha.
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It is certainly a glitch that could prove annoying, but you certainly did not lose 150m.


The glitcher would have had to have two successful hits that totalled over 250lp in order to pull out the win, where the TC only had to hit once, most likely, to knock off the final 80-100lp. I can understand why the TC would feel like at that point, he *earned* his winnings. But Sy is right - the duel wasn't over, and you don't deserve the cash until the opponent is dead. It's annoying, and definitely a glitch, but not a loss.


Yeah I totally get why you may feel you'd earned it by that point and would assume the win is basically yours, the odds are certainly dramatically in your favour. But it's not a 100% guaranteed outcome, there's plenty of videos lurking around there of amazing turn arounds in the last moments of a duel. Which is why, like you, I say it's not a loss as he did not actually win it.

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yes this is a glitch and it is unfair that op did not get his 150m, he risked 150m and should have won it, that guy got a chance at 150m while risking nothing himself, and should banned asap.
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Does it really matter whether he used the term "lost" correctly or not? Because of the glitch he lost out on a VERY good chance of winning 150M.

The point is the glitch. It really is bad that with every other update you have to worry about potential glitches at arena. Thanks for the warning.

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yes this is a glitch and it is unfair that op did not get his 150m, he risked 150m and should have won it, that guy got a chance at 150m while risking nothing himself, and should banned asap.

Yeah exactly. Essentially people can exploit this by risking party hats, and with a 100% profit rate/0% risk they can make billions within minutes. I really hope some sort of action is taken but I don't expect it.
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Sorry for your loss, as you interpret it. Hopefully the Squeal doesn't mess up other activities too...
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why does it take so long for jagex to fix these? they have the player name, and is obviously fairly widespread so do a hotfix and ban the abusers...
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Wouldn't be surprised if this was their way of making less people stake

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That's not a loss though.
You had 800m, you still have 800m.
You can't lose 150m you never actually had, especially given that you did not actually kill the guy, he ran off still alive through whatever glitch this is, so the 150m was never meant to come to you.

It is certainly a glitch that could prove annoying, but you certainly did not lose 150m.

Losing potential profit=Loss. If I had something I was going to sell for 200 bucks and a friend broke it, I lost 200 bucks. Logic.

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Losing potential profit=Loss. If I had something I was going to sell for 200 bucks and a friend broke it, I lost 200 bucks. Logic.


Getting people to understand this is difficult. And there *is* a difference between opportunity loss vs actual loss. In the case of the thing you were going to sell, if its a real item valued at 200$, then yes you lost 200$ (Because you lost something physical).

If someone promises to give you 200$, and then gets killed in a car accident, you had an opportunity loss of 200$, but never lost any thing you already had possession of.

Potential profit lost is only lost potential. It isn't a physical loss of value. While technically a form of loss, the two things are different.

Opportunity cost is important, but it is difficult to get people to understand it.

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lol I know how this is done :lol:

1. Its NOT new
2. Its fairly easy (well for experienced bug abusers, on this forum id say only brunokiller qualifies)
3. its not Squeal of fortune lol


Wouldn't be surprised if this was their way of making less people stake


Nope the specific method they did for it was very useful for lots of stuff I will be very sad to see it go

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lol I know how this is done :lol:

1. Its NOT new
2. Its fairly easy (well for experienced bug abusers, on this forum id say only brunokiller qualifies)
3. its not Squeal of fortune lol



Wouldn't be surprised if this was their way of making less people stake


Nope the specific method they did for it was very useful for lots of stuff I will be very sad to see it go

Where was it implied that it was due to Squeal of Fortune?




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