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Isn't that an instrumental? Other than the title being related, I fail to see your point. I was always afraid of googling "google" I used to think it had a similiar effect as dividing by 0 The universe dies.

This thread is getting more and more off topic...and the few posts that are worth something are much too simple with no back up explanations or citations. I'm sad at this trend. i counter this person's claim witha response of equal caliber... Nu-uh!

I've been posting a lot more problems than advice recently :/ Sorry guys, I'll help out when I can My circle of friends is tearing at the seems at the moment. Long story short, there was a break up between a good friend of my girlfriend, and some guy from upstate. They were real close and she was all obsessive over him, and that's basically what pushed him away (here's the twist of advice: do not pressure your mate into staying with you or loving you - you will fail and be miserable). I ask advice in that her break up is causing our whole circle of friends to fight over who was right and how we should all resolve the issue. Her life just got more or less shattered, and my girlfriend and another of her friends keep yelling at the other girl (the dunped one) and I really don't think it's helping. All the guys in the group say to just leave her be and she'll heal on her own. I ask the advice of this thread in search of another opinion. Extra details: It was pretty much her fault that he dumped her. She was being very immature/obsessive/clingy and what not, and he just couldnt put up with it. She is under the impression that he'll come back to her, which everyone else knows wont happen. My question is of two things: What can I do for her? and How do all ya'll get over devastating relationship endings?

I thought the exact same theory on my own. except about wikipedia. because it knows everything. but i guess google is a tad more true and links to wikipedia as well as many other data bases. So in a sense, google is god, and wikipedia is jesus. [/blasphemy]

I think I disagree with the other users' posts. While it probably speaks for the majority of cases, it's not always true. The first time I asked my present girlfriend out, she said she didn't know and she didn't want a boyfriend. To me it definitely sounded like she only wanted to be friends. Then a few days later some stuff happened and she realized she did like me. Same here. My relationship had a really odd start too. I asked her at the same time she asked me. It seemed perfect, but a month and a half later we ended up breaking up and I got friend zoned. i fought tooth and nail(with the help of this awesome thread :D ) and got her back as my girlfriend 4 months later. I tried asking her out a multitude of times over the course of thoes 5 months, but her answer was always along the lines of "I don't want a boyfriend." Well, if you know my story (as I'm sure atleast a few of you do) me and my girl have been going out officially for a year now, nearing 13 months. I say this for two points. One to say to rangeor that I agree, there could have been a worse answer. And that there is still hope to get this girl with enough effort (if you truly think it's worth it). And two to expand on Zierro's thought about rejection and it's later effects. You call that flirting? You should be treating everyone like that. Sure you throw off the hint that you think she's special...but you're gonna have to step it up a notch. Being polite to a girl isn't going to get you in her pants (or whatever you want to do with her). She's responding with silence because you're treating her like a human being. It's a step up from you're normal interactions (from what I can assume from your statement) but it's not enough. You really gotta go that extra mile to get her attention. Either that or she's just messing with you, and she's fully aware you like her. Being cheesy often includes being obvious. Girls are like that.

So a personal friend (known him since I could speak) of mine asks me to help him out in his girl troubles. I figured I help enough people here, I could help hiim to. Well, we tried this before...and for a multitutude of reasons, it didn't work out. Not really anyone's fault though. Anywho, he's been chasing after a new girl for awhile. he txts her all the time basically, and they talk in person every now and then, when they get the chance. She's a realy friendly girl though, so personally I just see this as her being her. He wants her to go to this up coming dance thing. He's a junior, she's a freshman. He's not exactly high on the popularitychain, but they get along well enough. He's pertrified of rejection. I've told him to practice on random girls, to just ball up and go for it..but he's practically unteachable unless it's a sure fire solution. He's already asked her to chill with him once (shot down, gradually) and he wants to try again. I'd like to see him get this girl, he has the worst of luck with them, he needs a break. They see each other about every day, even if it's only for a second. I think he just needs to grow some and make a move. Unfortunatly, by now he may be friend zoned (it's been about 2 weeks). Is there anything that anyone thinks I should add to this pile of advice for him? I really want to give this all I got for his sake.

