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But in reality he's not risking anything, because he can always get back to it and pick up the items.

Firstly, if you're pieting I presume you have the correct equipment. Full Slayer helm Proselyte Body Veracs skirt Fury Soul wars cape d boots suitable ring barrows gloves Not much of this can be substituted ( are a few exceptions, but not many). Your stats are fine to be slaying with, don't worry about training them up first, no-one is ever going to say that 80's are to olow to slay with. Do Not expect to no skill Jad. Either do it properly, or don't do it at all. You will NOT make it.

Oh my god! Popped into Off-topic (which is something I never do) and saw this post. You probably don't remember me, but we used to hang out on RS ageeeeeeeees ago. You serious about having retired? that sucks man...

Everyone has a right to make up their own minds, but video evidence always helps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU12KW-XyZE&has_verified=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo

If, as you say, you like to afk then you can instantly forget about barb fishing. It's only better xp if you're paying attention. Now if you really want profit from an afkable source, then cavefish isn't an awful idea (though there are better ones). Personally, I'd do shilo fly fishing, as it's semi-afkable and better xp then cavefish. I'd make my money elsewhere.

Pro bump is not pro.

Unfortunately, the most useful thing you can do with it is sell it and get back all the equipment you used to have with the following exceptions: No ROW (it's useless) No combat bracelet (do RFD) AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PUT BACK THE MONEY THAT YOU TOOK FROM MTK!!!

*Ahem* To quote the powers that be:

Stats would be nice to suggest the most relavent familiar to suit the rest of your levels.

Yeah, sorry, I obviously haven't dungeoneered as much as you have (got my last 8 levels through tears lol). I was just putting forward a very basic system. Maybe it would be possible to have a "resources used by other people" counter (though I suspect this would be very complicated). Or total value dropped that was picked up by other users.

[ The problem comes from the fact that your innitial equations differ from Jagex's wording in the knowledge base (in face, I can't find a source for your info anywhere :S) Exact quoted wording for each item Morphic tool: You will earn double experience for using it Brawling glove:quadrupling the amount you would normally receive. Penance horn: you will automatically receive double the amount of XP Now, looking at brawling gloves, the use of the word "normally" makes it very clear. Normally means without other bonuses such as sc items. However, the other 2 items simply double the xp. So, if the brawling multiplication is applied first (4x) then the penance horn doubles xp (8x) then the morphic tool doubles again (16x) you're looking at a massive difference from the standard +300% xp you talk about (although admittedly you weren't including brawlers). Of course, this does not take into account the fact that the knowledge base is FULL of mistakes.

I think they could very easily have a method of determining how effective you are as a team member: Ie. base it off xp earnt while in the dungeon. If you're predominately gaining xp that isn't combat, you should also be making trades with other dungeoneers. By fiddling around with this principle, you could (in most cases) work out if someone was just leeching and therefore impose a punishment on them.

In response, Yes you can certainly get most of your quest items back (though off the top of my head, I can only think of 3 that I'd want to - Salve (e), Accumulator, SW cape... maybe I'm not thinking about this properly). I do remember someone raging ages ago about not being able to get a bone shard key back (or something like that) but you only needed it to enter a very out of the way cave with no real benefit for going there... Welcome back to members!

Personally, I keep mine as chaos. I never ever cook. My level is high enough for all quests and acheivement diaries (I think) and it's cheaper to buy in ready cooked food so it's just a skill I don't train and can't see myself training in the near future. The only reason why I would is to be able to use swallow whole scrolls on sharks but that's a very minor aspect. Whenever I smith I use gold gaunts as I find that method to be particularly relaxing and enjoyable (I don't superheat in between) but I rarely ever smith and when I do, it tends to be in big chunks so I can get it out of the way all at once. Therefore my only other option is chaos. I find this useful in regular day-to-day activities, like yesterday I have a big irons task and bloods and deaths weren't buying (even at max) so I just bolted my way through it. Essentially though, it boils down to which you can see yourself using the most.

