The Dark Lord Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Okay I've noticed that many topics in this forum are biased toward 'there is no God, anyone who believes in God are all fools.' Many Christians feel they are unfairly treated (as well as anyone who practices another religion). You can go to a topic with many atheists on it, say it's about evolution, and you'll see a flame war. The Atheists will call the religious people 'ignorant zealots' and make posts like 'Get the hell off this thread; any religious posts will not be tolerated and will be reported.' I do not believe that someone should be criticized for their faith. I mean if Christians are right, they'll go to Heaven, and Atheists will all go to hell. So what's the use of Atheists getting so pissed off all the time? Instead of 'These ignorant zealots will not keep a civilized conversation, it's quite the contrary.' How do you believe people are treated for their faith? SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Just fine. The forum is actually biased towards religion at the moment. Forbid you were here a year ago. I noticed you brought up the evolution topic. That was a different story. That was religious folk not permitting discussion about evolution. They saw the word, and they automatically spammed or flammed the topic. However, if you look at your religious threads, they are untouched. I thought about going in there and doing what you guys did to us, but im not an [wagon] like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 Well this religious thread comes to my mind right away. It's the reason why I even made this. Someone was having a discussion about dreams that are messages from God, and it got flamed. This was created before the ban on these topics, so it's most likely dead/locked. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4737_Carlin Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 yeh i agree with u 100%, why are us christians being persacuted just for our faith that jesus is our lord and savior. atheists are just ignorant to christ's glory and when they make posts about something that is no more than religion (evolution) they get to have a go at any1 who proves to them it didnt happen. it isnt fair how they get to talk their ignorant views when its clear that god cant be disproved. its clear that we were created and its clear that ppl who speak badly of god will be goin to hell when they die. anyway, if u get too upset by it just remember that we will be in heaven while they r burnin in hell. Evolution is a philosophy unsupported by the majority of scientific observations whose influence has been a detriment to society and true scientific advancement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 yeh i agree with u 100%, why are us christians being persacuted just for our faith that jesus is our lord and savior. atheists are just ignorant to christ's glory and when they make posts about something that is no more than religion (evolution) they get to have a go at any1 who proves to them it didnt happen. it isnt fair how they get to talk their ignorant views when its clear that god cant be disproved. its clear that we were created and its clear that ppl who speak badly of god will be goin to hell when they die. anyway, if u get too upset by it just remember that we will be in heaven while they r burnin in hell. The Flying Spaghetti Monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 Try not to stray off-topic. This includes quoting South Park by talking about 'flying spaghetti monsters.' SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Try not to stray off-topic. This includes quoting South Park by talking about 'flying spaghetti monsters.' Yes, but you do realize that everything 4737_Carlin said was pure crap, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issy2 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 yeh i agree with u 100%, why are us christians being persacuted just for our faith that jesus is our lord and savior. atheists are just ignorant to christ's glory and when they make posts about something that is no more than religion (evolution) they get to have a go at any1 who proves to them it didnt happen. it isnt fair how they get to talk their ignorant views when its clear that god cant be disproved. its clear that we were created and its clear that ppl who speak badly of god will be goin to hell when they die. anyway, if u get too upset by it just remember that we will be in heaven while they r burnin in hell. Ah now, here is the reason why Christians and other religious people are often generalised and badly treated. Many Christians are so sure they're right - 'omg, I will go to heaven, you willl suffer everlasting torture in hell' that the athiests get sick of it and start insulting them. I have no idea whether God exists or not. I however am firmly against religion and I often feel unfriendly to people who are dedicated devoted Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Siekhs, or any other religion, because I'm terrified of saying something wrong :roll: . Religion causes so much trouble, I'm not sure it's worth it. Even right here on this forum it's happening before our eyes - athiests and Christians/other religions just aren't willing to get along. ^Same goes for athiests. I'm such a hypocrite lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfdude3 