Autoer/macroer discussion- please post here!

[rssurvivor]

To clarify: The chinese names are people using a certain bot that originates from china, and is now also sold to english people. A new version of it is going to be released soon unfortunately which will lead to another increase of macroers.

 

 

 

As darrel104 already said, the huge increase in macroers is starting to get frustrating, every world's fishing guild is full with lvl 3 to 40s with armour from randoms on.

 

 

 

As many have noticed (i hope) the increase of macroers started at the beginning of this month, and is caused by a new version of a certain bot. Here is a picture from the bot's site with usage information:

 

 

What the bot does is load a website everytime it is started, which is how they can get this usage information.

 

 

 

As you can see from the first of april the usage became many times higher then it was previously. Jagex should definatly do something against this, with the newest update they broke the bot for a while, but it was fixed within an hour. This HAS to chance, otherwise a lot of people will quit playing the game, because it is infested with macro's.

[None2None]

To clarify: The chinese names are people using a certain bot that originates from china, and is now also sold to english people. A new version of it is going to be released soon unfortunately which will lead to another increase of macroers.

 

 

 

As darrel104 already said, the huge increase in macroers is starting to get frustrating, every world's fishing guild is full with lvl 3 to 40s with armour from randoms on.

 

 

 

As many have noticed (i hope) the increase of macroers started at the beginning of this month, and is caused by a new version of a certain bot. Here is a picture from the bot's site with usage information:

 

 

What the bot does is load a website everytime it is started, which is how they can get this usage information.

 

 

 

As you can see from the first of april the usage became many times higher then it was previously. Jagex should definatly do something against this, with the newest update they broke the bot for a while, but it was fixed within an hour. This HAS to chance, otherwise a lot of people will quit playing the game, because it is infested with macro's.

Heh, and the bot even costs money...just shows you how far people will go... #-o

[xCoryx]

Well I dont know if this has been posted before, but there seems to be a new skill the auoers have hit- Runecrafting.

 

 

 

Recently I have noticed 2 level 70's at the nature altar using the Fairy Ring method. These 2 characters were both wearing mith plate and legs, Nature tiara, dramen staff, as well as glory. They never talked and when I looked them up, seemed to both have 60 defence, as well as a few other low ranked skilled. Among these skills was high fishing (another macro'd skill). This was all suspicion until I decided to follow their routes. Both players, banked at the same booth in Edge, and followed what seemed like similar paths. As I was following them, I shouted the first 3 letters of both names. The first player I followed was a male and responded with "no" and "byebye." The other character is a female and she responded with "?" and "no." Seems like randomly generated text to me. However the real proof is what happened today. Upon following the female on her second run, she stopped in between the bank and Edge bridge and paused there for about 1-2 minutes. The following conversation then took place:

 

 

 

Me: *first 3 letters of name*

 

Her: Hey

 

Me: Why didn't you respond before? (previous run)

 

Her: Why do you think?

 

*She logs off*

 

 

 

I reported her for macroing thinking that Jagex might be able to watch the past few minutes of gameplay and have enough evidence to ban.

[argentini_an]

Im a Player Mod

 

 

 

I post only to say:

 

 

 

Report them

 

 

 

Please, it may take a couple of days but they WILL take action against them.

 

If more come, reprot those too

 

 

 

Will I be able to appeal against a ban for macroing?

 

Our policy has always been that we do not tolerate any form of cheating. We do not ban accounts lightly. Significant evidence is always collected before any action is taken against a player. We will not reveal the evidence that we have collected, since most cheats only want to know the evidence so that they can avoid getting caught the next time.

 

Bold text = it take some days to get the evidence

 

 

 

More info in http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... le_id=2077

[None2None]

Im a Player Mod

 

 

 

I post only to say:

 

 

 

Report them

 

 

 

Please, it may take a couple of days but they WILL take action against them.

 

If more come, reprot those too

 

 

 

Will I be able to appeal against a ban for macroing?

 

Our policy has always been that we do not tolerate any form of cheating. We do not ban accounts lightly. Significant evidence is always collected before any action is taken against a player. We will not reveal the evidence that we have collected, since most cheats only want to know the evidence so that they can avoid getting caught the next time.

 

Bold text = it take some days to get the evidence

 

 

 

More info in http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... le_id=2077

I really don't care that you're a player mod. (Yes, he is, but who cares...)

 

 

 

Just because Jagex decided to let you mute people and decided to look at your reports with more detail and act more often than a normal player doesn't mean you know ANYTHING about their banning system...and infact...I know you know nothing about it.

