Futurama Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Just seen the trailer for this, due out next year. Looks insane :| Based on Frank Miller's graphic novel, "300" concerns the 480 B.C. Battle of Thermopylae, where the King of Sparta led his army against the advancing Persians; the battle is said to have inspired all of Greece to band together against the Persians, and helped usher in the world's first democracy. In 480 BC, the Persian king Xerxes sends his massive army to conquer Greece. The Greek city of Sparta houses its finest warriors, and 300 of these soldiers are chosen to meet the Persians at Thermopylae, engaging the soldiers in a narrow canyon where they cannot take full advantage of their numbers. The battle is a suicide mission, meant to buy time for the rest of the Greek forces to prepare for the invasion. However, that doesn't stop the Spartans from throwing their hearts into the fray, determined to take as many Persians as possible with them. http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/trailer1/ What do you think? I think, i'll be there on release day 8-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oy_the_Great Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 WT F? How can they screw a perfect theme like that? Can it be any more ridiculous? I read a book about the battle of Thermopylae, I've been there, I've seen documentaries about it, and yes, it was spectacular how Spartan hoplites stood firm against an army of thousands and thousands, but it wasn't that heroÃÆÃâÃâïc. The Persians, who barely had any protection and rusty blades, were underfed, they were trapped in the Greek mountains where they had to fight the best known soldiers at that time, who did not fear anything. Those Persians trampled over eachother, because in that mountainpass they all pressed forward, while the Spartans happily slaughtered the small front lines of the Persians, who did not stand a chance with their short swords vs. the hoplite spears. It could have been a great movie, but I'm afraid it will be even a lot worse than Alexander was. Why do all of those movies have to be spectacular and unrealistic? Bill Hicks[/url]":dhj2kan9]Since the one thing we can say about fundamental matter is, that it is vibrating. And since all vibrations are theoretically sound, then it is not unreasonable to suggest that the universe is music and should be perceived as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caligula101 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Yes i've read about that battle before. Shortly before the battle of Salamis I think, and after Marathon. Sounds good but as Oy said, quite unrealistic to the truth. But they couldn't put what you said Oy into the movie, that wouldn't make a good movie more a documentary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oy_the_Great Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Yes i've read about that battle before. Shortly before the battle of Salamis I think, and after Marathon. Sounds good but as Oy said, quite unrealistic to the truth. But they couldn't put what you said Oy into the movie, that wouldn't make a good movie more a documentary. How would it be a bad movie if it has realistic fighting scenes, realistic romances and not that divine crap? The trailer makes it seem like a myth, like Troy was, full of heroes that were sons of Zeus or Ares. But not a single Trojan would ever dare to claim their mortal bodies were part of their supreme God Ares, which they worshipped above all others. I find it sad that Greek stories always have to be spectacular, bloody and sexy. Especially historical facts. Stories like Troy or the Oddyseia can be spectacular, because that's what they were intended to be according to Homeros, but history, like the battle of Thermopylae, shouldn't be filmed like that. If I would direct that movie, I'd make a movie about what the Trojan soldiers think, if they were silently afraid to die, if they really were fearless or if they collapsed when they saw their friends die in battle. And about the misery of the Persian army, the (good) emperor Xerxes who lead a horrible campaign. I would not, however, make a movie with blood, sex and gore as if it were the Colloseum. Movies like Gladiator are made for that, because that's the intention of a Gladiator, to entertain the crowd with blood. It's not the intention of a soldier to entertain, he wants to survive and serve his country. But it seems that Leonidas, the famous king of sparta, who was an old general, not a strong youngman as seen in the trailer, is a tirannic barbarian. BS like that proves the director is another traditional Hollywood fool. Movies like these go straight into the thrashcan if it were up to me. Bill Hicks[/url]":dhj2kan9]Since the one thing we can say about fundamental matter is, that it is vibrating. And since all vibrations are theoretically sound, then it is not unreasonable to suggest that the universe is music and should be perceived as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caligula101 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I 100% agree that i'd prefer your movie to the current one. Incidently I didn't watch the trailer when I posted before but now that I have and having read and studied this battle before I see you're right, it is a disgrace to the truth. However, how many people have studied or read about this battle, I doubt many, this guys audience isn't people like you Oy that know about this battle. It is people that just wanna watch gore, blood and sex that are going to get him all his money, like the film Troy. Anyway, when are we going to battle on Aoe :-w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Oy, you have to remember this is based off of a novel and not what actually had happened. Yes, some truth is stretched. However, they aren't trying to sell it as a "realistic movie" and re-enactment of the event. I saw the trailer a while ago on CAD, looks like a good movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oy_the_Great Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I 100% agree that i'd prefer your movie to the current one. Incidently I didn't watch the trailer when I posted before but now that I have and having read and studied this battle before I see you're right, it is a disgrace to the truth. However, how many people have studied or read about this battle, I doubt many, this guys audience isn't people like you Oy that know about this battle. It is people that just wanna watch gore, blood and sex that are going to get him all his money, like the film Troy. Anyway, when are we going to battle on Aoe :-w Haha :D I really wish I could, but unfortunately, my Aoe version is illegal and I can only play it against people with the same version. And apparently (Apinagez and me tested it) it only works in Belgium. I sent Api my version, which took bloody long, but we couldn't play :( So unless you know of a way to get the real aoe version for less than 5̢̢̮ââ¬Ã¡Ãâì (at most ;)) I can't show you how a pro does it ;) Oy, you have to remember this is based off of a novel and not what actually had happened. Yes, some truth is stretched. However, they aren't trying to sell it as a "realistic movie" and re-enactment of the event. I saw the trailer a while ago on CAD, looks like a good movie. It's based on what novel? If it's based on a late European or American novel, then I can't blame them for anything. I thought it was based on historical 'facts'. And I must say I loathe your taste in films if you like that aweful superficial trailer. But I still think you're awesome ;) Bill Hicks[/url]":dhj2kan9]Since the one thing we can say about fundamental matter is, that it is vibrating. And since all vibrations are theoretically sound, then it is not unreasonable to suggest that the universe is music and should be perceived as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I agree i'm not a big movie person. To me if it entertains me it was worth watching. Obviously, however, I wouldn't hold something like this movie against something that's more than just a "movie". btw, from the quote above: Based on Frank Miller's graphic novel, "300" :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 I can't really get into any of Frank Miller's graphic novels or comic books. I did really enjoy Sin City, which he wrote. He co-directed the movie also, hopefully they allow him to co-direct 300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 This movie is "gay". 