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I think since someone always finds a Jagex hint or something similar.

 

 

 

I mean these speculations threads really have no hard discussions behind them it's just people making up ideas and throwing them into a hat. It's just a bunch of mombo jumbo to be honest.

 

 

 

This sub-fourm will help them go and investigate on their own and with other people who believe them.

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There isn't many threads now about theories so having another sub-forum wpuld be pointless. I can see that forum being spammed with the useless predicitons like a word that was leaked on the Jagex page will mean that we get 3 new quests.

 

Or maybe have it in the hidden updates sticky.

 

Or as Errdoth said, Bugs, Suggestions and F.U. Make a subforum there?

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Well there's like one or two on the main page but people I guess can create ones on like the Elf City, Plague Series, Blood Altar and Soul, The other half of RuneScape, Blood Tallie, Crystal Halberd, New Quest, Hazelmere Prediction!-The Path of Glophire Quest.

 

 

 

I seen tons of them and all people do is post a sentence. Like I said "No Hard Discussions" behind them.

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Well there's like one or two on the main page but people I guess can create ones on like the Elf City, Plague Series, Blood Altar and Soul, The other half of RuneScape, Blood Tallie, Crystal Halberd, New Quest, Hazelmere Prediction!-The Path of Glophire Quest.

 

 

 

I seen tons of them and all people do is post a sentence. Like I said "No Hard Discussions" behind them.

 

 

 

Well if there is no hard discussion about it then why would a sub forum be needed? It will just flood with heaps of posts with only 4 replies.

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Well there's like one or two on the main page but people I guess can create ones on like the Elf City, Plague Series, Blood Altar and Soul, The other half of RuneScape, Blood Tallie, Crystal Halberd, New Quest, Hazelmere Prediction!-The Path of Glophire Quest.

 

 

 

I seen tons of them and all people do is post a sentence. Like I said "No Hard Discussions" behind them.

 

 

 

Well if there is no hard discussion about it then why would a sub forum be needed? It will just flood with heaps of posts with only 4 replies.

 

 

 

Questionnaires was made into a sub fourm. :?

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Well there's like one or two on the main page but people I guess can create ones on like the Elf City, Plague Series, Blood Altar and Soul, The other half of RuneScape, Blood Tallie, Crystal Halberd, New Quest, Hazelmere Prediction!-The Path of Glophire Quest.

 

 

 

I seen tons of them and all people do is post a sentence. Like I said "No Hard Discussions" behind them.

 

 

 

Well if there is no hard discussion about it then why would a sub forum be needed? It will just flood with heaps of posts with only 4 replies.

 

 

 

Questionnaires was made into a sub fourm. :?

 

 

 

They are a different thing all together. Questionnaires will get posts. Whereas some theories won't

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I thought General was for runescape update theories?

 

 

 

There isn't a need, and the theories only appear after Jagex sends out a newsletter, or behind the scenes, with the average 1 or two floating about every month.

 

 

 

General has many types of topics, just because you don't like one, doesn't mean the rest of us don't find them interesting in to discuss. I could say topics evaluating an aspect of runescape hold no discussion, yet thats obviously not true. Same goes for theories, there are those who will discuss, and debate that theory to death, or to life. Theory topics are a part of General, you can't take them out.

 

 

 

I mean these speclations threads really have no hard discussions behind them it's just people making up ideas and throwing them into a hat. It's just a bunch of mombo jumbo to be honest.

 

Not true, I believe every 1/4 of the predictions made here by users will come to light in-game. Tons of users were debating over the big black square where the god dungeon is, before the dungeon was even mentioned. That theory also brought up a lot of debates as well.

 

 

 

There's more, when jagex said about carpentry(construction) what gave the players the idea to think about houses, and not wood working? How many detailed outlines of the skill actually came quite close to the skill itself? A lot did, and all thanks to those who made the theory, and those who participated in it.

 

 

 

There is no problem, they only come about every first month, then die off, and they do give the users a large view of what a future update could be, or plot line.

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To go along further with skatedog's arguements, I don't think a second subforum is really necessary. Questionnaires were piling up in the general board, that is exactly why a seperate subforum was made. Theories, on the other hand, make up a fraction of topics on the GB.