I'm a middle class high school 43% are not virgins I have no clue about the STD stat. 68% admit to being involved with sexual activity (such as the "foreplay" stuff) The fresh man class that just came up has had 4 prgnancies resulting in 2 abortions, one miscarridge and one drop out. The sophmores this year are [bleep]s and man [bleep]. but I dn't think any of them are child bound. The Juniors had dozens of pregnancy scares, but all but one turned out to be a false alarm. That kid had to drop out The Seniors are the most STD laden, but I'm quite sure none were ever preggerz This further supports my previous stand. How do you find out these statistics? Compilation of student surveys, varified by rumor & student physicals. I suppose they're not the most accurate numbers in the world...but I'm surprised they weren't higher.

I'm a middle class high school 43% are not virgins I have no clue about the STD stat. 68% admit to being involved with sexual activity (such as the "foreplay" stuff) The fresh man class that just came up has had 4 prgnancies resulting in 2 abortions, one miscarridge and one drop out. The sophmores this year are [bleep]s and man [bleep]. but I dn't think any of them are child bound. The Juniors had dozens of pregnancy scares, but all but one turned out to be a false alarm. That kid had to drop out The Seniors are the most STD laden, but I'm quite sure none were ever preggerz This further supports my previous stand.

and what sort of world do you live in?

She knew. She's not an idiot, at least from what you've told us she sounds like a decent girl. It's the attention factor. He makes her feel good about herself, so she doesn't mind having him around. Then when he tries to make his move, all of a sudden she'll shrug him off like last years fashion. Brent did that all the time to me, it annoyed the crap out of me. I was like how the hell can you be so blind by seeing that they're trying to flirt with you and be more than just friends. Later he admitted he did it for selfish reasons but never wanted anything else. He's since grown out of it. My girlfriend does that all the time. She even tells me she knows they like her. She likes it. She loves having people like her. Not one of her best personality traits. I've learned to live with it, but every now and then I need to help her 'shrug off' the guys she has chasing after her. The price of dating a good looking girl I suppose. :? Is it common to grow out of that stage though? Cause it'd make my life easier if it did, lol.

[/hide] Read the hidden stuff first. Basically, I decided to call her and ended up texting with her quite a bit. A few days later we ended up hanging out by a lake and talked for about an hour and a half and she made me a... balloon animal... long story though, and I don't feel like telling. Anyways it seems like she might actually be interested in me, and I think I might be interested in her. I mean, she's extremely pretty, she lives only three houses down from me, and she's a nice person. Looks like a winning combination to me. Only problem is I'm not exactly sure when or how to ask her out. The first two times I've asked a girl out I completely screwed up.. I mean, how do you guys do it? Just ask her to a movie? Also I'm worried I'll get friendzoned if I don't ask her out soon enough, but I don't want to ask her out too soon because it just feels weird to me. I've been talking with her for a week and the conversations have already started to die down so I'm getting rather nervous. i was never great at that either. I go for an innocent kind of approach with the question so it would souind something along these lines ideally: me: Hey, you wanna go (date planned) with me sometime? girl: yeah sure, what are we going to do there? me: I was thinking (insert movie, or whatever other plans) girl: sounds fun, when are we going out? me: I was thinking (insert date and time) girl: okay, I'll see you then me: *smiles flirtily* so is this gonna be a date thing or a friend thing girl: (regardless answer) in this way I can not only prove if they're interested in me, but completely avoid the friend zone. or immediatly get shoved in the friend zone. but the plus side is - I'll know.

Your asking for the meaning of life. That's really only an answer that you yourself can come up with. I say enjoy life as much and as long as you can with as few regrets as possible. It's also nice to not put others down along the way to your own happiness.

I have to say, debating this with you is quite fun :). I wish we disagreed more often. You're right, the topic is much to subjective for either of us to really win this argument. And maybe i am overestimating the negativity of the situation. But for the record 1: I believe I am a decent guy, but I doubt I'll ever have fun again unless I'm in a sexually based relationship with someone. And 2: No I don't believe I've ever personally encountered anything in my life where sex was portrayed as something atrocious (ie. child molestration). It's just something I've picked up from observation. And 3: I have no priest. I'm a reformed (bordering conservative) jew. I barely ever speak to my rabbi, and the only thing we ever learned in hebrew school (the equivilent of sunday school) was how to read the language, as well as certain ceremonial purposes. I also took a hebrew school class about famous jews/art/...etc. my point is, religion has nothing to do with my argument against sex as religion's role in my life never even addresssed sex. More than anything my actions are to make my ancestors proud that I bare their name. That's where I get most of my reasoning/morals. That concept has religious ties to it, but they are so loose, they're barely connected.

