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Of course, Power, that's why we need massive submissions. As for what Octarine posted, thanks. And I'm asking specific details from the Jmod that posted that. I don't expect a reply but I don't like the fact that I can tell or see randomizations in the wheel, and still can repeat my landings. It's funky looking if it's truly 100% random.

There's 203 pages in that thing..

Exact page #, please Octarine?

Feedback on this thread is great guys, thanks. Just need more submissions or information! If you have any info that you'd like to tell me, just post it. The form is just a way for me to get more precise details.

Possible known factors for where you will land on the wheel, to help with prediction: -Number of rotations -Location you clicked to stop on. -Location of your desired reward (not sure if rarity affects landing or spin speed yet). -If you see a flash, re-count rotations and wait again (not sure if anyone else regularly sees flashes or resets). My technique for: Item slot 2/"Rare" rating ------------------ Wait 7 to 9 rotations, stick with one amount of rotations if you are consistently aiming for item slot 2 during spins. RECOUNT ROTATIONS IF IT FLASHES Click stop, aiming 5 to 7 slots before/to the left (go all the way back to the right if you need to and go left from there) of item slot 2. Let me know where you began spinning, how many rotations and where it landed exactly. This is a slightly different and reverse method of the one I used to get 7-in-a-row on item slot 10. If you are confused and need a screenshot example of how to count item slots and stuff, detail your post with specifics and I'll try to help you out.

Brackish is crap, aside from a debatable spec. Ofc it's better than a whip on some high-def weak-to-stab monsters. Aside from that...Nope.jpg.

Example of a good submission: Free-Play or Members Squeal spin?: Free-Play Item slot # aimed for: Item slot 4 Number of estimated rotations after clicking stop (from where you assume you tried to stop): 3.7 rotations, or so. Number of item slots passed from the item slot you stopped on, to the one you landed on (optional): 33, or so. Estimated item slot # you attempted to stop spinning on: Item slot 7 What item slot # you landed on: Item slot 10 What reward did you get?: 50GP What exactly happened before you clicked to stop?: It seemed to skip over a few slots once or twice, I waited about 20 seconds before clicking stop. What exactly happened after you clicked to stop?: It began to slow, no flashes, but I didn't watch carefully enough for anything abnormal. What exactly happened as it was about to stop?: It slowed down, then quickly skipped over the item slot two before my reward, and just that slot. What rewards do you know exist on the wheel? (exact names please, optional): Divine, Elysian, Spectral, Arcane, Blessed spirit shields, Small to Huge lamps, for any and every skill. Med lamps and over are members-only. Members skill lamps are members-only. Wheel image submission(s) (pre-spin reward and rewards, optional): http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r596/Renderer_123/spinpre.png http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r596/Renderer_123/spinreward.png ---------------------------------------- I prefer to click stop about 3-6 slots before my desired item, because I assumed that it skips over a few items and/or goes past super-rare/rare/uncommon items faster than common/uncommon/rare items. That is why I clicked stop on item slot 4, rather than item slot 7. Check the post below or my first post for newer details on spins. This is semi-old. --------------------------------------- Reserved for top reward submissions (with pictures), possibly more post room, larger lists, Etc. Thank you.