 

 

 

Also- by creating a third division of the GB you are spliting the traffic. GB users have always loved the large number of people on the board because topics get answered faster than any other forum(even the staff takes advantage of this sometimes). I think it would be best to preserve the GB's high popularity.

 

 

 

To add to skatedogs' arguments cocerning amount of discussion in the theory topics- topics of these types can actually evolve into a large discussion; where the theory itself is sometimes changed and re-arranged by strong arguements into a very likely, acceptable future update.

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The GEneral discussion is sometimes pasted with "specualtion" threads. This sounds like a good idea that would clean the general forum of that sort of thing. Nice thinkin and it would make people thin more rather than flame

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The General discussion is sometimes pasted with "speculation" threads. This sounds like a good idea that would clean the general forum of that sort of thing. Nice thinking and it would make people thin more rather than flame

 

 

 

That's very true. When people post "speculation" threads....all people do is flame the author and usually tell them to stop thinking and just play the game. (I'll admit I've done this.) But with this subfourm they can just go there and not have to worry about getting flamed and can speculate with themselves and other fellow forum peer members.

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That's very true. When people post "speculation" threads....all people do is flame the author and usually tell them to stop thinking and just play the game. (I'll admit I've done this.) But with this subforum they can just go there and not have to worry about getting flamed and can speculate with themselves and other fellow forum peer members.

 

This is untrue. Speculations about unknown, or hard to believe updates, that are backed up with good evidence, such as chaos elemental, jagex mods, in-game creatures/actions, quest hints, and good wording would contribute to a non-flame discussion, which has happened a lot more then when authors get flamed. The authors who do get flamed get flamed for posting words that make little to no sense, and have a paragraph on the speculation, with no good back up which allows flame to flourish. The authors who post maturely, and give evidence, and word it all properly do not get flamed. Those who ignore those such concepts will get flamed, for basically wasting the users time on a topic that is half made, and half heartedly done.

 

 

 

There is more good speculation threads then the bad speculation threads.

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That's very true. When people post "speculation" threads....all people do is flame the author and usually tell them to stop thinking and just play the game. (I'll admit I've done this.) But with this subforum they can just go there and not have to worry about getting flamed and can speculate with themselves and other fellow forum peer members.

 

This is untrue. Speculations about unknown, or hard to believe updates, that are backed up with good evidence, such as chaos elemental, jagex mods, in-game creatures/actions, quest hints, and good wording would contribute to a non-flame discussion, which has happened a lot more then when authors get flamed. The authors who do get flamed get flamed for posting words that make little to no sense, and have a paragraph on the speculation, with no good back up which allows flame to flourish. The authors who post maturely, and give evidence, and word it all properly do not get flamed. Those who ignore those such concepts will get flamed, for basically wasting the users time on a topic that is half made, and half heartedly done.

 

 

 

There is more good speculation threads then the bad speculation threads.

 

 

 

Your location is Fourm Updates & Suggestions so I guess you barley browse General. But that isn't really the point. Anyways if I was right now to post a thread on what's the next dragon amour/weapon and some evidence since theirs really not alot of info out there, I won't get flamed? Or post the occasional ones like Crystal Halberd? Blood Altar? New Skill?

 

 

 

True "some" were good like GWD and it's location even though they got it wrong. But trust me. There's more bad ones then good ones. And the good ones only get one sentence responses.

 

 

 

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Your location is Fourm Updates & Suggestions so I guess you barley browse General. But that isn't really the point. Anyways if I was right now to post a thread on what's the next dragon amour/weapon and some evidence since theirs really not alot of info out there, I won't get flamed? Or post the occasional ones like Crystal Halberd? Blood Altar? New Skill?

 

 

 

True "some" were good like GWD and it's location even though they got it wrong. But trust me. There's more bad ones then good ones. And the good ones only get one sentence responses.

 

I started out in General, so I won't leave General because I found a better forum, I browse general as my third priority, which means I go to it everyday.

 

 

 

You couldn't make a post about dragon armour if you know about the little evidence there is. Plus if you knew there's 30+ threads still floating in the top pages. By knowing these, you wouldn't post, but by not knowing you would post, and that's why you'd get flamed, the knowledge you don't know gets you flamed.

