Returning items of strangers

[PuRe_MoNk_89]

its nice to come across the occasional person who returns stuff when you die. But there are ways to prevent losing highpriced items.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If youre dharoking, then youre most likely using melee prayer, so if you like to risk it and get your hp dangerously low, then always have prot item on as well as melee protect. evil chicken + low hp = bad news. Also always keep an eye on your prayer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If youre skilling with a rare on, then always wear ring of life. Friend of mine was wearing his yellow the other day, got a random and lagged out, died and lost it + 20mil. Ring of life wont save you 100% of the time, but its better to have that chance of it saving you, then no chance at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Times I would return items is if like someone lags out and is training, and drops just like glory etc. But like fugers, that emo is always half killing abbys. If he were to die, then Id have no sympathy for him, and would keep everything he drops.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It just depends on the situation really :? If I were to die with my yellow on, then it would be my own fault most likely, and I wouldnt expect a total stranger to return an item worth over 70mil.

[plx]

the 3 item rule is so people train using food... If there was no 3 item rule i would get a bunch of telis and train until i die teli back repeat... and for pking also if u die in the wildy its ur fault u didnt read the message!

[the_best371]

I'd give at least 90% of items back,like 10% is for me... i know the feeling dying with full guthans and dragon chain :o

[Peronix]

 

 

 

 

If you died and lost stuff you worked for, woudln't YOU want to get the stuff back?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The thing about that is... losing items is the entire point of dieing. Its nice that some people do return items, but it really shouldn't be expected. And I for one probably wouldn't return the items. Thats even considering whether I pick the stuff up, because I wont pick up plain old junk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only exception would be for friends. If a friend dies, yeah... I would most definitly get what I could (if not all of it) and see to it that it was returned. Otherwise... anything that hits the floor and becomes visible is fair game to me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wouldn't expect anyone to do it for me (unless they were a friend) so I definitly wouldn't do it for anyone else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And with that said... I don't think I've died and lost anything since my RSC days (at least on the main). So my track record is doing well in that respect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think if more people start helping others when they die... they will become too dependent of total strangers, which will only lead to a big disappointment when they get stabbed in the back (and knowing this community, they will). And like I probably said before, it defeats the purpose of dieing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For once I agree with you in every respect of your post.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When you die and loose your items, it's nobody's fault but your own. Sure something unexpected might happen, but if you don't want to loose your items you better be expecting the unexpected. You know some random events are deadly; therefore it isn't very wise to turn away from the screen for more than 20 seconds without either a)logging out or b)banking any stuff you don't want to loose.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And, another rule is to not take any items into a situation where you might loose it. For example; it is NOT smart to wear Phats while combat training unless you are confident in your skills and will be alert at all times. And if it's a situation like metal dragons and you're using prayer, you're just asking to loose your prized phat. If you for even a few seconds you let your prayer get turned off by it dwindling to nothing, you stand a very good chance of dying. And I won't even get into PKing with phats... it's just plain stupid, and you're BEGGING to loose it, not asking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So basically what I'm trying to say is that if you die, it's your own fault, and you alone will pay the price for it. Anything you drop is up for grabbs, and those who do end up with them are in no obligation to return your items. If you're friends with them, it's not a very nice thing NOT to return their items, and it could cost you a friendship, but if you pick up somthing from the corpse of a complete stranger you stand to loose nothing, only gain.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And like Y2G said, if too many people actually do return stuff people will be too reliant on the community for help and they will in turn be less careful with their items, and when they die, loose their items, and someone keeps it and won't give it back, they will be all the more upset, and mabye even try to blame their loss on the other person instead of taking responsibility for their own mistakes and learning from them.

[crossfire39]

Well, sometimes I do. I remember one time, a long time ago, I was training at earth warriors, and a person around my lvl came. We trained for a long time, and then he got low on health. Well I was planning to pk, and we were in the wildy, so I koed him. True, this goes against my new standard of not pking trainers, but to stay with the my policy, I gave him his row, and d baxe back. Kept the rune though.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pkers aren't evil btw. We pk other people who try to get rich of trainers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And this would be nice if everyone did it, but there are some people who should have given more care and attention to what they are doing, lol no offense leester, but still.

