PNAD Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking! Here's a video of me losing 150M to this glitch. Feels bad man. Spread the word and tell people not to stake until this glitch is fixed. Edit: I re-uploaded the video to remove some profanity. Sorry guys! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3VUKSSWfMY Edited March 2, 2012 by PNAD Added hide tags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I'd hardly say you lost anything.You had 800mStaked 150mPouch said 650mAt the end you have 800m still.Sure you didn't get the winnings, but you didn't win as the duel didn't end properly. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNAD Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 I'd hardly say you lost anything.You had 800mStaked 150mPouch said 650mAt the end you have 800m still.Sure you didn't get the winnings, but you didn't win as the duel didn't end properly. Not getting winnings = losing 150M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 That's not a loss though.You had 800m, you still have 800m.You can't lose 150m you never actually had, especially given that you did not actually kill the guy, he ran off still alive through whatever glitch this is, so the 150m was never meant to come to you. It is certainly a glitch that could prove annoying, but you certainly did not lose 150m. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thus Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Technically you won nothing and lost nothing. Still sucks though. Couldn't help but laugh when he just ran off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 It is certainly a glitch that could prove annoying, but you certainly did not lose 150m. The glitcher would have had to have two successful hits that totalled over 250lp in order to pull out the win, where the TC only had to hit once, most likely, to knock off the final 80-100lp. I can understand why the TC would feel like at that point, he *earned* his winnings. But Sy is right - the duel wasn't over, and you don't deserve the cash until the opponent is dead. It's annoying, and definitely a glitch, but not a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 dat Q&A My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Dang, I won't be back at the arena until that dies down. Side note: I've staked Yellow Lorry so many times, haha. Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 It is certainly a glitch that could prove annoying, but you certainly did not lose 150m. The glitcher would have had to have two successful hits that totalled over 250lp in order to pull out the win, where the TC only had to hit once, most likely, to knock off the final 80-100lp. I can understand why the TC would feel like at that point, he *earned* his winnings. But Sy is right - the duel wasn't over, and you don't deserve the cash until the opponent is dead. It's annoying, and definitely a glitch, but not a loss. Yeah I totally get why you may feel you'd earned it by that point and would assume the win is basically yours, the odds are certainly dramatically in your favour. But it's not a 100% guaranteed outcome, there's plenty of videos lurking around there of amazing turn arounds in the last moments of a duel. Which is why, like you, I say it's not a loss as he did not actually win it. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999134 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 yes this is a glitch and it is unfair that op did not get his 150m, he risked 150m and should have won it, that guy got a chance at 150m while risking nothing himself, and should banned asap. Check it out, huge amount of effort has gone into this massive mod![hide=old sig][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druvovic Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Does it really matter whether he used the term "lost" correctly or not? Because of the glitch he lost out on a VERY good chance of winning 150M. The point is the glitch. It really is bad that with every other update you have to worry about potential glitches at arena. Thanks for the warning. My "blog" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 yes this is a glitch and it is unfair that op did not get his 150m, he risked 150m and should have won it, that guy got a chance at 150m while risking nothing himself, and should banned asap.Yeah exactly. Essentially people can exploit this by risking party hats, and with a 100% profit rate/0% risk they can make billions within minutes. I really hope some sort of action is taken but I don't expect it. Want to help the Tip.It Crew? Visit the Website Updates & Corrections forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sorry for your loss, as you interpret it. Hopefully the Squeal doesn't mess up other activities too... "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999134 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 why does it take so long for jagex to fix these? they have the player name, and is obviously fairly widespread so do a hotfix and ban the abusers... Check it out, huge amount of effort has gone into this massive mod![hide=old sig][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 The cause is needed before the solution can be found, hopefully an update within the next few days will solve it. ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logdotzip Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Wouldn't be surprised if this was their way of making less people stake my youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonewall337 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 That's not a loss though.You had 800m, you still have 800m.You can't lose 150m you never actually had, especially given that you did not actually kill the guy, he ran off still alive through whatever glitch this is, so the 150m was never meant to come to you. It is certainly a glitch that could prove annoying, but you certainly did not lose 150m.Losing potential profit=Loss. If I had something I was going to sell for 200 bucks and a friend broke it, I lost 200 bucks. Logic. [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Losing potential profit=Loss. If I had something I was going to sell for 200 bucks and a friend broke it, I lost 200 bucks. Logic. Getting people to understand this is difficult. And there *is* a difference between opportunity loss vs actual loss. In the case of the thing you were going to sell, if its a real item valued at 200$, then yes you lost 200$ (Because you lost something physical). If someone promises to give you 200$, and then gets killed in a car accident, you had an opportunity loss of 200$, but never lost any thing you already had possession of. Potential profit lost is only lost potential. It isn't a physical loss of value. While technically a form of loss, the two things are different. Opportunity cost is important, but it is difficult to get people to understand it. Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fray Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 lol I know how this is done :lol: 1. Its NOT new2. Its fairly easy (well for experienced bug abusers, on this forum id say only brunokiller qualifies)3. its not Squeal of fortune lol Wouldn't be surprised if this was their way of making less people stake Nope the specific method they did for it was very useful for lots of stuff I will be very sad to see it goWhere was it implied that it was due to Squeal of Fortune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omali Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 lol I know how this is done :lol: 1. Its NOT new2. Its fairly easy (well for experienced bug abusers, on this forum id say only brunokiller qualifies)3. its not Squeal of fortune lol Wouldn't be surprised if this was their way of making less people stake Nope the specific method they did for it was very useful for lots of stuff I will be very sad to see it goWhere was it implied that it was due to Squeal of Fortune? The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Is it patched? My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fray Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Wasnt it though :wink: and yeah as Omali said, OP thought squeal was the bugWhat I think the OP meant was the squeal update came with some unrelated patch notes which could have caused the bug. I don't think anyone thinks squeal has any relation with this bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Fray Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Read the first post again pleaseThe squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking![spoiler=Patch Notes]Graphical: The "clicked" cross when not clicking on an active object is now slightly green-tinged to differentiate it totally from the red cross. Sunfreet's death animation now fades out correctly. Bound Dungeoneering longswords are now using the correct animation set. Forgotten rangers now fire the correct ammo instead of Mithril arrows. Soul Wars capes now hang more naturally on the player. The red strikethrough on requirements on the Task System is now placed correctly on the text. Players now face forward at the end of the balance beam on the Advanced Barbarian Agility course. Some unnecessary blocking has been removed around the Pirate Hut in the Wilderness. Quests & Tasks: Some TzHaar no longer refer to the player as "YtHarr" instead of "YtHaar". The TokHaar-Kal can now be used to attack Ice Strykewyrms. Sir Mordred from Merlin's Crystal no longer awards combat XP when attacked. The "Enter Mining Guild" task now correctly states the Mining level requirement. The cutscene at the Zamorak temple during The Temple at Senntisten now plays correctly. The warning about needing to complete the new version of Druidic Ritual to continue One Small Favour and Eadgar's Ruse is no longer displayed if the player has already completed the reworked Druidic Ritual. The Tail of Two Cats cutscene is no longer interrupted by the Anvil attacking cutscene from Troll Warzone. The "Get a Slayer task" and "Complete a Slayer task" tasks are now autocompleted if Smoking Kills has been completed. Skills & Minigames: Dominion Markers now state that Sunfreet hasn't been slain if all other special battles have been completed without defeating Sunfreet. Fareed in Dominion Tower will now attempt to unequip the player's weapon to: The inventory, or if full the player's bank, or if full will drop the player's cheapest item to make room in the inventory If any item is dropped, a warning is also shown to state that this item will not be retrievable if the player leaves Dominion Tower. Stealing Creation reward items now correctly award bonus XP when recharged without the need to re-equip them first. The Taverley Circus location has been moved out of the corner of the flax field. The easy treasure trail pointing to Gaius now states he is in Burthorpe instead of Taverley. Sliced Bananas can no longer be taken out of the Mage Training Arena. Other: The Troll Warzone musical tracks (Taverley Folk I & II, Taverley Ambience I-V) have been renamed. The Wooden workbench Skill Guide information now correctly states that 5 planks are required instead of 3. It is no longer possible to create ground charcoal on free worlds. Clicking to open 2 Skill Guides at the same time now opens the correct one. Pickaxes on the Smithing Skill Guide now correctly shows a members only icon. The Troll Warzone Combat Supplier is now named Corporal Boothe. The Prayer Renew potion effect is now consistently removed on death. A spelling mistake has been corrected when a player reaches their daily red sandstone limit. The Attack skillguide no longer lists A Clockwork Syringe as a requirement to wield a Brackish Blade. It is no longer possible to start a turkey farm using Mackers and a Menagerie, then reclaiming him multiple times from Diango. TzRek Jad's name when in the players inventory is now correctly capitalised. Metal claws on the Smithing Skill Guide now display the correct level required to smith them. This is also part of the squeal of fortune update, yet all these aren't related to squeal of fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Losing potential profit=Loss. If I had something I was going to sell for 200 bucks and a friend broke it, I lost 200 bucks. Logic. Losing potential profit = losing potential profit. If you had something you were going to sell for 200 bucks and a friend broke it, you lost the potential to earn 200 bucks. Logic. Does it really matter whether he used the term "lost" correctly or not? Because of the glitch he lost out on a VERY good chance of winning 150M. The point is the glitch. It really is bad that with every other update you have to worry about potential glitches at arena. Thanks for the warning. Pretty sure that's what everyone already said :P No one is disagreeing with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Gabe Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Read the first post again pleaseThe squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking! [hide]The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking!The squeel of fortune update brought with it a bug where people are able to leave the duel arena half way through a duel. Be VERY VERY careful when staking![/hide] Quoting something 10 times doesn't change anything or make you look cool bro. One was enough. Three months banishment to 9gag is something i would never wish upon anybody, not even my worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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