warri0r45 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Noahs ark and that whole deal. I'd like to ask some of the theists out there a few questions, as my knowlege on the issue is severely lacking. Note that I want answers based on what the Christain religion and the Bible says. 1. Did it cover the entire earth? 2. Obviously it was a supernatural occurance, correct (in other words, did god make the rain and recession happen)? I'm just curious because, as I've seen on the net, there are some who try to prove that it happened scientifically, which is odd because everything about it seems supernatural and science only deals with the natural. Anyway to avoid this turning into another 20-pager, I'd like to make the mods aware that I'll ask to lock it after I get some answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrazotis Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 if it did cover the whole earth, wat happened to all the water, wouldnt it still be here if it could cover every bit of land...? well i got no idea thanks to mitsubishi64 who made this sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korla Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 if it did cover the whole earth, wat happened to all the water, wouldnt it still be here if it could cover every bit of land...? well i got no idea I think part of the scientific theory is something like "it covered all the land" is actually a people's belief that it covered all the land, not that it actually covered ALL the land. They have some signs on rocks in I think Italy or east of that in the Mediterranean that there was a great flood there, where the water was like 20 meters higher than it is today, which possibly could make people think it was God's wrath punishing people. And to the OP, they might say it is good, but since he's omnipotent he can make it look like nature was the cause, so supernatural or not, it's not like his hand came full of water and threw it across the lands, rather he made it rain for very long or something, see what I'm getting at? The scientific evidence might still be there. But it's all mumbo jumbo to me :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted February 22, 2007 Author Share Posted February 22, 2007 if it did cover the whole earth, wat happened to all the water, wouldnt it still be here if it could cover every bit of land...? well i got no idea Im thinking that it's not supposed to have a scientific explanation i.e. it was totally supernatural. Well unless a Christain knows otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 if it did cover the whole earth, wat happened to all the water, wouldnt it still be here if it could cover every bit of land...? well i got no ideaWell, you've got the Greenland Ice Sheet, which if melted would only raise water levels by a meager 7m or so. And you got Antartica Ice Sheet, which if melted would raise water levels by 61m; hardly enough to really flood the land, unless you lived in a low-set country. Still wouldn't completely drown Isreal (highest point: 2224m above sea level). Or most countries along the coast in that area anyways now what I think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolgool Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 The bible says the flood did cover the entire earth, leaving Moses and Co floating around for 40 days. When God figured they had been punished enough, he made all the water recede to who knows where. Hope I helped. The code in my sig should say 1032 not 0132. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemathonical Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Ok, now this may be a really stupid and off topic question...but Were Adam and Eve and Moses etc around before or after the dinosaurs? ^Sir Jem 05-The Bunny Drinking Blog?^ Click it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted February 22, 2007 Author Share Posted February 22, 2007 Ok, now this may be a really stupid and off topic question...but Were Adam and Eve and Moses etc around before or after the dinosaurs? Well supposedly dinosaurs would of had to be created before the first humans i.e. adam and eve, from the Christian account. Moses came after the creation account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 If if you are a Christian you'd be a fool to take Genesis literally. As for the flood actually happeneing, there is geological evidence that suggests that a few thousand years ago that there were many parts of the world that hiugh very high water levels. In the days of no remote communications, phone, internet, to an uneducated person it would be quite easy to think that the whole world was flooded, people had no idea of the sheer size of Earth back when it was written. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman247m Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 My understanding of this situation is that it covered the entire world that the people of the time knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kido14 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 ... leaving Moses and Co floating around for 40 days.... :wall: This probably won't help, but the story of the flood is in a ton of different religions all around the world. If I had time I would find a figure. Could be a coincidence(sp) but who knows? Last.fm: http://www.last.fm/user/Aaronm14/MY FAVORITE BAND:http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... d=64310717And the bible is the big book of lies, call me a racist if you must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigra00 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Ok, now this may be a really stupid and off topic question...but Were Adam and Eve and Moses etc around before or after the dinosaurs? Yea, that is a pretty stupid question. The popularity of any given religion today depends on the victories of the wars they fought in the past. - Me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron8000 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 My understanding of this situation is that it covered the entire world that the people of the time knew. Exactly right, the flood covered