[indalecio]

I always do it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm trying to set a trend by example. Everytime I see someone fighting Dharok with prayer, I note the persons name. If he lets his prayer run out, he'll probably die. If he dies, I will give his stuff back. Don't respond by saying "You're already rich" or "You're level 118, you don't need death piles" Even if it was a red party hat (which I'm working my wagon off for right now) I'd give it back. Its his. He deserves it back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you died and lost stuff you worked for, woudln't YOU want to get the stuff back?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't you think your life would be better if you lived by the Golden Rule?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wouldn't it be cool if EVERYONE did this?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did you earn anything in his death pile?

 

 

 

Don't you think you'd feel better about yourself if you were a good doobie?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is my silly post to implore all tip.iters to play by the golden rule, and treat others how you'd like to be treated yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS. Pkers are evil. :P (flame bait to keep the thread alive. hehe)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's too bad there Leesters ... Leading by example will never work in this situation.

 

 

 

Hey hey, when somebody around me died at barrows the other day, I returned

 

 

 

his Ahrim's Hood and Ahrim's Skirt, plus all his little stuff (even his fury ammy).

 

 

 

The very next day I died at barrows, dropping the same items I had returned

 

 

 

to the other guy (since I had the same equipment, sans the Fury), and nobody

 

 

 

returned them to me. Even after I pmed a person who had been fighting in the same

 

 

 

tomb with me, I still am down a good 3M in equipment and runes. Returning

 

 

 

peopl's items is great and all, but I am now wishing I had just kept that other

 

 

 

person's items, because I am flat broke. (No more barrows researching until

 

 

 

I can get back on my feet :? :( )

[AzNbLuE]

I can totally sympathize with anybody who says that if you die, most likely it's your fault and you deserve to lose you items.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But at the same time, it just goes against my conscience if I don't do it. I'm actually probably opposite of most people. If the person dies and loses items that aren't worth much (ex. rune), then I usually won't bother and just keep it. On the other hand, if they lost something valuable (like a partyhat) I would be more inclined to return it, because it would be of more importance to that person.

[x_bow80]

i would give the stuff back, but now every1 is jut worying about becoming rich... :D

[Roglord]

I've only been in the situation 3 times:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I once entered Guthan's tomb and starting fighting Guthan before even seeing the pile on the floor (With a Rune Plate on top). Naturally I went to grab it, and ended up with 700kish of stuff. I was only given 30 seconds or so before the rest of the items disappeared, so I had no way of knowing who owned the items, as they were long gone, and by the time they would have got back (if they came back) I would have been long gone (as I had to waste my barrows supplies to pick up the items.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another time was at Trolls, this guy was acting like a wagon, verbally abusing some lower levels. When he go Ko'ed by the thrower Trolls, he wasn't getting his Kite/Helm/Glory back in a hurry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The last time was at Trolls, and I offered the guy his Kite/Helm/Glory back as we had been talking earlier. He never came to get it, and logged out :(

[balistix0]

It's a nice thing to do, but I wouldn't count on it to happen if I were to die.

[Sy_Accursed]

I alwasy give back death piles given the chance, if i happen to miss the name or they do not respond when I pm i then keep it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I see the greed trait behind humna nature to keep it, but personally I see the veiw of many they worked hard for it juts like you worked hard for what you have. And the example thing is true it also lets you make some friends.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Plus if you belive in karma doing such a gd dead of giving the stuff back wuill come back to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whihc I have found is true as a lower level giving stuff back the rich have given generous rewards etc etc

[bflat0]

OK... I often do give people there stuff back when they die, provided I can. Sometimes you can't. I got my 1st glory and wealth that way. I was chompy bird hunting and a guy behind me (out of my site) just on the mini-map disappeared. I walked over and thier was his stuff... had no clue who it belonged to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are many people... and most of them low level in the wrong place at the wrong time - That I had have the chance to give them thier items back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've died maybe a near a dozen times tops and lost my stuff and to be honest in all those times I think 3 were my fault... - I was being beligerant during a quest and had freinds around to pick up my stuff at the time. But all the rest were from loss of conection or power in a dangerous area.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, I've even given back items after a PK... Why you may ask?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well back on F2P after I finished all the quest I had not much to do but PK. I would hang out with a few other friends and we would ambush people left and right in the wild. One time we pk'd a 12 year-old boy who's only purpose there was to get planks... sure he should not have taken his addy into the wild if he did not wish to lose it, but most kids are naive anyway, live in rs and learn... I think he learned his lesson.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Point being even in the wild as for my attitude it depends, I don't pk people obviously there for some other reason... ie. clues, agility, slaying greens or rc. I don't like getting attacked when looking thru a sextant and I do not complain about those who do, but it's not my style. To me there is no sport in something you obviously are going to win.