 

 

 

What I meant by author's posting maturely was researching their topic on General for they don't do a topic that is quite prompted to get flamed, that is posted multiple times, and is quite annoying to most of the user base.

 

 

 

The topics that aren't mature die faster then the good ones, I'd rather be getting topics that last twice as long as bad topics do.

 

 

 

You wouldn't believe the amount of people who are against it, your avatar is something I can fall in love with though.

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In my experience (which is unregretably very limited, I asure you), speculation threads tend to derive from a continuation in an already existant story line, such as the ME storyline, or the Myreque storyline etc.. These threads tend to evolve into more of a discussion about the storyline rather than the theory itself, and so it becomes a thread worth participating in. Therefore, I can't see a necessity to make a new sub-board for it. It deserves to be in the main General RS board.

 

 

 

Badly researched or purely hypothetical threads are usually shunned by the Tip.It community and locked by a passing mod in no time at all.

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Take out those types of thread from general and general will only become quieter. At the moment we still have posts from 16 hours ago on the first page. It's not like the 'theory' threads are overrunning and ruining General anyway.

 

 

 

And please add something more constructive than 'bump' next time. This isn't the market boards.

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Take out those types of thread from general and general will only become quieter. At the moment we still have posts from 16 hours ago on the first page. It's not like the 'theory' threads are overrunning and ruining General anyway.

 

 

 

And please add something more constructive than 'bump' next time. This isn't the market boards.

 

 

 

1. If your criteria is on how many posts a day there are made, you better take a look at tip its FANTASTIC clan discussion. There are topics on the first page with a last post 2640 hours ago. And on most helpsites the clan boards are more popular then the GD.

 

 

 

2. The man bumps it because with a lot of suggestions here there is no input at all. If it's good, staff agrees on it in the topic why hasn't it happened yet then? (for example putting a warning on bumping old topics by make users attach a field where they agree to post on a topic that's pretty old, or about the profile preview for signatures, ...) Why the hell do you guys have this board if there's no consequence out of the words? (hey where did that happen here before...)

 

 

 

3. On topic now: I do agree with Phil tho about the fact that GD can have a broad range of topics about a broad range of subjects. Only when it really gets annoying (like with the questions) a new subforum (e.g. Questionnaries) is needed.

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1. If your criteria is on how many posts a day there are made, you better take a look at tip its FANTASTIC clan discussion. There are topics on the first page with a last post 2640 hours ago. And on most helpsites the clan boards are more popular then the GD.

 

Yes I know you have something personal going on with the clan part of this forum. I'm not into the clan section at all so I am not the person to go moaning to, sorry. Your comment here isn't very relavent to our discussion at the moment though, it's a completely different board and will have different reasons as to why it's quiet. I was simply pointing out that removing 'theory' posts would make the general board worse than it already is.

 

 

 

 

2. The man bumps it because with a lot of suggestions here there is no input at all. If it's good, staff agrees on it in the topic why hasn't it happened yet then? (for example putting a warning on bumping old topics by make users attach a field where they agree to post on a topic that's pretty old, or about the profile preview for signatures, ...) Why the hell do you guys have this board if there's no consequence out of the words? (hey where did that happen here before...)

 

I think you have read into what I said wrongly. I said not to bump posts with simply 'bump' - it's basically spam. If people want to bump they can do so constructively. But this is a whole different discussion here and this isn't the place to discuss it. I'm not saying he should let his idea die.

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No, for the same reason that we joined the General F2P and P2P.

 

 

 

F2P and P2P were seperated before? Why didn't they keep it that way?

 

 

 

Because it did more trouble than good, at least from a moderator's perspective. The forums were divided into General (which was supposed to include any discussions that were not P2P specific, so they didn't necessarily have to be strictly F2P), and General P2P (which included any discussions that only related to the P2P players). But the problem was that people kept posting General topics in General P2P, where they didn't belong, because their thread would receive more traffic. We even had a couple incidents were people would do whatever they could to repost their thread in General P2P even after it was moved correctly to General. It was basically an ongoing headache for the moderators.

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I think a speculation forum would be a good idea. With Jagex cracking down on RWT I'm seeing more speculation threads about what they'll do to the game next.

 

 

 

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