Alright, it's probably hideous to see a post regarding research for any logical reasoning for the "Wheel of Squeal", as I like to call it, but please, bear with me until we can definitively say this is a completely random unpossible-to-predict-or-time sort of thing. Part 1: The debate. --------------------------------------------------------- Many people say that your item is chosen for you as soon as you hit the button: Of course it is. It's all luck and possibly timing. We'll see once we get enough information. Many people say that your item is chosen before you even go to spin or hit the button: That's very possible, but we do not know for sure. Here is the Quick-find Code to the Wheel's Jagex FAQ thread on RSOF regarding most questions involved: Quick find code: 15-16-565-63596265 Quote from that regarding spinning: The bolded out text is the important part to remember. They state that you'll never lose out on a prize, not necessarily the one you were going for, because you clicked at the wrong time or experienced lag. This is semi-hard to interpret. Basically you can choose to read it as "Yes! Timing DOES factor into your reward!", but you can also understand that it may mean they actually are referring to whatever prize you were aiming for. In all cases, it seems to me that this is pointing more to the side of timing being a large factor. Before we delve deeper into that,... Part 2: The Information. --------------------------------------------------------- As far as I can see, there are specific randomizers that activate, possibly even randomly (I haven't recorded enough or at all on some to definitively). Here are some of the ones I noticed, though one or two may not exist because they could be 'lag' or some type of tech malfunction: --After clicking, the wheel flashes off and on. { I do not know if this is my computer or what, so I need people to submit info on this so I know I'm not alone. } --Wheel will sometimes spin, and then skip one to three slots (possibly more) to randomize better after clicking to stop. { Again, do not know definitively if this is a glitch occuring or not, or if it's visual. } --Wheel spin will go past super-rare/rare/uncommon items faster than commons/uncommons/rares. { This is the most reliant and very possible scenario, I am almost 100% sure it happens. } --As the wheel is spinning before you click to stop, you can sit there and watch it slow down and speed up over time. --As the wheel is spinning before you click to stop, you can see it sometimes entirely skip over items. --Every 6/8/10/11/13 rotations, the wheel flashes (and I believe resets) to a random reward point or something like that. Need to keep watching to find out what it does exactly, may be more rotations than those available for a "reset" or flash. --The wheel possibly skips to the left 1-3 item slots every rotation. Exact amount and how often if not 100% chance of happening per spin are unknown at this time. --I have consistently tried aiming perfectly for the best item on my wheel, and would end up with the worst reward possible. 8 times+ today, let alone total, have I done this. I will assume for now that I am making progress, and it's possible that I am either accidentally causing myself to get bad rewards, or if you try to get a good reward and are close, you will get a bad one instead. I also tried to change my timing a few times and ended up with the best uncommon rather than the worst reward possible. I will also state that I timed it 7 times in a row to hit item slot 10. --Free-Play spins seem to rotate faster than Members spins. This would affect the outcome by making it much more difficult to hit super-rare, rare, and uncommon item slots if the wheel does indeed spin faster over them than more common item slots. This could just be visual to cause timing on Free-Play spins to be harder than Members. I will update more as I see them or they are submitted enough. ------SIDE NOTES------ 1): If you spin on a Free-Play account and get a Divine spirit shield (as an example), you do NOT have to immediately subscribe to claim it, and shouldn't discard the item if you plan on eventually claiming it. As far as I know, you may let a reward sit there and cannot spin again until it is discarded or claimed. So keep trying spins on your newbies or pures or whatever account, maybe you'll be enticed to pay for membership one day :). 2): Something I completely overlooked but just saw based on screenshots. Item locations of rarity can change. If you look at my example of item slots #1-13 picture, item slot #3 is a rare item, but on my "Example of a good submission" post, you can clearly see a rare slot/Lucky Zamorak Godsword as item slot #2. Part 3: Submitting information and data. --------------------------------------------------------- Alright, here's the important stuff. I would like everyone and anyone to follow these guidelines and post some information regarding each spin, so we can define how likely it is to hit certain items, and to help with timing better. There are always 13 slots for items, here is the layout of the items: (#1-13, left to right in numerical order for the form) Do NOT hesitate to post bad spins, ALL DATA IS HELPFUL. Here's the submission form FOR EACH SPIN: I know this is going to be difficult to be accurate on specifics of how your spins went, but just try to be precise as possible. Describe what happened in your spin with: Flashes, jumps, slowing down or spinning over super-rare/rare/uncommon/common slots quickly, skipping over item slots as it was about to stop, etc. State anything else that you saw might have or did happen. Screenshots of rewards and your wheel before you stop the spin is VERY helpful. Not to mention good for bragging :thumbsup: .. http://www.photobucket.com/ is a free-to-use website for uploading pictures (must sign up, can upload multiple pictures at once) in case you need a website. Please crop out everything but the Runescape screen. Use image tags or the image URL on your post. Your data is almost completely null or invalid until it is repeatedly posted, possibly by numerous people in this topic before it's approved or assumed to be possible or true. This is to prevent liars, timewasters, trolling, etc. Part 4: Rewards list. --------------------------------------------------------- List of possible rewards in Alphabetical order: WILL UPDATE THIS LATER ONCE WE GET A LIST GOING. Part 5: Rates for items/item slot #'s. --------------------------------------------------------- WILL UPDATE THIS LATER ON WHEN WE HAVE INFORMATION. -----------------------UPDATES---------------------- There WILL be a tips/tricks part later on, once we see enough consistency in spins to say that X technique will help you land on X item(s). I will edit rewards as they come to me/as I see them. PLEASE post information you found on RSOF regarding possible rewards, or anywhere else, so I can get a reward list up and running faster. Please post typos, corrections, etc, so I can fix the topic ASAP. Please comment on my topic also, saying where it may need improvement and such, or what areas are great. -------------------------------------------------------- So good luck on your spins, try to be accurate and honest as possible when submitting information. Just remember, this is a thread to help you win those super-rare unbuyables and the highest-value rewards (Divine/Elysian/10M gp cash, Huge Lamps, etc). Even bad spin data is helpful!

