Odd Situation

[Cloaked_Shadow]

So, here is what's happening today. A fight. A massive one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My friends asked me to come along to aid them (I have a small reputation of being a good fighter).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

History: My friend, lets call him 'Pie-eater', was pissing off some random people. They ended up throwing the first punch. Pie-eater happened to have a few friends nearby. His friends ended up hospitalizing a few of of the opponents.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A week later, one of them belts Pie-eater in the face. FROM BEHIND.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Difficulty: Pie-eater kind of deserved it. I believe that if I go, I'd be doing something bad, and I'm probably right. Only reason I am going is to stop any of my friends from being injured, because they are so blindly rushing into what could become a riot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only justification I have for going through with this is that the opponents threw the first physical punch.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I go, I will feel bad. If I DON'T go, my friends might be injured when I could have possibly stopped it. I'll end up piling the blame on myself ( i dont know why I do that).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So it is a lose-lose situation. I'll probably end up going, but I value your advice. Opinions?

[Anesthesia]

Don't go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why on earth would you want to go to a fight? If they want to fight, fine. Why would they expect you to?

[BlueLancer]

Pacifism is overrated, if I was in your situation, I would definitely help my friends in a similar fashion. Only a coward would have a propaganda flashback in his mind, telling him "don't get into fights, it will ruin your life and you'll go to jail and lose everything you have and hungry sheep will feast on you"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's no need to blame yourself for anything. Maybe you live in a relatively peaceful neighborhood. After you spend a few years of your life living in a less peaceful area (Detroit) because of your work, you will realize things like this are a reality of life, but never get into a fight for no reason and calling the cops is often a good idea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If somebody attacks your friend, of course you're justified to go and help him. I'd even say obliged, if you are a true friend.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why on earth would you want to go to a fight? If they want to fight, fine. Why would they expect you to?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If my friends initiated the fight, then no, I wouldn't help them. But in this scenario his friends were attacked first, so I'd definitely help my friends (though I'd advise them not to annoy anybody by calling them 'pie eater')

[Mercifull]

If someone has assaulted your friend then go to the bloody police? What are you in a tribe or something? If none of you go to the fight then noone gets hurt. jeez, kids these days.

[knives669]

Don't go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know it's your friend and everything, but it's not your problem, and it's not something you should get involved in. You even said yourself that you would feel bad if you did go. I'm a firm believer in sticking up for my friends, but if you think Pie-eater really deserved it, then it's not your business to protect him.

[Kiriyama]

Go, but don't fight. Only get involved if they become outnumbered by 2+.

[Anesthesia]

Go, but don't fight. Only get involved if they become outnumbered by 2+.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, good advice. Sit and watch until you're sure you'll be outnumbered then hop in and get beaten to a pulp with them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unless it was just you and him, your waiting to see if they are outnumbered before you jump in won't save them from being outnumbered.

[____]

Yea, that's a nice lose-lose situation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Essentially, call the cops - they're your backup. Turn up in defence.

 

 

 

Do nothing untill a punch is thrown. You have a repuation as a good fighter, that's a negative for you. Chances are they'll target you and your friend, unless there is a known better fighter on your side.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Play defensive, fight back but NEVER attack anyone who didn't already attack you first. If the police turn up - at least you can argue self-defence; especially if there are whitnesses. If someone is on the ground, leave them there. And what ever you do - NEVER EVER let your emotions get in your way. Keep a level head and stay calm, you'll be fine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or your friend could simply not turn up.

[Kiriyama]

 

Go, but don't fight. Only get involved if they become outnumbered by 2+.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, good advice. Sit and watch until you're sure you'll be outnumbered then hop in and get beaten to a pulp with them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unless it was just you and him, your waiting to see if they are outnumbered before you jump in won't save them from being outnumbered.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dude, one guy can make a difference, heck I can hold down 2 people at once myself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway. Put one of them in a figure 4 armlock. Say it was self defence plus if you break his arm see it as a bonus, he'll go away.

[woopidoo2]

Na, dont go.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is the fight over yet? what happened? :ohnoes:

[omnitrophe]

go fight, beat everyone into bits, strengthen your image as a good fighter... next time your friend gets into troubles, and the opponents hear that you're going to fight aside your friend, they'll wet their pants and forget about the fighting :thumbsup:

[cadburys_egg]

go fight, beat everyone into bits, strengthen your image as a good fighter... next time your friend gets into troubles, and the opponents hear that you're going to fight aside your friend, they'll wet their pants and forget about the fighting :thumbsup:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd say you're under 18 and/or a chav.

 

 

 

Nice advice.

[SirHartlar]

You say you are known as a good fighter? Go along for the intimidation factor. You might even be able to prevent a fight if you get in the right words to both sides.

[ctp080188]

Does it really matter who started it? It's like what you say to your parents when you're 7 years old, fighting your sibling. Personally I think the whole situation is just stupid.