 

 

 

At the rate they're going, they won't stop macroers at all:

 

(I'm pulling a post of mine from another topic to make my point easier)

 

 

 

That's laughable. Go to the Runescape forums and you'll see just how many people try to report these bots over and over and nothing happens.. well, you'll see it until Jagex's toadies lock the threads anyway.

 

nothing happens instantly and that's what throws people off. that, and the fact that the minute the bot gets a ban, ten more take it's place. the report button works well enough on individual bots, however, the creator makes hundreds at a time.

 

 

 

Jagex needs to pull its head out of the sand and put employees IN the game, dealing with these issues.

 

now what do you think would happen if a jagex mod was to wander around free worlds these days...?

 

this is basically the argument that jagex staff members have superpowered reporting abilities...

 

 

 

there is a large macroing problem in this game because there's money in it. a lot of ignorant children play this game and don't bother to read the rules. that and the fact that it is relatively cheap.

 

warcraft doesn't have a macroing problem because it is expensive enough that it would be hard to make a profit from gold farming. runescape is free, so it's easier. that and on members, there is still profit even with $5 per month. there are more valuable items, they're just illegally reaping the rewards.

 

Heh, and what about KO and CO? You trying to phase them out? Both of them are free just as Runescape, yet don't have the problem :anxious:

 

 

 

BUT, just to fit your argument, lets say I am a level 3 (With no stats...Just for the sake of argument) member macroing... Your arguments still actually don't make since.

 

 

 

Let me give you some info. Picking flax in members gives, eh, I'd say about 1000 flax/h since your bot runs perfectly without mistake. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say it takes 4 days to ban a macroer and an hour taken out of this macroing time because of transfering and walking, I'd personally it would be a week before one is banned, but meh, lets see how things pan out your way (By saying your way, I mean the quicker ban):

 

 

 

4 * 24 = 96 (Hours macroed)

 

96 - 1 = 95 (Because of walking/transfering

 

95 * 1000 = 95,000 (How much flax will one pick?)

 

95,000 * 100 = 9,500,000 How much gold one could earn with this number of flax

 

 

 

Considering one could buy one mill for, lets say $5USD (Of course illegally), this one bot alone earned the macroer 8,500,000gp = $42.50USD in 4 days. Considering one person may be running, eh, lets say 5 bots at a time... That is equal to a GAIN of $212.50USD or 42,500,000gp in 4 days... Including the $8 it would cost to buy memberships for each bot through PayPal, that's a NET GAIN of $172.50...

 

 

 

This would be equal to working more than 7 hours every one of these 4 days at $6 an hour, which is about the average teen-job at Wal-Mart or the Home Depot...

 

 

 

Lets say 4/5 of these bots are banned before the mills are transfered and sold, but 1 of the 5 bots got away because Jagex lost track the transactioins including those mills, or because the mills were sold to a (Most likely soon to be banned) person. The macroer still made a NET GAIN $2.50... And may I add that that is still a profit...

 

 

 

 

 

So, given your argument that we can't expect things instantly, you're implying that this will just keep going on and on and on because of the gains these people are making...

[1337hax]

Im a Player Mod

 

 

 

Oh, you're cool now.

[Artificial_Doom_Flavor]

Continuous ban on all players wearing default skin with 60 wc and standing within a ten-square radius of ANY YEW TREE. That's what I sez. Damn the skillers, they don't need their accounts anyway >:D

[stratotanker]

Seeing as how this is on macros and bots in general, I'm bringing this up.

 

 

 

Has anyone noticed the Rune Shop bots, the Range shop bots, and the Karajama Fishing bots?

 

 

 

Rune Shop Bots-Buying all the minds, chaos, and deaths from the shop.

 

Range shop bots-Buying every arrow in stock, type doesn't matter.

 

kara Fish bots-Massively fishing swords, lobs, tuna, etc.

[None2None]

Damn the skillers, they don't need their accounts anyway >:D

RuneScape would damn themselves by doing so. It would easily be enough to get them shut down or to revive all accounts...

 

 

 

Basically, if they banned skillers, I have a nice website to report them to:

 

http://www.ic3.gov/ ;)

[stratotanker]

Too true...

 

 

 

BTW, like my new sig, guys?

[Darrel104]

Damn the skillers, they don't need their accounts anyway >:D

RuneScape would damn themselves by doing so. It would easily be enough to get them shut down or to revive all accounts...

 

 

 

Basically, if they banned skillers, I have a nice website to report them to:

 

http://www.ic3.gov/ ;)

 

 

 

 

 

You agree that your Game character, account and items are and will remain our property.

 

 

 

We reserve the right to alter the amount or terms of our subscription fees at any time.