1) It's unrealistic. 2) It's not the real history. 3) The whole movie is to make "Alexander" look good. 4) It sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intriguing Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Although, as you have made quite clear already, it isn't realistic, I'm still looking forward to this movie. Who could say no to blood, sex, and gore? Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpbizkit Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Although, as you have made quite clear already, it isn't realistic, I'm still looking forward to this movie. Who could say no to blood, sex, and gore? elite? Tif 360 MGC Leaderboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
How2PK Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Can't wait to see it. Trailer looked really awesome. It's based on a Graphic Novell, hardly the real thing. So get your moaning somewhere else. 8-) This is going to be one amazing looking and very violent action movie which I am really going to enjoy! And I must say I loathe your taste in films if you like that aweful superficial trailer. :cry: Signature by Maurice SendakWhen the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, that's amore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 THIS IS SPARTA! Freakin awesome :: Guess the Movie Contest Champion: pfilc23 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augsback Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 I can't wait to see it either! Movie looks amazing. IMAX all the way. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aznhuskarl Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 It is people that just wanna watch gore, blood and sex that are going to get him all his money, like the film Troy. What do you expect? That's the stupid American way of making Ancient Greek movies. That's what you make money from that kind of entertainment {in which is direct violence, sex and gore.} And yet again, for the sake of entertainment Tory and 300 look nice for the action. Obviously historically speaking, there are loads of inaccuracy and we can debate on that all day. -=Aznhuskarl=- Cleric-=20Cent=- JuggernaughtMore to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 That's the stupid American way of making Ancient Greek movies. That's what you make money from that kind of entertainment {in which is direct violence, sex and gore.} You're pretty ignorant to say that only the Americans exaggerate movies to entertain people. What else are you guys going to whine about today? How the LOTR Trilogy is inaccurate because it's based on fiction :uhh: :: Guess the Movie Contest Champion: pfilc23 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 This movie is "gay". 1) It's unrealistic. 2) It's not the real history. 3) The whole movie is to make "Alexander" look good. 4) It sucks. Good way to bump up a few months old post, especially since the movie isn't even out yet. The graphic novel turned out to be pretty awesome. Sure it's not historically accurate, who the hell cares? Watch the history channel if that is what you want. It's a movie, made to entertain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Make7upu101 Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 I've read Batman: Year one and Batman: The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller and would highly recommend both of these to anyone interested in a good story. I'm going to try and read 300 before the movie comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman089 Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 I don't know why everyone seems to be getting butt-hurt over this, it's based off a graphic [wagon]-kicking comic book, so what else would it be other than a graphic [wagon]-kicking movie? Shallow action movies still do have their place at the cinema, definatly a movie i'd see with my friends for a fun time. Gamertag: King Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPurpleCrayon Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 It is people that just wanna watch gore, blood and sex that are going to get him all his money, like the film Troy. What do you expect? That's the stupid American way of making Ancient Greek movies. That's what you make money from that kind of entertainment {in which is direct violence, sex and gore.} And yet again, for the sake of entertainment Tory and 300 look nice for the action. Obviously historically speaking, there are loads of inaccuracy and we can debate on that all day. This movie wasn't made to be a documentary you idiot, it's not an accurate historical account of what happened, nor was it intended to be. It's made for entertainment, get over it. Ghost: I am prejudice towards ignorance, so that would explain why I appear to be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Why are people butthurt on a movie based on a work of fiction :uhh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intriguing Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Why are people butthurt on a movie based on a work of fiction :uhh: Isn't the point that they've turned a historical event into something it wasn't? Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTallestDwarf Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 It looks great. I'm seeing it the day it comes out. And I've even got a Movie Theatre Gift Certificate. ^.^ Fun with paint. Drink night cough medicine, take pills for sleeping, or just start playing with your Pokeman balls! In your Gameboy SP that is. =P~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonking Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 I'm not going to make any judgements on the movie yet, because I haven't seen it(Though I hate the way they did the guys bodies). Don't you just hate it when people start complaining about a movie BEFORE it comes out? It would be nice to see movies that are historically accurate, yes, though this is based off a freaking graphic novel people, could you overreact any more? It could be a good movie, so why don't all you complainers do us all a favor and actually go see the movie before you start whining sbout it? ~^v^~Ex-Leader of the Divine Flames of Redemption~^v^~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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