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Okay I've noticed that many topics in this forum are biased toward 'there is no God, anyone who believes in God are all fools.' Many Christians feel they are unfairly treated (as well as anyone who practices another religion). You can go to a topic with many atheists on it, say it's about evolution, and you'll see a flame war. The Atheists will call the religious people 'ignorant zealots' and make posts like 'Get the hell off this thread; any religious posts will not be tolerated and will be reported.' I do not believe that someone should be criticized for their faith. I mean if Christians are right, they'll go to Heaven, and Atheists will all [bleep]. So what's the use of Atheists getting so pissed off all the time? Instead of 'These ignorant zealots will not keep a civilized conversation, it's quite the contrary.' ...wow. You realize that there are about 2.1 billion christians in the world, with only about 3.8% of the worlds population calling themselves Atheists. And you talk about how horrible it is to be a Christian, and to be trodden down by these awful Atheists.... Think of how the atheists feel. They have nothing to belive in AND they have to put up with all the crap that all the other religions have to put up with. Don't you think Atheists wish that there was a God and Heaven? Who would not like this to exist? Maybe atheists are just more realistic. How do you believe people are treated for their faith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 Remember, do not flame/stray off-topic. I'll be back on these forums later, and any of these posts I will get a moderator such as BlueLander/Ragen to clean up to keep it from getting into a biased arguement. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfdude3 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 nevermind, I sort of double posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Ah now, here is the reason why Christians and other religious people are often generalised and badly treated. Many Christians are so sure they're right - 'omg, I will go to heaven, you willl suffer everlasting torture in hell' that the athiests get sick of it and start insulting them. I have no idea whether God exists or not. I however am firmly against religion and I often feel unfriendly to people who are dedicated devoted Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Siekhs, or any other religion, because I'm terrified of saying something wrong :roll: . Religion causes so much trouble, I'm not sure it's worth it. Even right here on this forum it's happening before our eyes - athiests and Christians/other religions just aren't willing to get along. ^Same goes for athiests. I'm such a hypocrite lol. I think I understand, issy. Religion is fine. It's when each religion launches personal attacks on the others that makes it bad. It's one of the reasons why I left Christianity. I just wish that each religion could respect everyone else's views and beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwarfdude3 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Try not to stray off-topic. This includes quoting South Park by talking about 'flying spaghetti monsters.' Flying Spaghetti Monster wasn't invented by South Park. I knew about it long before that episode (which wasen't even all that great). http://www.venganza.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Okay I've noticed that many topics in this forum are biased toward 'there is no God, anyone who believes in God are all fools.' Many Christians feel they are unfairly treated (as well as anyone who practices another religion). You can go to a topic with many atheists on it, say it's about evolution, and you'll see a flame war. The Atheists will call the religious people 'ignorant zealots' and make posts like 'Get the hell off this thread; any religious posts will not be tolerated and will be reported.' I do not believe that someone should be criticized for their faith. I mean if Christians are right, they'll go to Heaven, and Atheists will all [bleep]. So what's the use of Atheists getting so pissed off all the time? Instead of 'These ignorant zealots will not keep a civilized conversation, it's quite the contrary.' ...wow. You realize that there are about 2.1 billion christians in the world, with only about 3.8% of the worlds population calling themselves Atheists. And you talk about how horrible it is to be a Christian, and to be trodden down by these awful Atheists.... Think of how the atheists feel. They have nothing to belive in AND they have to put up with all the crap that all the other religions have to put up with. Not to mention the threats of hellfire that have appeared numerous times already on this thread. Don't you think Atheists wish that there was a God and Heaven? Who would not like this to exist? Maybe atheists are just more realistic. There are about 1.1 billion atheists, or roughly 10%. You can check the website for other "denominations". Just don't post any personal flames, general, reasoned critique is o.k. and expected. Debating theological flaws is not the same as directly attacking a person's faith and beliefs he has had for possibly all of his life. It's ignorant to argue in a belittling way no matter what a person believes (though, discussion does require all parties to read sources provided by each other given they are