 

 

 

We reserve the right to suspend operation of some or all this website at any time without notice for repair, maintenance, improvement or otherwise.

[None2None]

Damn the skillers, they don't need their accounts anyway >:D

RuneScape would damn themselves by doing so. It would easily be enough to get them shut down or to revive all accounts...

 

 

 

Basically, if they banned skillers, I have a nice website to report them to:

 

http://www.ic3.gov/ ;)

 

 

 

 

 

You agree that your Game character, account and items are and will remain our property.

 

 

 

We reserve the right to alter the amount or terms of our subscription fees at any time.

 

 

 

We reserve the right to suspend operation of some or all this website at any time without notice for repair, maintenance, improvement or otherwise.

Too bad they don't control me :lol:

 

 

 

a convenient and easy-to-use reporting mechanism that alerts authorities of suspected criminal or civil violations.

[suzhen]

i hate macroers most hav high skill lvl.. for example i went wc yews.. saw a few macro there and i went check their skill..it show 80+ in wc lol...

[dave0293]

I have been minng for a while to get my smithing up and I went to look at the hiscores and my wc has dropped off of them. BTW my wc level is 60. Do you think this is because of autoers or the mass amount of people that love woodcutting. When you get to 500k in the hiscores the level is only 68 compared to lvl 50 fming (no kidding look it up.) or only 63 cooking the skill that is wicked easy with so many 99's. (and 63 at 550k in the hiscores.) Do you think this is because most autoers will be manned at a tiny bit of lvl 60 or just a ton of people love wcing. Are autoers taking over the hiscores? :ohnoes:

[Jedi_Kane]

I Swear if someone says to me when i am on my skiller 'ZOMG report that macro!' I will stab myself! I mean some ppl are just so vein they think i macro just because im better than themm :evil:

[kdb148]

It's sad, because you can't cut yews or mine in the mining guild in f2p any more. Jagex says they can very easily detect macroers, so why don't they have roving mods go to the macroing hot spots and ban the macroers on site? If they actively patrolled for bots, they could get rid of all of them in less than a week.

 

 

 

I mean, Jagex needs to face the fact that autoers cost them money. They have a huge negative impact on the f2p world, and the f2p world is what gets Jagex new members. The rune essence update was a total failure in getting rid of autoers, all it did was force them to go elsewhere. In fact, rune essence is the one place where autoers didn't affect other players. It was probably the worst thing to change in that manner.

[superson]

Im a Player Mod

 

 

 

Does that make you better then the rest of us, or even smarter?

[blosssom2581]

The bot problem is a great problem as they drain all the tree resources (species >Oak) I've never seen suspicious guy cutting Oak but over 50 lvl3 guy cutting 3~4 Willow.

 

Jagex should move 2~3 agressive monsters wandering around hot, high lvl woodcut grounds. When those noobs try to cut down the trees, uh, they get attacked and lost everything they cut down. I perfer the Jail Guardians (of course with suitable lvl) around Draynor Village - they are quite agressive and hit me several times when I try to get close to the Jail to cut Oak but when I get out of their range, they simply stop chasing me.

 

 

 

I don't think any type of Macro can help a lv3 player to win a high lv monster in a decent way.

 

 

 

I know that there are some skillers around runescape world aiming to sell what they've got. I think that they won't be doomed as they also have a respectable high combat (to fight off agessive monsters around Abyss or elsewhere in Wilderness.

 

 

 

Have you even seen any bots mining Ruintle in Wilderness? Of course no, as the monsters near the mine has a high attack power and any lv3 noob cannot reach there safety.

[bukket]

The bot problem is a great problem as they drain all the tree resources (species >Oak) I've never seen suspicious guy cutting Oak but over 50 lvl3 guy cutting 3~4 Willow.

 

Jagex should move 2~3 agressive monsters wandering around hot, high lvl woodcut grounds. When those noobs try to cut down the trees, uh, they get attacked and lost everything they cut down. I perfer the Jail Guardians (of course with suitable lvl) around Draynor Village - they are quite agressive and hit me several times when I try to get close to the Jail to cut Oak but when I get out of their range, they simply stop chasing me.

 

 

 

I don't think any type of Macro can help a lv3 player to win a high lv monster in a decent way.

 

 

 

I know that there are some skillers around runescape world aiming to sell what they've got. I think that they won't be doomed as they also have a respectable high combat (to fight off agessive monsters around Abyss or elsewhere in Wilderness.

 

 

 

Have you even seen any bots mining Ruintle in Wilderness? Of course no, as the monsters near the mine has a high attack power and any lv3 noob cannot reach there safety.