I told people numerous times, they already scrapped this game for $150M loss back in 2010, and used -some- ideas for RuneScape. It's where the graphics and armor rework came from, and part of Nex battle style.

Boots of lightness, Penance gloves, Spottier cape, Agile armor. There's your skilling armor.

Friggin slowpost.

They should've made TokHaar-Kal a cape with random-sized but not oversized plates of obsidian in the same color scheme, with lava flowing behind it, imo. Would look a hell of a lot better than a bunch of planes plastered together ;P.

I like your blog :P, much more attractive than mine. Keep up the good work :thumbsup: .

Sideways Unipwn, or the 3-quantity item in inv over 3 in image.

Epic Nex drops lmao. And awesome coincidence. As for xp bonus items stacking, I think it's based on the fact that Skoll lasts as exp amount, brawlers are charges. Thus meaning SC Hatchet would not stack with boots, but with brawlers. Try it out, I bet I'm right :).

GL getting it fast :P, mind if I asked what method?

Crystal shield has higher def and absorbs than Granite shield, if you want to spend a little more time on getting better gear. Also ask around for a fury loan, loads better than a Glory. Also don't think reverence will help you much, unless you have super-compromised inventory slots.

I'm not super knowedgeable on IP addresses, but I thought each computer had it's own ID? I thought most, if not all, replicated technology has it's own ID. Ban computer access if possible..? You could take it a step further and do that. And if they could pinpoint RL addresses, they could attempt to subpoena (hoping that's correct) a lot of people, fight them legally..Impractial probably though :\. I just hate botters, rwters, etc.

Keep in mind, this guide was written in '07, and the standards for guides were much lower. Duefully noted. Hoping someone updates this or writes a new guide.

Ha :P. Not a problem at all. Now people don't need to be as scared of that maybe ^-^..

Very helpful info here, thanks guys. Also, red chins suck ass for xp/h (mostly due to bots/more than 1 person at a spot). I got better xp/h at both orange sallies and falconry. If you get one spot to yourself, and place traps well, I think you can get 45-65k xp/h+. But that's about it for red chins. On a side note, if anyone wants to look at page 2 of top hunters, almost every person there is a bot. Don't let those 50-80 combat stats fool you. I hiscored 6 bots on one world and they averaged about 65M hunter exp each. One was even top 40.

Haha, not really x). The sounds differ now I think. Some monsters are included in Area-audio, and others only make sounds with player-interactives. The animation is almost enough for me. I've got some-odd delay or something with the sound sometimes anyway, on top of the animation. I am hoping to dreadnip Jad and claw him to death around that corner :twisted: . Hotkeys I might give a go, because I need some extra speed on him. Gonna be a bit until I get this cape, I think though.

Inspired by Darkwitchery, I decided to take up hoarding (it's one step below Diy). :thumbsup: So here's an entry for a little over 24h into it. Will update monthly, or maybe longer than that. Mostly using it as a way to increase my bank's dirty-looking awesomeness. And yes, I have a boss way of organizing, don't I? :P Here is my stats/Xp/Combat pic. Yep, about 4/5 of my total exp is entirely combat :rolleyes: ... Current goals: -120 Strength in XP -120 Dungeoneering -2100 Total level -All skills 70+ Bank pics: Tab 1 - Mostly for misc items, currency, charms, pouches, scrolls, stuff I only have 1 of (no placeholders). Tab 2 - Teleports, runes and ammo. Stuff I either use or commonly get to collect or sell (had to restart my Addy Jav collection :unsure: ). Tab 3 - Herblore, Farming, Fishing, Woodcut, Con, Crafting, Smithing and Mining resource tab. Tab 4 - Consumables. Potions, and food. Nothing super special, except some remnants from those 6 Jad attempts :mellow: . Tab 5 - Jewelry, clothing, Treasure Trail emote items. Tab 6 - Quest items or items related to quests. Tab 7 - My latest, but not greatest, drop/clue rewards tab. I will NOT sell Dragon Chains, ever. And will keep 2 sets of Dchain armor. Tab 8 and 9 - Combat gear, and tab 9 contains just a few f2p items that are useful if I do lose membership. Overall, it's a bit messy atm. But when I update this April 1st, I'll re-organize it a bit and throw out more stuff for more room. Hope someone's impressed by it for now!..because later it will be wtfamazing :twisted: .

If you do PC with a PC clan, you can get 100+ points an hour, as long as no one leaks to sub-115 f2p's, and you don't act dumb like lure brawlers/leave gates open. I prefer it because you get combat exp too. And Conquest isn't consistent. EDIT: Takes 7-8h for me to get full void with a clan.