reliable) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Remember, do not flame/stray off-topic. I'll be back on these forums later, and any of these posts I will get a moderator such as BlueLander/Ragen to clean up to keep it from getting into a biased arguement. The only argument is a biased argument in an opinion poll. Now you know how I felt when people did this to the evolutionists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4737_Carlin Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 yeh i agree with u 100%, why are us christians being persacuted just for our faith that jesus is our lord and savior. atheists are just ignorant to christ's glory and when they make posts about something that is no more than religion (evolution) they get to have a go at any1 who proves to them it didnt happen. it isnt fair how they get to talk their ignorant views when its clear that god cant be disproved. its clear that we were created and its clear that ppl who speak badly of god will be goin to hell when they die. anyway, if u get too upset by it just remember that we will be in heaven while they r burnin in hell. Ah now, here is the reason why Christians and other religious people are often generalised and badly treated. Many Christians are so sure they're right - 'omg, I will go to heaven, you willl suffer everlasting torture in hell' that the athiests get sick of it and start insulting them. u cant blame us. it is frustrating to see ppl who just cant see how things are even when its this simple. it makes us think there kinda thick tbh. :roll: :roll: Evolution is a philosophy unsupported by the majority of scientific observations whose influence has been a detriment to society and true scientific advancement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 u cant blame us. it is frustrating to see ppl who just cant see how things are even when its this simple. it makes us think there kinda thick tbh. :roll: :roll: Im sorry Carlin, your not always right. Can you please understand that and respect other peoples' opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdean Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 When someone takes a religion upon themselves, all who are not that religion will disagree with tem. arguements are almost guaranted to ensue, but that's life. I'm agnostic personally, and therefore try to keep an open mind, but it seems the worst culprits are the followers of the Abrahmic reigions (Christianity, Judaism and Islam). Now, I'm not trying to instigate flaming (that's going to happen anyway), but this is most likely due to the violent history of these religions, and the fact that they are so large that they are seen as able to handle insults, or due to the millitant way in which they attempt to convert others to their cause (in contrast to, say, Hinduism) ::incomplete:: Back by popular demand!And I guess I just wanted to tell you, as the light starts to fade, that you aree the reason, that I am not afraid, and I guess I just wanted to mention, as the heavens will fall, that we will be together soon if we will be anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issy2 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 yeh i agree with u 100%, why are us christians being persacuted just for our faith that jesus is our lord and savior. atheists are just ignorant to christ's glory and when they make posts about something that is no more than religion (evolution) they get to have a go at any1 who proves to them it didnt happen. it isnt fair how they get to talk their ignorant views when its clear that god cant be disproved. its clear that we were created and its clear that ppl who speak badly of god will be goin to hell when they die. anyway, if u get too upset by it just remember that we will be in heaven while they r burnin in hell. Ah now, here is the reason why Christians and other religious people are often generalised and badly treated. Many Christians are so sure they're right - 'omg, I will go to heaven, you willl suffer everlasting torture in hell' that the athiests get sick of it and start insulting them. u cant blame us. it is frustrating to see ppl who just cant see how things are even when its this simple. it makes us think there kinda thick tbh. :roll: :roll: But it's not that simple. Some want to believe - some don't. There is no solid proof for the existence or non existence of God, and until someone finds some, which I doubt anyone will, as rushrock said, people need to learn to respect and accept other people's beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffery Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 they should be treated how their god does it but im saturnist muhahahah :twisted: :twisted: 180th to 99 Divination + 1st W36er Rambo, cannot pk call your friends bro :). Wait nevermind none of SAPK/PKS can. Kappa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 im saturnist Really I worshiped Pluto but then I found out it wasnt a planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 yeh i agree with u 100%, why are us christians being persacuted just for our faith that jesus is our lord and savior. atheists are just ignorant to christ's glory and when they make posts about something that is no more than religion (evolution) they get to have a go at any1 who proves to them it didnt happen. it isnt fair how they get to talk their ignorant views when its clear that god cant