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Great article Ts Stormrage!

 

It brought a smile of recognition to my face both about the game itself and this subject that I have played with myself.

One of my solutions was advertising and I gave a few suggestions, but I will happily admit your idea Is better, so good that I am repeating it here for the one or two ( if any) who might have only read my article.

 

" You're at home, eating your crappy TV-dinner with the wife and kids when suddenly an ad pipes up. It's for a game, but it doesn't say which one. It shows that what you see is only actual gameplay footage (not even cut-scenes, and if you have decent graphics capabilities you know that RuneScape looks pretty awesome these days). Your kids are getting excited, and they want it for Christmas. Then it says "Playable directly from your browser". That's great, now you can avoid the yearly recurring utter and total collapse of society during Black Friday (November 29th this year). Finally, at the end it says you can play it all for free, and only after that it shows you that it's RuneScape."

 

This also has to do with reality and perception, the image of RS certainly is different then the reality of the game.

 

An other thing that brought a smile to my face is both of us mentioning Monty Python, the great British comedy team of the past.. and now again present...  that I used as a 'coat hanger' (translated Dutch saying)  for my article.  Talk about translated Dutch, sadly it was not possible to have my article edited this week and not being native to English I think my articles need it, so please forgive the mistakes our wonderful editors normally remove.



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Just a note-the deadline for the Finish-the-Fictional contest has now passed.  We're looking over entries now and will be publishing something further as soon as it's ready :).


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If the winner is just as good as the story you will all have a treat!



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It isn't difficult to say that RuneScape is currenty destroying itself with updates.  If you look around at other games, PvM mechanics are a huge aspect which draws ppl. That's one of the reasons why i used to play WoW up until MOP was released which killed my love for the game.  From a PvM view point, God Wars Hardmode was a brilliant addition, but still very easy in some respect, but they should have raised the Lifepoints the bosses have to live up to the 'hardmode' label.  Many tweeks can be made to certain parts of the game to revitalize it's player base.  I miss the days where players would create skill guilds, such as Fletching on w132 Yanille Bank.  Players have become too 'me me me' now-a-days.  A lot of things are just becoming too easy...


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It isn't difficult to say that RuneScape is currenty destroying itself with updates.  If you look around at other games, PvM mechanics are a huge aspect which draws ppl. That's one of the reasons why i used to play WoW up until MOP was released which killed my love for the game.  From a PvM view point, God Wars Hardmode was a brilliant addition, but still very easy in some respect, but they should have raised the Lifepoints the bosses have to live up to the 'hardmode' label.  Many tweeks can be made to certain parts of the game to revitalize it's player base.  I miss the days where players would create skill guilds, such as Fletching on w132 Yanille Bank.  Players have become too 'me me me' now-a-days.  A lot of things are just becoming too easy...

Too easy? The last several updates have introduced bosses that most people are unable of defeating. Vorago and Barrows Elite are both only able to be conquered by a relatively small portion of the player base. Is that not hard enough for you?


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It isn't difficult to say that RuneScape is currenty destroying itself with updates.  If you look around at other games, PvM mechanics are a huge aspect which draws ppl. That's one of the reasons why i used to play WoW up until MOP was released which killed my love for the game.  From a PvM view point, God Wars Hardmode was a brilliant addition, but still very easy in some respect, but they should have raised the Lifepoints the bosses have to live up to the 'hardmode' label.  Many tweeks can be made to certain parts of the game to revitalize it's player base.  I miss the days where players would create skill guilds, such as Fletching on w132 Yanille Bank.  Players have become too 'me me me' now-a-days.  A lot of things are just becoming too easy...

Too easy? The last several updates have introduced bosses that most people are unable of defeating. Vorago and Barrows Elite are both only able to be conquered by a relatively small portion of the player base. Is that not hard enough for you?

 

Indeed, a point I make about the Rise of the Six in my article.  But, looking at the reaction by Ello Puppet it may be a good thing we have this kind of specialized content.. that is IF it makes the game retain some players.  Still TS made the point the game needs more new ppl, one I obviously, looking at my earlier articles , agree with big time. I am 100% sure the game needs a lot of new people more then to retain the top. 



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It isn't difficult to say that RuneScape is currenty destroying itself with updates.  If you look around at other games, PvM mechanics are a huge aspect which draws ppl. That's one of the reasons why i used to play WoW up until MOP was released which killed my love for the game.  From a PvM view point, God Wars Hardmode was a brilliant addition, but still very easy in some respect, but they should have raised the Lifepoints the bosses have to live up to the 'hardmode' label.  Many tweeks can be made to certain parts of the game to revitalize it's player base.  I miss the days where players would create skill guilds, such as Fletching on w132 Yanille Bank.  Players have become too 'me me me' now-a-days.  A lot of things are just becoming too easy...