[Trojann2]

Wow, your working your wagon off alot atm eh :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Go to barrows, YES HE IS working it off... :P

[tefda]

I've died once or twice before in Runescape. Once was out of overpowering odds (Elvarg the Dragon) and the other was from Ancient Magicks by a Pker as I headed off to the abyss.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I never yelled at Elvarg, but I did raise my hands up in a cheer when I defeated him. I couldn't defeat the Pker (with his powerful spells) but I did try to bother him after I died. It consisted of "Congratulations on killing off somone with barely any real items, I'll bet you noticed no glory amulet today". He offered to give me my stuff back, I declined.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is in my mind his reward for defeating me. If I die to a monster and there is someone nearby, I consider it a warning to them to be sure they know their own strengths and weaknesses so they never die off to a monster.

[E_K]

honestly i wasn't even going to read this topic because i thought it would be someone whining about losing stuff, then i noticed it was by leesters so here i am

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have died twice outside of the wilderness

 

 

 

the first time was when my friend convinced me to go to kq with him and i ended up dieing and losing a pair of ranger boots which he replaced because he felt it was his fault

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the second time i was dharoking and got a lag [bleep]e and moments before there was a lvl 50 something begging me to die, after i died he pm'd me offering to sell me my stuff back lol, well it was like a week before xmas so i told him to keep them and have a merry xmas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

neither of those times was i expecting anything back, just made me run less progs to try to reduce the likelyhood of lag

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i have found a few death piles, nothing special just like ranger boots and some rune items and runes

 

 

 

usually i dont see the person who dies i just happen to walk in afterwards and i dont feel like sitting there hoping they come back

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if i saw someone die though and they pm'd me me asking for their stuff i would give back most of their items, if they had anything rare or really expensive that i didnt already have though that would be staying with me

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but like someone said earlier, friends are a completely different story, everything will be given back and be expected to be given back

[Kostya]

Only if..

• [*:37o78rq2]I know them[*:37o78rq2]They were directly nice to me[*:37o78rq2]Or they messaged me and nicely asked me for their items back

Otherwise, I keep 'em. :P

[reich1337]

Always give their stuff back. Or Big Bubba will come to your house and make a believer out of you!!! :twisted:

[reich1337]

:roll: code of moral and principles serve no purpose in a game. if you had an advantage, use it.

 

 

 

That type of thinking goes STRAIGHT into life and one more thing.... .,!,.-.-.,!,. Yeah put that into your life.

[tetrak]

Well, it's a really nice thing to do, Leesters, but it would kinda break the fear of dying if everybody did that, which would ruin a big aspect of the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People wouldn't be very scared of the bosses, and lower level players would invade higher training spots O.o

[Liquid_Harem]

I have a habit of returning stuff to people if they ask for it back, or when they die because of lags...I actually add the person and tell them to meet me somewhere...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even while pking, I have given full runes to poeple who have obviously lagged...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SPREAD THE MESSAGE- BE NICE

[Dilts36]

hum. nope i would keep everything i found. because all u jerks who kill me in the wildy and take my stuff lol

[Sy_Accursed]

hum. nope i would keep everything i found. because all u jerks who kill me in the wildy and take my stuff lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If its in the wildy and the person attacks you or is a pker then I can see keeping it, they were willing to risk it. Or if ur a pker and keep it, but other than that I'd say giving it back is the kind thing to do

[FuBai]

I always do it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm trying to set a trend by example. Everytime I see someone fighting Dharok with prayer, I note the persons name. If he lets his prayer run out, he'll probably die. If he dies, I will give his stuff back. Don't respond by saying "You're already rich" or "You're level 118, you don't need death piles" Even if it was a red party hat (which I'm working my wagon off for right now) I'd give it back. Its his. He deserves it back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you died and lost stuff you worked for, woudln't YOU want to get the stuff back?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't you think your life would be better if you lived by the Golden Rule?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wouldn't it be cool if EVERYONE did this?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did you earn anything in his death pile?

 

 

 

Don't you think you'd feel better about yourself if you were a good doobie?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is my silly post to implore all tip.iters to play by the golden rule, and treat others how you'd like to be treated yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS. Pkers are evil. :P (flame bait to keep the thread alive. hehe)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a nice idea, but completly removes any fear of death. The whole thing about dying is that you lose items, or it is not a threat.