Question: Least-Admirable Skill Cape

[mrpadre]

Firemaking, hands down. If I had to pick a second skill, it'd be cooking. With the obvious advent of the GrandExchange, you can purchase all the logs you need to burn to get to 99 firemaking in less than a minute (and the same with cooking).

The G.E. Limit for logs is 25k. So unless you buy 5 different types of logs, no. Also, the limit for Grapes is 1k/4 hours, so there is some waiting involved.

 

Least admiral skillcape: Slayer. So many people do it inefficiently. If you averaged 30k slayer exp per hour, then that's a different story, but I know too many people who a year to get 99 slayer, training with a whip and DFS, no prayer, no cannon.

 

Some exp rates: Prayer: 300k (ish) per hour

Construction: 900k (Usually closer to 700k) with mahogany tables

Cooking: 450k (Wines or Pie Bake spell with summer pies)

Fletching: 800k (Broad arrows)/∞ (Fletching bolts while doing something else)

Herblore: 450k (Extreme magics)

Slayer: 30k (Turmoil, cannon, fast transitions)

Woodcutting: 90k (Teaks)

Firemaking: 450k (Magic logs)/ ∞ (Teaks with adze)

 

Sorry but ALL of the data you presented is wrong, stop posting bull.

[spoiler=orly] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aOSv3h3f3c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EfdSgfwgVI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3_vUcUskUM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR5KABeDG-A

 

Lotsa videos

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWnKNq2cFOw

 

 

 

 

[DemonicSushi]

Cooking and Fletching, simply because of people who have them.

 

The majority of the people who own these capes only have them because they somehow believe it gives them a higher status. If anything, it just says "lol ima noob i wanna b pr0 but i cant. im 2 dumdum to figure out how 2 b moar efficient". As well, the attitudes that some of those people have are disgusting. Your cape doesn't make you better, and if I just 3 hit you, you don't come back and say "lol i got cook cape so there".

 

 

How are you gonna 3 hit someone with your noob stats?

 

Go train before you talk trash about skillers.

 

Because your stats are so pro?

 

*sigh*

 

Why does everyone always have to start fighting over stupid things when there's a disagreement?

 

Did i ever say or imply that my stats were pro? I think not.

 

I really dont see how 88 Range is going to 3 hit kill me, i have lots of accounts with more then 88 Range.

[Alg]

Firemaking, hands down. If I had to pick a second skill, it'd be cooking. With the obvious advent of the GrandExchange, you can purchase all the logs you need to burn to get to 99 firemaking in less than a minute (and the same with cooking).

The G.E. Limit for logs is 25k. So unless you buy 5 different types of logs, no. Also, the limit for Grapes is 1k/4 hours, so there is some waiting involved.

 

Least admiral skillcape: Slayer. So many people do it inefficiently. If you averaged 30k slayer exp per hour, then that's a different story, but I know too many people who a year to get 99 slayer, training with a whip and DFS, no prayer, no cannon.

 

Some exp rates: Prayer: 300k (ish) per hour

Construction: 900k (Usually closer to 700k) with mahogany tables

Cooking: 450k (Wines or Pie Bake spell with summer pies)

Fletching: 800k (Broad arrows)/∞ (Fletching bolts while doing something else)

Herblore: 450k (Extreme magics)

Slayer: 30k (Turmoil, cannon, fast transitions)

Woodcutting: 90k (Teaks)

Firemaking: 450k (Magic logs)/ ∞ (Teaks with adze)

 

Sorry but ALL of the data you presented is wrong, stop posting bull.

[videos removed to avoid huge lag]

Prayer: Was changed recently. Experience rates that high are no longer possible.

Mahogany Tables: May be fast but are also the most expensive reasonable training method. You're effectively paying for speed, as at even my level it would cost around 150 million.

Wine: Costs about 7m from 92, and is pure loss

Herblore: Even more expensive than construction and you need a high level to make those potions to begin with.

[DemonicSushi]

Firemaking, hands down. If I had to pick a second skill, it'd be cooking. With the obvious advent of the GrandExchange, you can purchase all the logs you need to burn to get to 99 firemaking in less than a minute (and the same with cooking).

The G.E. Limit for logs is 25k. So unless you buy 5 different types of logs, no. Also, the limit for Grapes is 1k/4 hours, so there is some waiting involved.