It's only really useful on black construction paper. And making other colors appear lighter/brighter/shinier. Other than that, it's rather useless. [/thread]

Awkward dates suck. Good luck with the friend that likes you though. Do you like her, as well? If your friend starts acting like a jerk, just change the topic or distract him. Help him out, its the best part about doubling with your friend. as for the the whole asking out argument. My relationship(s) all started over the internet. Just cause we were both too chicken to say stuff to each other's face's at first. We got over it though. Me and my girl are still together after over a year. It's been going pretty well. I'm going to side with, "it doesn't matter how you get together, it's just important that you do".

Paintball is damn good fun. but expensive. You seem to be into the artsy stuff (music + photography = artsy), but graphic designing has already been suggested... ever try drawing? or... painting? hell, even poetry. Those are just artsy examples, there's plenty of otehr stuff you could do

The fact that people breathe is one of the greatest causes of violence known to man; without breath there is no violence. Does that not make breathing the greatest evil then? Should we not all cut each other's trachea's to end violence in this world? Just because something bad can be produced from something else doesn't mean that that something else is inherently evil. No one's perfect, and bar mathematics neither is anything. You've got to weigh the rewards vs. the consequences- is what we gain from it worth having it, or is it too much of a burden on society to have it? So, the question is (to you, and anyone) does sex cause enough bad things that we should only use it to make babies? Or why not just skip the sex and transfer the semen indirectly, if it's really that evil?; if it is a burden on society, why have it? I'd like some reasons why anyone who answers this chose their answer, including both the good and the bad and why one outweighs the other. Let's get a little more specific than "it can cause evil/violence, etc.", if the point I made above makes any sense. Maybe cite something, like the average number of rape cases in cities, or how sex chemically brings a couple together. "Moral confusion"? You make it sound like it can't be possible he's making a point. I think his point is quite valid- sex is nowhere near as bad as violence. I mean, one is based on pleasure and unity, and the other is based on nothing but pain. Is there really a moral comparison...? Or is it simply a religious one? If it is a religious one you're citing, you do know that the Catholic Church sees sex as a beautiful thing that brings a couple together on the physical level and beyond, right? According to the Church, sex serves the two purposes of procreation and unity. The Church sees it as an important and valuable part of life, of human relationships. Are you honestly citing them when you're trying to say that sex is evil? You've got more fight in you then I thought :) Anyway, your whole first point about breathing, although I know was a quick example, allow me to disprove the theory. If we all stopped breathing, yes there'd be no violence. On the other hand there'd be no life. And that's jsut as bad, for the point of living is to keep on living (as far as I can tell). You say that people should go around cutting other people's throats to end violence, but doesn't that in itself promote violence? I realize that you say that you can't blame the higher cause of an evil for making it evil. I see your point, and have previosly addressed this issue on an earlier post. Sex doesn't cause all violence. Maybe not even most, but a significant amount of negative emotions revolve around sex including things such as greed, jealousy, and gluttony. Sex as you said can lead to violence. I'd say 9/10 times it does. Especially in the long run. I also beloeve I ackknoledged the 'good' sides of sex from the relationship stand point. I also stated that as good as they are, they are generally outweighed by the 'bad' sides of sex. Replacing sex with an artificial substitute would be taking the humanity right out of reproduction. It seems almost inhuman for a human to be artificially ensemenated as a first choice. (you could argue this by saying how some people already do that, but I'd rather not go down that topic as it would drift from my main point just a tad too much, but if you must, you must) As for the moral remark I made, that may have been a slip of judgment. My argument that sex is overall not a good thing has almost nothing to do with religion. I was merely pointing out that most folk who have a very religious upbringing have very set-in-stone morals. Those who have loose morals, so I've noticed, have looser ties to religion. But that's just a conjecture from personal observation. I was curious of his religious background to prove my theory in correct or not. After all, the more data you have, the more accurate you can be. As for citings of rapes and all that jazz...I'm not too interested in stats like that. I know plenty of people get raped. And I know it would help the case I'm defending. But, in brief I'm still convinced that sex is (pardon the poor phrasing) not good. We could argue this out for a while :lol:

Violence is a natural insticnt (not to say sex isn't). violence is completely unavoidable and there is no escaping it. Violoence will find you. You have to find sex; in short. Another point is that sex causes violence, therefore it is a greater evil. I'm guessing religion wasn't a very large part of your childhood (assuming from your moral confusion).

