Finding fast Pest Control Worlds using the World Monitor

It is possible to get very reliable the fast pc worlds even without joining a clan. Of course if you can join a clan, than it is usually the best to join a clan. And if you are too low level then pcing does not make sense at all. But for the rest it could be interesting to take a look at the "World Monitor":

http://www.rscommunity.de/index.php?opt ... &Itemid=57

It is an autoupdating image where the numbers of players of each member world is drawn vs. time for the last 60min. With a bit training you will find it quite easy to see from the evolution of the player numbers where the large and fast pest control teams currently are. On the right side the worlds are labeled with their world number, and a short line connecting the label with the graph.

Whenever a large pc team changes worlds, you will see a steep rise in player numbers in the new world. The number of players will then continue to rise until the world gets too slow and the core team changes world. You will notice the point when the core team changes world ingame, and you can see it very well on the image. Its the point where the player number in that world stops from rising. At this point look which world starts rising again, and check it out. Most of the time the first guess for the next world is correct.

Here a sample image where it is marked where a good pc team has been playing at that time (grey thick marking):

The world monitor itself is on a german rscommunity page, but it should be no problem using the tool without knowing any German.

I post this here, because I have seen many players looking for fast the pc worlds who haven't been able to join one of pc clans. And they haven't always been low levels. For many low levels it is difficult to gain 50 hits in time, so they don't want the fastest world anyway. But there are some players which do not want to use irc chat, or have been kicked out of pc teams for beeing too low level one day (while they still have been cmb 100+, so not that bad for pcing).

.: Systemless :.

But most good pc clans which offer good games hop like after every 15min to 30min?

So by the time you notice the the increasing amount of members by looking at graph there already could of had passed like 8minutes?

You'll still have good games though so yea maybe it's indeed useful for those lower lvls

But yea I suppose it could work but joining a clan is still easier

The teams change worlds usually every 30min. The first 3min when a team logs into a new world are usually bad anyway, since you haven't gotten enough players to fill boat after boat. After 5min from time zero of a new world, the worlds are usually running very well, and thats exactly the point where you will be able to see the world on the monitor. The monitor image updates about every 2min, so the delay you have there is very small.

Its easy, when you can't see a significant increase on the monitor, then the team is still to small to keep a world running boat after boat. As soon as it is large enough it is visible as well.

Of course joing a good clan is usually the better choice. But this method works pretty well, and you don't have to abide by any clan rules.

.: Systemless :.

wow, very creative way to find pc world. How often are you successful in finding a good world? There are several other possibility of rapid change in a world's player count, how do you distinguish this from the others? What's your failure rate?

When I suggested this a while ago (although I worded it quite differently) I got flamed to kingdom come by all the pcers who were trying to keep noobs away! i only posted because I quit using it in favour of slayer.

This is quite a common method of finding worlds already, as I found out, and many people use this, but it's nice to share. :D

The failure rate in finding a good world depends on the time of the day. When all worlds are crowded with 1800+ players it is a lot more difficult to find it. Overall the first guess is usually correct int about 75% of the cases. With the second guess its even higher. I hardly ever need to try more than 3 worlds. Usually its 1 or 2.

Yes there are other changes in the amount of players, but most can be distingushed.

a) Group of worlds (like 2-5 worlds) is rising continously but slower than the usual pc world. And the worlds rise with player numbers very close to each other. That happens at some times of the day, for example when australia gets online. Pest control worlds rise almost always "alone", without other worlds following the same numbers.

B) In the large chaos of worlds at the bottom (lowest number of players) you can see from time to time a world jumping up from beeing at the bottom of this chaos and going to the top of it. This is caused by the "select best world button" trying to balance the load. The players are usually sent to the world with the smallest number of players for a given server distance. Since all players get the same "emptiest" world at a time, it moves from the bottom to the top of the "bottom world bunch". These worlds are not pest control worlds even though they rise fast (but only for step, then they fall again).

c) Usually you can see the trace of the largest pest control group. A new rise has to start where another world started falling. A significant rise without a visible falling of another world is usually not a pest control team.

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Very nice. But I'm 92 combat, so I'm high enough to join a good clan. But for the lower levels who like to act like Exp leeches, very nice.

Sounds like something I did when I went to pc. I just looked at unusual amounts of players in a world and usually got the world within two world switches.

i was in a PC clan once and we changed worlds really quikly.

plus if your in a good enoung pc clan you will play later at night and make your own pc worlds.. good idea but i think you would have to watch it very closely.

it seems like a good idea, but also like its too much trouble compared to joining a clan. The biggest problem however is that the webisite is in german.

I have been in a very good pc clan for some time as well (until they kicked me for not leveling combat fast enough at lvl 102).

Compared to clans, the pcing with the monitor has had its advantages as well. At times when one team is not running perfectly, you can easily switch to another team. Most clans don't allow members to join more than one team.

For me the overall comfort was about the same with the monitor as with a clan. At least if you help scouting new worlds for the clan as I did from time to time. And you need to look for the times when your team hops as well when you join the team.

I know of course, that playing with pc teams without joining them is not in the original spirit of the teams. Running a pc team is a lot of work (watching for leaks, scouting worlds, operating channels, ...). But on the other hand I think I did never any harm by playing on any teams worlds (I attack portals only).

.: Systemless :.