 

Least admiral skillcape: Slayer. So many people do it inefficiently. If you averaged 30k slayer exp per hour, then that's a different story, but I know too many people who a year to get 99 slayer, training with a whip and DFS, no prayer, no cannon.

 

Some exp rates: Prayer: 300k (ish) per hour

Construction: 900k (Usually closer to 700k) with mahogany tables

Cooking: 450k (Wines or Pie Bake spell with summer pies)

Fletching: 800k (Broad arrows)/∞ (Fletching bolts while doing something else)

Herblore: 450k (Extreme magics)

Slayer: 30k (Turmoil, cannon, fast transitions)

Woodcutting: 90k (Teaks)

Firemaking: 450k (Magic logs)/ ∞ (Teaks with adze)

 

Sorry but ALL of the data you presented is wrong, stop posting bull.

[videos removed to avoid huge lag]

Prayer: Was changed recently. Experience rates that high are no longer possible.

Mahogany Tables: May be fast but are also the most expensive reasonable training method. You're effectively paying for speed, as at even my level it would cost around 150 million.

Wine: Costs about 7m from 92, and is pure loss

Herblore: Even more expensive than construction and you need a high level to make those potions to begin with.

 

Yes sorry i didn't mean that all the exp rates were true, but saying that Slayer along with those skills isn't respectable is just, in my opinion, really a self-centered and not well thought thing to post on this topic.

[Alg]

Yes sorry i didn't mean that all the exp rates were true, but saying that Slayer along with those skills isn't respectable is just, in my opinion, really a self-centered and not well thought thing to post on this topic.

Just like the rest of this debate :razz:

I just think you can look at all of the numbers that have it, the speed you can get it, and so on, but in practice it doesn't always work that way.

[mrpadre]

Firemaking, hands down. If I had to pick a second skill, it'd be cooking. With the obvious advent of the GrandExchange, you can purchase all the logs you need to burn to get to 99 firemaking in less than a minute (and the same with cooking).

The G.E. Limit for logs is 25k. So unless you buy 5 different types of logs, no. Also, the limit for Grapes is 1k/4 hours, so there is some waiting involved.

 

Least admiral skillcape: Slayer. So many people do it inefficiently. If you averaged 30k slayer exp per hour, then that's a different story, but I know too many people who a year to get 99 slayer, training with a whip and DFS, no prayer, no cannon.

 

Some exp rates: Prayer: 300k (ish) per hour

Construction: 900k (Usually closer to 700k) with mahogany tables

Cooking: 450k (Wines or Pie Bake spell with summer pies)

Fletching: 800k (Broad arrows)/∞ (Fletching bolts while doing something else)

Herblore: 450k (Extreme magics)

Slayer: 30k (Turmoil, cannon, fast transitions)

Woodcutting: 90k (Teaks)

Firemaking: 450k (Magic logs)/ ∞ (Teaks with adze)

 

Sorry but ALL of the data you presented is wrong, stop posting bull.

[videos removed to avoid huge lag]

Prayer: Was changed recently. Experience rates that high are no longer possible.

Mahogany Tables: May be fast but are also the most expensive reasonable training method. You're effectively paying for speed, as at even my level it would cost around 150 million.

Wine: Costs about 7m from 92, and is pure loss

Herblore: Even more expensive than construction and you need a high level to make those potions to begin with.

Prayer: Sorry, didn't actually look at the video, but it's possible to do it faster than what he did. You can't do it this fast anymore, though.

Mahogany tables: Mahogany tables are 750k exp per hour -9.6mil per hour. Oak doors are 400k exp per hour and -3.3mil per hour. To get 10 million exp it would take 13.33 hours and 128 mil. For oak it would be 25 hours and 82.5mil. If you can make 2.5mil an hour you should do mahogany tables (Which is posssible, if you flip, but an oversight on my part, as most people can't make that much).

Wine: If you make more than about 500k an hour, you should do wine. That's pretty easy to make, with inflation.

Herblore: You have access to extreme magics for over half of your exp, and they're the most efficient, that's why I put them.

 

Yes sorry i didn't mean that all the exp rates were true, but saying that Slayer along with those skills isn't respectable is just, in my opinion, really a self-centered and not well thought thing to post on this topic.