all of "their" world I.E. the world that they knew which obviously means not the Americas etc. The communication point is also excellent, with no communication outside of messengers and word of mouth it would not take much for the "whole world" to be flooded - remember this was not far after the time when the horizon was the end of the world. That and dinosaurs arent really mentioned in the Bible :wink: but it would spice it up a bit :lol: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ortiz9471 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 I think whether or not the flood happened depends on your religion :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 The bible says the flood did cover the entire earth, leaving Moses and Co floating around for 40 days. When God figured they had been punished enough, he made all the water recede to who knows where. Hope I helped. Noah...Moses was several thousand years after the Flood. Ok, now this may be a really stupid and off topic question...but Were Adam and Eve and Moses etc around before or after the dinosaurs? After My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Exactly right, the flood covered all of "their" world I.E. the world that they knew which obviously means not the Americas etc. The communication point is also excellent, with no communication outside of messengers and word of mouth it would not take much for the "whole world" to be flooded - remember this was not far after the time when the horizon was the end of the world. That and dinosaurs arent really mentioned in the Bible :wink: but it would spice it up a bit :lol: .Read my first post. Even if the Greenland and Antartic ice sheets metled, that's a net water sea-level gain of 68m. Isreal's highest point is 2224m. There are HILLS higher than that. So unless their "world" was a few km's UNDER sea-level, their "world" must've been like the Netherlands, dead flat and right next to the sea. Although that aint the case now is it. Since the known world at the time did consist of mountains and what not, which are higher than 68m now aren't they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Why even bother attributing the Flood to Science? God can destroy the world any way he wants, why limit him to Newton's Laws? My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 The great flood that Noah supposedly went through was probably just a metaphor that...well...actually, what point was it trying to get at? The world is flooded, Noah gathers up the animals, they make an ark, and they survive. Where's the moral? Maybe that story is completely useless. That's what I always thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Why even bother attributing the Flood to Science? God can destroy the world any way he wants, why limit him to Newton's Laws?Because it's about time he drowned all the sinners against an cleanses the earth :uhh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Why even bother attributing the Flood to Science? God can destroy the world any way he wants, why limit him to Newton's Laws? If you take that apporach then convientley all of Gods work can't be proved by us and by that token, disproved. Which to me is a cop-out. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Why even bother attributing the Flood to Science? God can destroy the world any way he wants, why limit him to Newton's Laws? If you take that apporach then convientley all of Gods work can't be proved by us and by that token, disproved. Which to me is a cop-out. Well, if you believe in God, I think you're supposed to have faith that he did all of that stuff. It can't be proved, but it doesn't need to be. You've got to have faith that He exists and that He did all of that stuff. I don't think his work was meant to be proved or disproved. I'm not Christian, by the way. Just mentioning that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 I think whether or not the flood happened depends on your religion :D I wouldn't say it's as black and white as that. There has been findings to indicate a giant flood over the world, although, given the geographical ages of the Earth it's not totally beyond belief to be a natural occurrence. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 If if you are a Christian you'd be a fool to take Genesis literally. As for the flood actually happeneing, there is geological evidence that suggests that a few thousand years ago that there were many parts of the world that hiugh very high water levels. In the days of no remote communications, phone, internet, to an uneducated person it would be quite easy to think that the whole world was flooded, people had no idea of the sheer size of Earth back when it was written. The other thing is that people are known to stretch the truth. That coupled with their small knowledge of the world probaly led them to belive *the entire world* was flooded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magekillr Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 i'll never know if everything in the Bible was literal...but i accept it as truth. it doesn't really matter to be honest with you...scientists feel if they disprove one part of it then they can discredit the whole thing (which is true). and they take the easiest stories (this or Jonah or walking on water) to discredit it. no one will ever know what to be taken literal, what to be taken as parable, what to be taken as a just a story...that's why it doesn't matter how you interpret it, but believe that JC died for your sins, and beat death by rising again, and will reward everyone who shares this faith with his presence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmage099 Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 ...Correct me if I am wrong, but to be a part of an Abrahamic religion, you do not have to agree with everything. I accept that parts of it are exaggeratedly...well really exaggerated. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Trix.--quit WoW as of 12/07Thank you 4be2jue for the wonderful sig and avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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