 

 

 

Uh, no. This ruins these woodcutting areas for level 3 skillers, who are completely innocent and shouldn't have to deal with any of these problems.

[Artificial_Doom_Flavor]

The rune essence update was a total failure in getting rid of autoers, all it did was force them to go elsewhere. In fact, rune essence is the one place where autoers didn't affect other players. It was probably the worst thing to change in that manner.

 

 

 

As a matter of fact, the rune essence update allowed them to triple the money they got from mining it, and when they sold it for more money they could make a more handsome profit and still pay for membership.

[None2None]

The rune essence update was a total failure in getting rid of autoers, all it did was force them to go elsewhere. In fact, rune essence is the one place where autoers didn't affect other players. It was probably the worst thing to change in that manner.

 

 

 

As a matter of fact, the rune essence update allowed them to triple the money they got from mining it, and when they sold it for more money they could make a more handsome profit and still pay for membership.

 

Responces to the update:

 

 

If you break Rule 12 and buy RuneScape gold you are directly funding this problem. You are funding underground gangs who run Chinese sweatshops, and creating the black market which causes this botting problem. Therefore, this rule will now be enforced as a priority, with no second chances. If you break Rule 12 and we catch you, then you will not only lose the money you spent, but also your entire account. Obviously, we will always be careful to make sure nobody is banned in error.

 

 

 

 

from http://news.runescape.com/newsitem.ws?id=785

 

 

 

Hee hee

 

 

 

 

You are funding underground gangs who run Chinese sweatshops,

 

 

AHAHAHAHAHA

 

Man, that's funny [cabbage], especially since...

 

Oh wait, they don't have to tell the truth!

 

 

 

 

Obviously, we will always be careful to make sure nobody is banned in error.

 

 

That's a lie :D

 

 

 

Ok.. Now to what I want to talk about...

 

 

 

 

 

Cheating, now, is almost at it's lowest point.

 

Scammers are everywhere, the main RSCheating site still up, ----------, is FULL of scammers, no current undetectable bots [compared to ----------] are actually released for the public, and one other thing I like complaining about, is ---------- little "duper."

 

Now I know that this might actually damn work.

 

And I will tell programmer how it worked, the idea, now how to do it.

 

Here it is:

 

It somehow* found out the DNS, ect, of JaGeX's HQ [not servers] and changed it's IP to that.

 

This is possible to change your IP to anything, as long as you have DNS info, ect.

 

Then, apparently the RS Client accepts this as a Mod, and walla! Dupe!

 

:P

 

If you want to complain, or say I'm a scammer, or some [cabbage], PM me.

 

 

...the VAST majority of the level-3 characters you see playing the game repetitively and not talking to anyone, are actually people from countries such as China and Korea, who are trying to collect RuneScape gold to sell for real world money...

 

 

Somebody could probably sue JaGeX for this (racial prejudice).

 

 

If you break Rule 12 and buy RuneScape gold you are directly funding this problem. You are funding underground gangs who run Chinese sweatshops...

 

 

And again.

 

 

Now weÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re on the case you can be sure weÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ll have this sorted out asap.

 

 

 

 

/nod unconvinced

 

 

 

Let's see how long the ---------- will last.

 

/starts stopwatch

 

 

 

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LOL

 

Blame the Chinese! xD

 

<3 JaGeX

 

 

 

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I wouldn't be surprised if the stats the quoted were perfectly correct. It's funny how they go on about the poor Chinese people. Jagex should be tried for crimes against humanity - robbing the Chinese of their money, their livelihood, and their lives.

 

Murderers...

[Mabilis]

look wat i saw today...

 

 

 

http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=botsxw5.png

[stratotanker]

Not as bad as fally/air temple yew.

[mujtaba]

lol even though they cause such a problem i still think we need them in runescape (now only if i knew how to auto :S) but if we didn't have the bots gathering the raw materials for everybody we wouldn't be able to lvl so quickly....

 

 

 

trust me i h8 these bots they annoy the crap out of me when i try to get yews but i still think we need them to gather our raw materials

 

 

 

imagine fletching with your own raw materials... flax into bowstring and cutting your own logs and so own and so forth....

 

 

 

i dont there is any1 out there wha has mined there own essence and are above 70 runecrafting.....

 

 

 

i could go on and on

[purpieman2]

LOL a macroer died and dropped black flowers. He came back and bought them back off me for 80k. He equipped them again. He died shortly after to dark wizards and i sold them back to him again. This happened one more time before he finally decided to bank the black flowers.

 

probably not a bot if they had black flowers and also came back and bought it back.