be disproved. its clear that we were created and its clear that ppl who speak badly of god will be goin to hell when they die. anyway, if u get too upset by it just remember that we will be in heaven while they r burnin in hell. Ah now, here is the reason why Christians and other religious people are often generalised and badly treated. Many Christians are so sure they're right - 'omg, I will go to heaven, you willl suffer everlasting torture in hell' that the athiests get sick of it and start insulting them. u cant blame us. it is frustrating to see ppl who just cant see how things are even when its this simple. it makes us think there kinda thick tbh. :roll: :roll: You have a right to believe anything you want. You can tell others why they should believe so. You can't tell other people you are sure of something when you have no real proof. I don't try to convert you to agnostism/atheism/the chocolate lightsaber religion or whatever somebody may want to believe in, I, like everybody else, have absolutely no proof of a God's existence (or lack thereof), neither do you. A debate doesn't equal what you're pretty much doing in every post, i.e. claiming "I'm right, you all are thick, and I know I'm right and nothing can change my mind." There are more hindus, muslims and jews combined than christians, maybe they think the same as well? Their belief is 'infallible'. That creates a deadlock, and none of the religions can prove proof "why" their religion is the best. They just believe what they are taught. You don't need to accept any religions at all, but you should accept the fact that people have different beliefs, and just because you believe something, does not make it right if it has no factual reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 You have a right to believe anything you want. You can tell others why they should believe so. You can't tell other people you are sure of something when you have no real proof. I don't try to convert you to agnostism/atheism/the chocolate lightsaber religion or whatever somebody may want to believe in, I, like everybody else, have absolutely no proof of a God's existence (or lack thereof), neither do you. A debate doesn't equal what you're pretty much doing in every post, i.e. claiming "I'm right, you all are thick, and I know I'm right and nothing can change my mind." There are more hindus, muslims and jews combined than christians, maybe they think the same as well? Their belief is 'infallible'. That creates a deadlock, and none of the religions can prove proof "why" their religion is the best. They just believe what they are taught. You don't need to accept any religions at all, but you should accept the fact that people have different beliefs, and just because you believe something, does not make it right if it has no factual reasoning. All his posts are like that, I usually just skip over them and ignore them. But not everyone else does, and he usually ends up starting flame wars. One mod deleted all his posts in the evolution thread because of it. Im starting to think he should get posting privlages revoked on the OT forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 If there was a God, it would be completely illogical to think that It'd be specific to any religion. Too bad religions seem to think they're right and everyone's wrong, which is where all this fighting comes from. [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4737_Carlin Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 You have a right to believe anything you want. You can tell others why they should believe so. You can't tell other people you are sure of something when you have no real proof. I don't try to convert you to agnostism/atheism/the chocolate lightsaber religion or whatever somebody may want to believe in, I, like everybody else, have absolutely no proof of a God's existence (or lack thereof), neither do you. A debate doesn't equal what you're pretty much doing in every post, i.e. claiming "I'm right, you all are thick, and I know I'm right and nothing can change my mind." There are more hindus, muslims and jews combined than christians, maybe they think the same as well? Their belief is 'infallible'. That creates a deadlock, and none of the religions can prove proof "why" their religion is the best. They just believe what they are taught. You don't need to accept any religions at all, but you should accept the fact that people have different beliefs, and just because you believe something, does not make it right if it has no factual reasoning. All his posts are like that, I usually just skip over them and ignore them. But not everyone else does, and he usually ends up starting flame wars. One mod deleted all his posts in the evolution thread because of it. Im starting to think he should get posting privlages revoked on the OT forums. there u go again u fashist, tryin to silence the christians again. im startin to think u shud get posting privalages revoked on this forum. u dont have a shred of evidence for evolution, u may pretend to but its all false anyway. we christians are teh voice of reason and we will not be silenced. Evolution is a philosophy unsupported by the majority of scientific observations whose influence has been a detriment to society and true scientific advancement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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