[VOV]

Pacifism is overrated, if I was in your situation, I would definitely help my friends in a similar fashion. Only a coward would have a propaganda flashback in his mind, telling him "don't get into fights, it will ruin your life and you'll go to jail and lose everything you have and hungry sheep will feast on you"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's no need to blame yourself for anything. Maybe you live in a relatively peaceful neighborhood. After you spend a few years of your life living in a less peaceful area (Detroit) because of your work, you will realize things like this are a reality of life, but never get into a fight for no reason and calling the cops is often a good idea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If somebody attacks your friend, of course you're justified to go and help him. I'd even say obliged, if you are a true friend.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why on earth would you want to go to a fight? If they want to fight, fine. Why would they expect you to?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If my friends initiated the fight, then no, I wouldn't help them. But in this scenario his friends were attacked first, so I'd definitely help my friends (though I'd advise them not to annoy anybody by calling them 'pie eater')

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I understand where you are coming from.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Growing up, none of us would back down from a fight. Even if you got beat up you would get respect for standing up for yourself and taking it like a man. As a kid we would let two guys fight it out without anyone getting involved and afterwards the matter would be settled, regardless of who won.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, I would never get in a fight today. If you watch the news you will see countless stories of gang jumpings, stabbings, and the like. People no longer fight fair and that's frightening. It's gone from "any fight you can walk away from" to "any fight you can survive."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[issy2]

Don't go.

[igotstr]

i'd have to say go for it. dont fight if it aint nesessary but hey who want's to know that ur friends are ketting their [wagon] kikked if u can o something about it .

 

 

 

reminds me wen we had litle fite in my town -finland ws russia- :D they went 3 ws 1 to my m8 and we took 15 ppl and went were they live. there were only 13 russian ppl but they had some sort of stiks as weapons and still they got [wagon] kicked :) finland ppl got the guts :anxious:

[Cloaked_Shadow]

You say you are known as a good fighter? Go along for the intimidation factor. You might even be able to prevent a fight if you get in the right words to both sides.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like this. Talking out of the chance that anyone will get hurt. We already went: we couldn't find them. My friends say that they are going to go every night until they do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Right now I'm pissed at them. Reason? They brought steel-plated boots and a brass knuckle. Those are items that can possibly kill.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The reason they WANT to get back at them, sorry I didn't include this earlier, is that whenever my friends are seen by this gang of people, they get threatened. This is at one of their hang-outs, and they don't want to be harrassed. They want to end it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm going to try to talk everyone out of it. Because seriously, steel-plated boots? I consider that to be lethal. Police around here don't really care about people's little differences, even if it may turn out to be dangerous. I know this sounds like a hasty generalization, but from what I've seen, it's true.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And it's back to the area tomorrow. I'm going to try and stop it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(by the way, if you lived here, you would know how these people act. They truly believe they are superior to us, and they are pretty arrogant. I hope they are open to discussion, but they are insanely easy to provoke.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: New info, apparently, during the time where my friend (John, instead of 'Pie-eater') was smacked with a belt, they threatened some girl from school. It was in Arabic, and my friends couldn't understand. The girl didnt tell John right there because it would piss him off and cause him to try and take them all alone. They said: "Shut up before I decide to whip your (unecessary cursing) face, too, (again with the cursing)." This was when she asked what the hell they were doing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway...tomorrow will hopefully be the result of this confrontation. I'm sick of waiting around for these guys... (I know you'll use this against me, so I'll say right now: I'm not sick enough not to go.)

[runemetsa]

this is kinda similiar situtation as in 'the outsiders'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Go ONLY if you know it is going to be a fair fist fight. If you see ANY pipes, chains, knives, baseball bats ect. draw back. If you simply can't solve this thing by talking, then fight might be an opiton. But if anything other weaponary than bare hands are used, it just can't end up good. It just can't.

 

 

 

Remember, a one's life is something that no one should play with.

[logic-is-overrated]

A week later, one of them belts Pie-eater in the face. FROM BEHIND.

How exactly does one get hit in the face from behind? Just curious.

[runemetsa]

 

A week later, one of them belts Pie-eater in the face. FROM BEHIND.

How exactly does one get hit in the face from behind? Just curious.

 

 

 

It is actually possible. My friend got face-belted from behind by his other friend. It's just about surprise (tho it broke his nose...)

[Cloaked_Shadow]

 

A week later, one of them belts Pie-eater in the face. FROM BEHIND.

How exactly does one get hit in the face from behind? Just curious.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SMACK! On the back. Head turns slightly and then, SMACK, across the eyes.

[ebe92]

 

go fight, beat everyone into bits, strengthen your image as a good fighter... next time your friend gets into troubles, and the opponents hear that you're going to fight aside your friend, they'll wet their pants and forget about the fighting :thumbsup:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd say you're under 18 and/or a chav.

 

 

 

Nice advice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

chavs don't fight, the cliche of "meet me at the park tonight" is always a lie i have fallen for many times when they dont turn up and i end up playing on the swings :) but anyway turn up and try and stop it, if things turn bad walk away and tell someone

[stan18]

fight them, and prove that you're no better than them

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

talk to your friend. get the police involved; even if the police dont like it, it is their obligation to do something. better to eat your pride than get permanently injured or killed

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and what exactly are they trying to "settle"? whose better than who? regardless of reason, its beyond stupid to fight and possibly ruin your life over pathetic reasons

[1_man_army]

You said it yourself, your mate deserved it. While he didnt throw the first punch it does seem he created the problem so he should be a man and handle it himself instead of trying to get people to protect him. You shouldn't create a problem with someone if your not willing to handle it by yourself.