Mario does the weekly shopping. Mario's extreme ironing challenge. Not what I'm looking forward to. But basically Mario is a classic, and he therefore is untouchable. Even if he were the main character in the worst game ever, it would be over looked (similiar to Zelda: the wand of gamelon). Don't say platformers are dying. They are just as alive as ever. Even if specific platform games are under selling, this I bleive is due to the fact that damn near every game has platforming aspects in it now (save RPGs, FPS's...and even a few of those apply anyway). Think about it. Prince of Persia? A glorified platformer God of War? A very pretty platformer Assasins Creed? Had a lot of platforming didn't it? Sure it can't stand in it's own genre any more, but it is certainly just as alive today as it was in the days of Sonic's prime.

*jumps on thread band wagon* Firstly this eems like it would be more appropriate in the relationship thread, but anyway. Bottom line is you can't control what she does, it's her choice in the end. Since she's your ex, the only influence you have over her is adverse to what you want. If I were you, I'd tell her it bugged the hell outta ya. But in all honesty it wouldn't help anything. Maybe she's trying to help you get over her. :shrug:. Either way, you might as well just ignore it all.

rofl. Okay, I have a really strict school. like constant bomb scares and lock downs strict. but last year a group of kids decided to have a in-school water gun fight. safe zones were class rooms and their respective houses. Basically the whole town was the bounderies. This went on for a few days but one of them got suspended for carrying a water pistol in his belt and the game ended. Fun stuff.

An understandable statement. But it's been done. And it lead to gangs and more violence and underground illegal activites than you could imagine. It's a nice thought, but it can't be done. (plus there's the whole argument that alcohol is responsible for civilization, but I would pay no mind to that side of it)

There are seriously a billion answers to this question. The thing about girls, you will never understand them. You can try, but you'll never succeed. You can come close, but as soon as you think you're right...they surprise you and change everything. don't stoop to their level in this endless game of miserable human behavior. Believe it or not: Girls are human, and every one of them is different. Saying you will never understand them is the most ridiculous thing to say. It's like saying if you have one friend in the world that you know incredibly well. You know everything about him, what he would do in any situation, and so on. Then when some random person does something a little different than him, you say you will never understand people. I could say the same thing about guys, some might be incredibly faithful, and some might cheat, some might be clingy and some might be distant, and so on. I could say then, that I will never understand guys, because different people do things differently. Sorry if I've phrased some things badly, I'm exhausted right now. As for speedofsound, what in circumstances did you make out with them? If it was at a party, then it might have been peer pressure, or them just getting caught up in the excitement of the party. I don't know, again, everyone is different. If it was on new years eve, and you just like kissed them at midnight (Not exactly making out, but whatever) sometimes that's a purely platonic thing. I think you quoted me a bit literally. Believe me I understand that every human is completely different from the next. All girls will be different. That's why I said you will never understand them (as a whole). Another flaw is that you said you can understand your friend. No matter what gender...yes it's very possible to completely understand your friend. But I think that's mostly because your judgement is not clouded by infatuation. I could go on, but I don't think I would really be helping any body in doing so. This thread is supposed to be about relationship help, not understanding general girl psyche.

Spoken like a true Philidelphian. Welcome, brother :lol:.

The only other animals that can actually enjoy sex are dolphins. Every other animal does it to breed. LOL!? Where'd you find that out? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphins#R ... _sexuality Err...Not really. bonobo monkeys do it everyday I'm kinda siding with this guy too, but we can never really know imo since we can't really ask animals :P http://www.helium.com/items/104268-spec ... r-pleasure On topic, I think that people are way too offended by nudity over here in the West. I don't mean walking around naked, but like nudity on tv or whatever. I heard people are much more lax and cool with it in European countries You don't have to ask the animals. There's ways of detecting pleasure through brain monitoring. Certain animals have different priorities whether or not pleasure is a high one for them is the question. i didn't say you couldn't be happy with out sex. My point was once you do have sex...nothing will make you feel the same again.