Too easy? The last several updates have introduced bosses that most people are unable of defeating. Vorago and Barrows Elite are both only able to be conquered by a relatively small portion of the player base. Is that not hard enough for you?

 

Indeed, a point I make about the Rise of the Six in my article.  But, looking at the reaction by Ello Puppet it may be a good thing we have this kind of specialized content.. that is IF it makes the game retain some players.  Still TS made the point the game needs more new ppl, one I obviously, looking at my earlier articles , agree with big time. I am 100% sure the game needs a lot of new people more then to retain the top. 

 

 

My 'easy' remark was in relation to GWD Hardmode. Not Vorago and RO6.  These two bosses do show Jagex heading in the right direction for PvM mechanics.  Requring teams to work as a unified team rather then just going at it. 


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It isn't difficult to say that RuneScape is currenty destroying itself with updates.  If you look around at other games, PvM mechanics are a huge aspect which draws ppl. That's one of the reasons why i used to play WoW up until MOP was released which killed my love for the game.  From a PvM view point, God Wars Hardmode was a brilliant addition, but still very easy in some respect, but they should have raised the Lifepoints the bosses have to live up to the 'hardmode' label.  Many tweeks can be made to certain parts of the game to revitalize it's player base.  I miss the days where players would create skill guilds, such as Fletching on w132 Yanille Bank.  Players have become too 'me me me' now-a-days.  A lot of things are just becoming too easy...

Too easy? The last several updates have introduced bosses that most people are unable of defeating. Vorago and Barrows Elite are both only able to be conquered by a relatively small portion of the player base. Is that not hard enough for you?

 

Indeed, a point I make about the Rise of the Six in my article.  But, looking at the reaction by Ello Puppet it may be a good thing we have this kind of specialized content.. that is IF it makes the game retain some players.  Still TS made the point the game needs more new ppl, one I obviously, looking at my earlier articles , agree with big time. I am 100% sure the game needs a lot of new people more then to retain the top. 

 

 

My 'easy' remark was in relation to GWD Hardmode. Not Vorago and RO6.  These two bosses do show Jagex heading in the right direction for PvM mechanics.  Requring teams to work as a unified team rather then just going at it. 

 

 

I completely disagree there. Having a couple bosses like that are fine, but basically requiring things like skype and other voice chats in order to do pvm is awful. One of the reasons I play rs is that I don't have to worry about voice chat. Then again, I have issues and I suppose they shouldn't have to design around everyone's neurotic tendencies.


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I miss the days where players would create skill guilds, such as Fletching on w132 Yanille Bank.  Players have become too 'me me me' now-a-days.  A lot of things are just becoming too easy...

The community is the main reason why the game is less fun nowadays compared to before, IMO.

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Additionally those skill guilds still exist. w100 / 138 for crystal trees, the lfm/lrc worlds, dg world, bonfire world, etc. They exist, often right under your nose. People still engage each other in those places, sometimes even pleasantly. Don't forget that friends and clan chats allowed people to skill apart from eachother yet still talk.

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I enjoyed the article you wrote TS_Stormrage. Covered many points I was thinking. I've moved on to WoW and at social events sometimes RuneScape pops up in conversation. We're all in our 20s but many of us remember it as the game with crappy graphics, simple gameplay but a fun community. No real desire to return after logging in and getting bombarded with all sorts of popups and clutter.

 

The TV adverts were very misleading.



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I will forever remember RS as the game with crappy graphics and one of the most parasitic, self-absorbed and outright sadistic communities I've ever encountered. Jagex did a fine job perpetuating that for years and years with the way the death system worked, the way PvP was designed, and their fetish for releasing skilling spots that deliberately forced players to compete with each other for spawns that were too limited. Thankfully, they seem to have turned away from that now.

 

You ask why do I play then if I hate the graphics and I hate the people who play it? Well, thankfully when they killed PKing most of the worst offenders left the game. PKers in RS are a breed of nasty I have never seen in any other game. But, I can still enjoy myself in the game anyway. Honestly the graphics aren't that bad (and only superficial gamers judge a game solely on how pretty it looks) and I can choose to ignore the annoying people and instead do things with my friends.


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well other games have kind have outclassed RuneScape even with the updates and changes. Say the new skill divination another skill were you watch tv while you let your character do something......something like league you are improving your skill as a player and you are competing or cooperating with other players. The graphics in scape aren't as crappy as before but are still not that great. The Eoc change wasn't liked by many players rs combat could have went in a different direction even if they wanted to change. other digital distribution has changed the way you can access games so rs 5 bucks a month that was raised to 7 bucks a month is no longer the cheapest thing you can get in gaming when you consider f2p games or when you consider buying a game for  a few dollars on steam..

 

SOF /solomons also made rs seem more like a generic f2p game than a subscribtion game. Sof even made it pay to win and that makes it a bit unappealing to people that want fair competitions of their skills. 