 

Sorry, I thought that you meant data when you said data :P And I was only posting the exp rates of what I thought were the most efficient ways to train some skills (what I could pull off the top of my head). There are around 600 posts saying that Fletching/Cooking are the least admirable skills, and I was simply giving my opinion that effort invested is more valuable than time invested. As for the most admirable skill, it's whatever I happen to be training. Btw I'm not self centered. :-D

[geesch]

Although some skill capes are easier to achieve than others, dont forget their function in the game. Sure, you can buy cooking and fletching quite easily, and sure, youll get the most common skillcapes in the game. what most people fail to see is that they now have a trimmed skillcape. skill capes not only look cool, but they provide defensive and prayer bonuses. Each skill cape, regardless of simplicity, deserves respect and serves a great function in the game. My personal goal is to achieve a trimmed skillcape without needing to go into the common skills, but i still respect those who choose to not do that. Once i finish 99 thieving, i think ill move onto fishing, wc, or MAYBE con, depending on how much cash i gather.

[Psycho_Robot]

Firemaking, hands down. If I had to pick a second skill, it'd be cooking. With the obvious advent of the GrandExchange, you can purchase all the logs you need to burn to get to 99 firemaking in less than a minute (and the same with cooking).

The G.E. Limit for logs is 25k. So unless you buy 5 different types of logs, no. Also, the limit for Grapes is 1k/4 hours, so there is some waiting involved.

 

Least admiral skillcape: Slayer. So many people do it inefficiently. If you averaged 30k slayer exp per hour, then that's a different story, but I know too many people who a year to get 99 slayer, training with a whip and DFS, no prayer, no cannon.

 

Some exp rates: Prayer: 300k (ish) per hour

Construction: 900k (Usually closer to 700k) with mahogany tables

Cooking: 450k (Wines or Pie Bake spell with summer pies)

Fletching: 800k (Broad arrows)/∞ (Fletching bolts while doing something else)

Herblore: 450k (Extreme magics)

Slayer: 30k (Turmoil, cannon, fast transitions)

Woodcutting: 90k (Teaks)

Firemaking: 450k (Magic logs)/ ∞ (Teaks with adze)

 

I don't understand your logic for saying slayer is "least admirable". Sure some people don't train it as efficiently as they could be, but that certainly doesn't mean its a less admirable skillcape than cooking or fletching.

[DemonicSushi]

 

 

Sorry, I thought that you meant data when you said data :P And I was only posting the exp rates of what I thought were the most efficient ways to train some skills (what I could pull off the top of my head). There are around 600 posts saying that Fletching/Cooking are the least admirable skills, and I was simply giving my opinion that effort invested is more valuable than time invested. As for the most admirable skill, it's whatever I happen to be training. Btw I'm not self centered. :-D

 

Yes sorry for the confusion, i now understand what you meant to say.

Effort is indeed worth more than time, everyone has time but not everyone has the effort to fletch or cook for a while.

I would much rather get 99 Slayer than 99 Fletching in the meaning that i would actually be LESS bored, even considering it levels slower.

So in conclusion you could say that Slayer is 'easier' in a way but i still greatly respect it as one of the most efficient and hard skills to level. :mrgreen:

[3hitm4g3u]

Cooking and Fletching, simply because of people who have them.

 

The majority of the people who own these capes only have them because they somehow believe it gives them a higher status. If anything, it just says "lol ima noob i wanna b pr0 but i cant. im 2 dumdum to figure out how 2 b moar efficient". As well, the attitudes that some of those people have are disgusting. Your cape doesn't make you better, and if I just 3 hit you, you don't come back and say "lol i got cook cape so there".

 

 

How are you gonna 3 hit someone with your noob stats?

 

Go train before you talk trash about skillers.

 

Because your stats are so pro?

 

*sigh*

 

Why does everyone always have to start fighting over stupid things when there's a disagreement?

 

Did i ever say or imply that my stats were pro? I think not.

 

I really dont see how 88 Range is going to 3 hit kill me, i have lots of accounts with more then 88 Range.

 

He didn't actually say your name specifically though.

[DemonicSushi]

Cooking and Fletching, simply because of people who have them.

 

The majority of the people who own these capes only have them because they somehow believe it gives them a higher status. If anything, it just says "lol ima noob i wanna b pr0 but i cant. im 2 dumdum to figure out how 2 b moar efficient". As well, the attitudes that some of those people have are disgusting. Your cape doesn't make you better, and if I just 3 hit you, you don't come back and say "lol i got cook cape so there".