The teams change worlds usually every 30min. The first 3min when a team logs into a new world are usually bad anyway, since you haven't gotten enough players to fill boat after boat. After 5min from time zero of a new world, the worlds are usually running very well, and thats exactly the point where you will be able to see the world on the monitor. The monitor image updates about every 2min, so the delay you have there is very small.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its easy, when you can't see a significant increase on the monitor, then the team is still to small to keep a world running boat after boat. As soon as it is large enough it is visible as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course joing a good clan is usually the better choice. But this method works pretty well, and you don't have to abide by any clan rules.

 

 

 

Nice idea, but I wonder if it will always work.

Btw our (ZPS) worlds will change after every 15-20min at 2pm-12pm gmt. We will only make it to 30min if we have problems with finding an empty world or at times when there are not a lot of players online.

And one more question.. What to do if we join a world with 1800+ players in it, like you can see in your picture? These worlds will be full when you find our team, so I wonder if it this trick always work :XD:

It works far better than I would have guessed before using it. First I thought it could be a helpfull tool to make pcing without clan a bit better. But in the end, the comfort is about the same as with clan. And I played with the seersirc based heartreturns clan for some time (before beeing kicked for to low combat level).

The reason why it works so good, is that jagex balances the load on the world with the "choose best world" button. The large amount of worlds is kept at the same level of players. And that good teams have to be large, making them visible in player numbers.

There are only very few time where it is hard to use the monitor. On weekends when there are 1850+ players in all worlds for example.

And one more question.. What to do if we join a world with 1800+ players in it, like you can see in your picture? These worlds will be full when you find our team, so I wonder if it this trick always work

You need to join a world with 1900+ players to have a chance that I would miss it before it reaches 2000 players. And the space of 100 players is usually to small for the large teams (so core team members would not be able to log in either). And beside this, you get usually a few chances to enter worlds even they are almost full.

.: Systemless :.

Hey! not another way to find out the coveted Heart Unit worlds :-(. I have noticed that whenever we switch worlds, the population goes up 300-400+... Still, you'd be better off just joining a clan, or using things like Heart Unit's old world (publicly available here) then spending forever world hopping, only to find the world just as it is switched....

Anyway, very few people under level 90 could get 50+ damage on our new worlds, for the first few minutes before newbs slow it down. At 102 combat, I still miss zeal regularly on new worlds. At the very best, there's not even enough time for 4 dd++ specs, and the game's over. Very few monsters spawn, so the only damage can be done on the portal, which has very high defense.

not sure what the names are of the teams that are very easy to see on the world monitor. These days there are two large teams, one very well visible (100% of my world guesses are right) and another smaller one, which is a bit more difficult to see.

And usuing old worlds is usually worse than just having the world monitor open in the background, at least if the fast worlds are not too fast for you.

.: Systemless :.

You're lvl 100+ yourself and you give pures and newbies a way to find the good worlds? Why?

Great, now noobs with even half a brain can follow us. Good job.

Joining a clan is much easier and they hop more often than an hour.

the easiest way is to have peopel from heart unit on your friends list, that leave their chat on friends, so i can see the world ;) works espically nice for training my pure :)

This is actually a very good way of finding PC worlds =D> .

It has yet to fail me. Just have to make sure you switch often. Thanks!

For me the motivation was, that one day I found myself been kicked out of one very nice and good pc team (real pc team, which started their own worlds), for having not leveled combat fast enough. Of course it was still possible to play by following friends, or friends following friends following friends. But that method was not reliable. At times when I had bit time to play, the needed friends have been offline. Knowing from experience that you can be kicked out of a clan very fast, as well without any reason (not even low combat), I needed a new way, not trying with joining another clan (which had all to high requirements by then anyway).

Beside this, I knew how following friends can bring problems to these friends if the team found out. I didn't want anyone to risk this for me. By inspiring my choices in worlds from the world monitor, I am free to take a world or another. I can give it to a good friend, if I think he does not harm the world by playing there. In the end I think I did never any damage to the worlds I played on.

For posting this here I have two reasons. First almost anyone I met doubted that this method actually works. Most tell me that it is not worth the trouble and all, so it can't be really a problem then, can it? Second reason, you have to understand the image yourself. Without taking the time to understand it is of no help. If you know how to use it, you are not a complete noob. Third, I didn't like the idea which some teams have, that they can play god in runescape, desciding who can play on the fast worlds and who can't. And its not like anyone can start its own team. The amount of players is too much limited.

I see as well the problems of posting this. But keep in mind that the real problem is not that it is posted here, but that the world hopping is not as secret as some players believe. Finally this post doesn't really change anything.

.: Systemless :.

I use it to suggest good worlds at #Thepc (100+ Cmb) on SwiftIrc.

It's not hard, just keep it open on the background while doing pc and check out a world when lots of people start to join. Found a 115+ cb world this way today.

this doesn't really help much because by the time you can see a good world, most of the high leveled players have left.

well you can easily find a "decent" world this way..

btw check out the screeny I made earlier:

Something really strange happened in w 69 lol... a friend told me later a high ranked player (no names :P) put his private on for a minute..

EDIT: why can't I post images anymore??? is Tip.it also going this way from not allowing any websites??

One slight problem on this. I think you will find that this sort of thing falls into the same category as the active sigs and is therefore illegal. I don't think we should be encouraging people to break the rules.