 

And yeah a bunch of gamers have said that they accually did like rs but they didn't after eoc or alot of people grew out of it just because not having enough time for gaming or if they do game the same or more hours per day they want more out of the expirience....

 

But putting effort into a skill like dungeoneering made a game like rs stay fresh and interesting compared to "why would I do this skill?"



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I don't see how baby unicorns are any more out of place than puppies or kittens. The game has had unicorns since Classic, and they make much more sense as pets than, say, abyssal demons or tooth golems.



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I don't see how baby unicorns are any more out of place than puppies or kittens. The game has had unicorns since Classic, and they make much more sense as pets than, say, abyssal demons or tooth golems.

 

It might be more the way they look.. very 'my little pony' .



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Just going to give the reason why I quit, I know a lot of people feel the same way, but a lot of people don't and can respect that.

EOC completely killed all forms of pures, or alternative ways of playing 'competitively'. One of the greatest things in runescape was that you didn't have to focus on just max skill total, you could work on making an account designed just for pvp. When starting a new account to pvp/play with the day before EOC's release you could have chosen:

Turmoil Berserker, Turmoil hybrid, 43 /52 pray berserker, 52 pray hybrid, 40 defense hybrid, 33 defense turmoil pure, chaotic/godsword/whip/dragon of the previous, barrows pure/hybrid, cannon pure, range 1 def pure, hybrid 1 def pure, melee 1 def pure at all different levels, 1 pray pure, 1 pray main, obby pure, cvls pure, 20 defense pvp equip pure, rune gloves pure, range tank, arma storm tank, summoning tank, summoning pure, obby tank, low str high att/def veracer, iban pure, 10 hp dbow pure, dfs pure, sara sword pure, 11 pray mage pure, d claw rush pure, korasis pure, 99hp summ pure, poly staff pure,gmaul pure, black mask slayer pure and so many many many more unique accounts and challenges to work and play with.



After EOC's release you have:

Range/Mage/Melee.
Not that it really matters as people will only ever fight if you are using the same style. Your levels don't matter and your equipment does nothing unique.

I kept with EOC for a good 3 months after its release, and hated it.




Also as for Solomon's store, that was exactly how it should have been done, the SOF should never have existed.

Quoting myself on an old post here and still feel that is why I quit and have no desire to come back, I don't mean to detract from peoples personal achievements but in my and a lot of other players views there is nothing difficult or engaging left in runescape, now a lot of people don't mind this and are happy grinding for 200mil slayer exp on 5 different accounts, however this is not a realistic popular drive for normal people. You can see from twitch streaming view counts how few people care about anything competitive in rs3 compared to 2007scape, which is a much smaller game.

 

For so many people training, skilling and questing in runescape where means to an ends for creating perfect pking accounts, and that is just gone. 


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I miss the days where players would create skill guilds, such as Fletching on w132 Yanille Bank.  Players have become too 'me me me' now-a-days.  A lot of things are just becoming too easy...

The community is the main reason why the game is less fun nowadays compared to before, IMO.

 

Efficiency-Scape kinda killed my motivation to play what's now RS3 - it became the norm to play 6 hour days at 100% max efficiency with no room for "fun" activities.  It's just a whole different vibe than the game had before.  It's nice in that there's a lot of high level content and people to do it, but there's no longer a real "noob" class in the game anymore.  Everyone and their dog is maxed/comped.


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I miss the days where players would create skill guilds, such as Fletching on w132 Yanille Bank.  Players have become too 'me me me' now-a-days.  A lot of things are just becoming too easy...

The community is the main reason why the game is less fun nowadays compared to before, IMO.

 

Efficiency-Scape kinda killed my motivation to play what's now RS3 - it became the norm to play 6 hour days at 100% max efficiency with no room for "fun" activities.  It's just a whole different vibe than the game had before.  It's nice in that there's a lot of high level content and people to do it, but there's no longer a real "noob" class in the game anymore.  Everyone and their dog is maxed/comped.

 

But you don't have to play like that. Ignore the people who are jerks about efficiency. Play with whatever playstyle suits you-- it is a GAME. It's meant to be something you kill time with and have fun doing it.

 

I have clocked over 383 DAYS of game time in RS (i.e, literally over 9000 hours), and a large percentage of that was spent doing absolutely nothing productive. Bank-standing and chatting with friends.


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But you don't have to play like that. Ignore the people who are jerks about efficiency. Play with whatever playstyle suits you-- it is a GAME. It's meant to be something you kill time with and have fun doing it.
 
I have clocked over 383 DAYS of game time in RS (i.e, literally over 9000 hours), and a large percentage of that was spent doing absolutely nothing productive. Bank-standing and chatting with friends.

Easier said than done.
Many multiplayer activies (even some single-player ones) are less enjoyable, and in some cases nearly impossible to do because a vast part of the community has turned towards the "no-xp-waste" mentality.





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