 

 

How are you gonna 3 hit someone with your noob stats?

 

Go train before you talk trash about skillers.

 

Because your stats are so pro?

 

*sigh*

 

Why does everyone always have to start fighting over stupid things when there's a disagreement?

 

Did i ever say or imply that my stats were pro? I think not.

 

I really dont see how 88 Range is going to 3 hit kill me, i have lots of accounts with more then 88 Range.

 

He didn't actually say your name specifically though.

 

Yeh but i think most of us here have much higher defence than me

[Alg]

Yeh but i think most of us here have much higher defence than me

I don't :D

ON TOPIC:

It's probably that whole strength > all attitude that makes strength the most common 99. Not to say it isn't also more practical than, say, fletching...

[Lacoste]

Yeh but i think most of us here have much higher defence than me

I don't :D

ON TOPIC:

It's probably that whole strength > all attitude that makes strength the most common 99. Not to say it isn't also more practical than, say, fletching...

Exactly, go to ftp clan wars, and see what the first question is everyone 100- combat( sometimes higher) asks you.

[Alg]

Yeh but i think most of us here have much higher defence than me

I don't :D

ON TOPIC:

It's probably that whole strength > all attitude that makes strength the most common 99. Not to say it isn't also more practical than, say, fletching...

Exactly, go to ftp clan wars, and see what the first question is everyone 100- combat( sometimes higher) asks you.

Personally I'm having a bit of fun with it. I have 76 strength and 91 attack and hope to one day be a combat mind screw :D

 

But strength is still useful to have 99 in. Hitting high is never a bad thing and higher levels in it matter more than most other skills...

[DemonicSushi]

Yeh but i think most of us here have much higher defence than me

I don't :D

ON TOPIC:

It's probably that whole strength > all attitude that makes strength the most common 99. Not to say it isn't also more practical than, say, fletching...

Exactly, go to ftp clan wars, and see what the first question is everyone 100- combat( sometimes higher) asks you.

Personally I'm having a bit of fun with it. I have 76 strength and 91 attack and hope to one day be a combat mind screw :D

 

But strength is still useful to have 99 in. Hitting high is never a bad thing and higher levels in it matter more than most other skills...

 

Attack and defence still overpower strength though

[Alg]

That isn't the point. The point is that it's still got some use, and having high attack and defence only make you more of a killing machine. This is compared to fletching, firemaking, or even skills like herblore in which 96 does just as well as 99.

In short, yes it's the most common 99, no it might not be as admirable compared to, say, runecrafting, but it's useful.

[3hitm4g3u]

Cooking and Fletching, simply because of people who have them.

 

The majority of the people who own these capes only have them because they somehow believe it gives them a higher status. If anything, it just says "lol ima noob i wanna b pr0 but i cant. im 2 dumdum to figure out how 2 b moar efficient". As well, the attitudes that some of those people have are disgusting. Your cape doesn't make you better, and if I just 3 hit you, you don't come back and say "lol i got cook cape so there".

 

 

How are you gonna 3 hit someone with your noob stats?

 

Go train before you talk trash about skillers.

 

Because your stats are so pro?

 

*sigh*

 

Why does everyone always have to start fighting over stupid things when there's a disagreement?

 

Did i ever say or imply that my stats were pro? I think not.

 

I really dont see how 88 Range is going to 3 hit kill me, i have lots of accounts with more then 88 Range.

 

He didn't actually say your name specifically though.

 

Yeh but i think most of us here have much higher defence than me

 

He said people with only cook/fletch capes. I don't think it's unfair for me to say the majority of the owners of these capes are low leveled mains, i.e easy ko's.

[DemonicSushi]

Cooking and Fletching, simply because of people who have them.

 

The majority of the people who own these capes only have them because they somehow believe it gives them a higher status. If anything, it just says "lol ima noob i wanna b pr0 but i cant. im 2 dumdum to figure out how 2 b moar efficient". As well, the attitudes that some of those people have are disgusting. Your cape doesn't make you better, and if I just 3 hit you, you don't come back and say "lol i got cook cape so there".

 

 

How are you gonna 3 hit someone with your noob stats?

 

Go train before you talk trash about skillers.