Agreed, I don't like the start where it looks like you're charging up dbz style or soemthing. I would preferr the old hang time over the new shininess. EDIT: That aside, it's still one of the bad assest emotes. Am I the only one who thinks it looks as if someone's ramming a pole up your rectum and twirling you round?

It's worth noting that the higher your farming level is, the easier you will find it to damage Tanglefoot, if you want to keep your combat low, you could just train that and not combat stats. also, what's with ending every number in "x"? why not just tell use the real values?

Try numbering it as "4". It would fit the pattern best.

Raise the tower in the middle again, the button upstairs should be powered after that. to raise it i just need to get the 3 sq big block to the highest machine again? Yep. Then rage when you realise that you need 2 bars to make a body body. I'm starting to think that my finding of a seller for shields and helms was very lucky.

Should be Help & Advice imo... I think the main problem here is that anyone who has already completed it, won't want to reset and start from the beginning for this map, you're going to have to find someone who hasn't even started it. Also, there is no "main" lever, it follows the same rules as all the other ones.

Or you can buy them from other players, I just got my shield and help for about 50k from someone I saw hanging aroung the G.E.

Finally completed this quest! So glad that I didn't use a guide, that would have made it really boring and would have resulted in no sense of acheivement that I now feel. Actually enjoyed it, it has left me feeling satisfied, not frustrated. And it definately leaves things open for more in the series.

Nice gif, sucks that you didn't get loot though... EDIT: lol quoted wrong one, but they're both pretty great. UNSPAM: I <3 clues =)

Not sure if this method still works, but if you find someone else who wants to train using the same method, you can splash each other in the Duel arena. I think wearing full d'hide is best for this.

Our stats are pretty similar (I have slightly higher range, you have higher def and hp). So I'm guessing you can do it pretty much as easily as I did. Took me 2 tries, only reason I didn't do it in 1 was I didn't realise he could range me when on beserker mode. I didn't die, he just healed, so I home ported out of there. Setup I used: Helm of neit Fury Accumulator Rune c'bow black d'hide top black d'hide legs Unholy book Snakeskin boots Archer ring Barrows gloves Use rudy bolts all the time except when you're frozen and he's charging for his all your lifepoints but 1 shot. Switch to diamond for this. This is so he doesn't get you on low hp, you ruby spec and suicide for the ko. Invent was: Tortoise full of brews 2 pray pots 10 regular restores (supers are a MASSIVE WASTE for this fight) kyatt pouch and about 40 scrolls Rest brews. when Fight starts, run straight behind a pillar. He will follow you and shout "face me". Step 1 step out of pillar and range him while he mages you. Brew when you need to, after 2/3 brew sips, take a restore sip. Pray eagle eye the whole fight. You can ignore the bombs as they won't be under you. When he does his clone attack, go back behind pillar and brew/restore to good stats. You have a while here before the clones disappear and you have to fight him again. You can either try to fight him, or wiat til they disappear, either is a good method. When he's doing he 750 attack, again, hide behind the pillar and get your stats up. Once he's fired (and missed) go back out and fight him. during the frozen attack, switch to diamond bolts, and eat til your lifepoints are higher than your max. Don't bother restoring. After the hit, run back behind a pillar and get your levels up again. Once your tort is empty, wait til you have a free second and dismiss and summon your kyatt. Also, change from "take bob" as your quick select to "use spec". Once he goes beserk, put on pray mellee. For me, he was hitting so much that all I could do was spam brew and the kyatt spec button. I definately did not have time to brew, restore, attack and use familiar. good luck!

IIRC they updated the chime to work automatically anyway, without having to buy this skill (which was rather silly as both updates came out at similar times) Also, it's worth noting that if you want to range/mage anything that requires a finishing blow (eg gargs) you will kill them without having to stand next to them (I think, someone said this ages ago, but it may have been changed since).