 

Because your stats are so pro?

 

*sigh*

 

Why does everyone always have to start fighting over stupid things when there's a disagreement?

 

Did i ever say or imply that my stats were pro? I think not.

 

I really dont see how 88 Range is going to 3 hit kill me, i have lots of accounts with more then 88 Range.

 

He didn't actually say your name specifically though.

 

Yeh but i think most of us here have much higher defence than me

 

He said people with only cook/fletch capes. I don't think it's unfair for me to say the majority of the owners of these capes are low leveled mains, i.e easy ko's.

 

Yes but i have untrimmed fletching cape and 83 defence, so he should have looked at my sig before posting =]

[Mh1456]

fletching is the least admirable, its worse than cooking because it requires no money. it makes money, therefore cooking is slightly more respectable than fletching. I see untrimmed fletching everywhere, it disgusts me that people get fletching just to say they have a 99

[Alg]

fletching is the least admirable, its worse than cooking because it requires no money. it makes money, therefore cooking is slightly more respectable than fletching. I see untrimmed fletching everywhere, it disgusts me that people get fletching just to say they have a 99

But how can you say that making money off something makes it less admirable than losing money? That's like saying that the pker is less admirable than the guy that he just killed.

[DemonicSushi]

fletching is the least admirable, its worse than cooking because it requires no money. it makes money, therefore cooking is slightly more respectable than fletching. I see untrimmed fletching everywhere, it disgusts me that people get fletching just to say they have a 99

But how can you say that making money off something makes it less admirable than losing money? That's like saying that the pker is less admirable than the guy that he just killed.

 

IMO Fletching IS less admirable for sure. But Someone with 99 Fletching definitely deserves more respect than someone with no 99s.

[Rock Hard]

respect people for who they are, not what their stat sheet says about them

 

nobody deserves respect for 'playing a videogame' - honestly, it's fun, but it doesnt require any ability - just a lot of free time

[3hitm4g3u]

Cooking and Fletching, simply because of people who have them.

 

The majority of the people who own these capes only have them because they somehow believe it gives them a higher status. If anything, it just says "lol ima noob i wanna b pr0 but i cant. im 2 dumdum to figure out how 2 b moar efficient". As well, the attitudes that some of those people have are disgusting. Your cape doesn't make you better, and if I just 3 hit you, you don't come back and say "lol i got cook cape so there".

 

 

How are you gonna 3 hit someone with your noob stats?

 

Go train before you talk trash about skillers.

 

Because your stats are so pro?

 

*sigh*

 

Why does everyone always have to start fighting over stupid things when there's a disagreement?

 

Did i ever say or imply that my stats were pro? I think not.

 

I really dont see how 88 Range is going to 3 hit kill me, i have lots of accounts with more then 88 Range.

 

He didn't actually say your name specifically though.

 

Yeh but i think most of us here have much higher defence than me

 

He said people with only cook/fletch capes. I don't think it's unfair for me to say the majority of the owners of these capes are low leveled mains, i.e easy ko's.

 

Yes but i have untrimmed fletching cape and 83 defence, so he should have looked at my sig before posting =]

You're the exception, not the rule.

[Cheefoo]

IMO Fletching IS less admirable for sure. But Someone with 99 Fletching definitely deserves more respect than someone with no 99s.

 

Haha, no...

 

For example, compare my stats to yours:

 

I have no 99's, but...

Total level: 1821>1475

Total XP: 51,180,149>32,225,653 (most of yours is fletching)

All my stats besides Firemaking and Fletching are higher than yours.

 

You can't base anything off of one skill. Runescape was a better place before skill capes. Nowadays everyone's trying to show off, or make themselves sound more important than other people.

[DemonicSushi]

IMO Fletching IS less admirable for sure. But Someone with 99 Fletching definitely deserves more respect than someone with no 99s.

 

Haha, no...

 

For example, compare my stats to yours:

 

I have no 99's, but...

Total level: 1821>1475

Total XP: 51,180,149>32,225,653 (most of yours is fletching)

All my stats besides Firemaking and Fletching are higher than yours.

 

You can't base anything off of one skill. Runescape was a better place before skill capes. Nowadays everyone's trying to show off, or make themselves sound more important than other people.

 

 

The whole point of runescape is to show off to others. Otherwise pixels dont mean anything wether its Fletching or Summoning.