magzar

both sentences deliver the same meaning. 2+2=4 1+3=4 they are different ways of getting there. either way, the end result is the same. No it's not actually, your post promotes intolerance and hate. If you disagree with homosexuality then that's fine, but it doesn't give you the right to insult people. If you're shallow enough to hate a person based simply upon their sexuality then you're a disgusting and worthless human being who's opinion has no value. Jard, your last post is edging towards the realm which will get this thread deleted, I suggest you delete the sections in your hide tags. Also you haven't considered pansexuality. These are people who love regardless of a person's gender. I honestly believe that heterosexuality, though the natural order of things, is more of a social concept than anything else. society says that heterosexuality is what's normal, however the simple act of reproduction doesn't include love, and it's entirely possible to love someone else without there even being a sexual aspect to the relationship. the consequences of sentience free us as a species from the bindings of the natural order in favor of complex thoughts and emotions. I believe this is the source of true homo/bi/pansexuality, not a sexual imperative.

It doesn't offend me, I would simply suggest at least putting the word in italics as is usually done when a word from another language, or a made up word is used in writing. The fact that it's not a word in common usage in the english language is the only problem i have with it as you don't show anything that would reveal that, which leads to people not knowing it's not a real word and attempting to use it. I feel it contributes to the "dumbing down" that many modernized countries are experiencing these days due to modern advances and sheer laziness. That being said, putting the word in italics, should be sufficient to show that the word is, if not invented, then at least out of place as far as language goes.

Jard, please don't cite Wikipedia, I can go on there right now and make an entry on the subject of Jard_Y_Dooku, and make it say that you're a 375 pound woman from haiti who tried to float to freedom on a raft, ended up in the bermuda triangle, and was transformed into a three-headed omnipotent goat. Likewise anyone can make an entry on their beliefs without any actual fact. Many of those biological differences you cited are caused by lifestyle, and are not genetic. There have been no concrete scientific findings proving that there are any biological or physiological reasons for a man or woman to be gay. That's why it's still debated. If what you were saying was true, then there would be no debate, and there would likely be medication available to change the brain chemistry which makes people gay. When I said do research, I didn't mean wikipedia.

I fully realize that it is a derogatory term used to refer to people who are homosexual. With that in mind a term like that has no place in these forums, and personally i believe the user in question should be banned on general principals. Excuse me for calling a douche on being a douche.

that's called stereotyping not all people who are gay are flamboyant, in fact I bet you have someone close to you who is gay, and you don't even know it. People like you are the reason there is so much hate in the world. Btw homo is the latin root meaning same, so every time you say homo you're just looking like more and more of an idiot.

Some people are severely homophobic. Others consider homosexuality a sin. To some a same sex partnership is utterly disgusting. It's a highly controversial topic that has no place in a video game directed at young teens. They simply do not have the maturity to handle it. Now if this game were geared much more towards college aged people, I could see not censoring it and allowing it to be in the game, maybe. Still I don't think sexuality has any place in runescape. As far as what you said about a hormonal imbalance, That's a complete fallacy. There is no evidence to support any genetic or physiological factors that determine one's sexuality. This is where the nature vs. nurture debate comes in. A person will love who they love, and the simple fact that you believe homosexuality is a disorder point to you not being mature enough to handle this debate. Honestly Jard, no offense, but I thought you had learned to research things before you say them when we were talking about nutrition.

I don't think adding in homosexuality in the game would be a wise idea. It would offend some people, and considering the young player base, many parents may find the subject to be a bit too mature and deny their children access. I have nothing against gay people and fully support their right to choose their partners, I just don't believe the issue has any place in the gaming industry. If they want to play a game geared towards including homosexuality there are always games like second life. As far as religion, I'm personally agnostic as I don't believe in God, but I can't account for how the universe came into existence. I also don't see how religion matters in this as religion is no excuse for intolerance. Baal, skirts have been worn by men throughout history. They allow more freedom and range of movement than pants, and were favored by many armies, the romans, greeks, and scottish are just a few. It's only in modern times that they have become a feminine article.

Haha, thanks Magzar, but we already knew this - but when did we say the rules of the English language applied to us? Hmmm.... :D Actually, it's just that deceptor sounds a whole lot more mischievous and we (mainly Earthpoet) liked the way it sounded in the title. In that case, you should either change the title to make it all one language, or make it obvious that you're switching to another. Misuse of a word in that way without making it obvious that it was intentional makes it seem unprofessional and may damage your image in the eyes of some people. (Even simply putting deceptor in italics would make it more obvious that the word is not a part of standard english)

Ok just a few points. 1. I find it unlikely that stealing creation is a Zarosian plan as no followers of other Gods seem to care about it. 2. I don't believe Zaros currently has any influence in Geilinor. Instead I think his loyal mahjarrat carry out his will, the fact that the mahjarrat gave their loyalty to other gods after his fall makes it unlikely that he can interact with them directly. I believe that he may have foreseen, or even planned his own fall so that when the time was right he could rise again unsuspected and take the other gods by surprise. 3. I don't believe we have sufficient information to determine that Zaros is actually evil. We know Zamorak is, but who's to say he took the exact role that Zaros had previously played. The Mahjarrat seem less evil, and more like they all have a superiority complex. If they were simply evil it seems likely they would have all sided with Zamorak. Really we don't have any concrete evidence of what Zaros was all about other than his title the empty lord. This could simply suggest he was devoid of any emotion. 4. Throughout history(especially the dark ages) some orders of monks would ritualistically blind themselves as a sign of devotion to god, they would then bind their eyes with cloth, much as the mystic at stealing creation. 5. I can't wait for the resurrection! I want facts! (I also want to rise up as a champion of guthix and take him out if necessary) (btw Zaros was not subject to the banishment that the other gods faced at the time of the god wars, he was kinda dead.)

just so you know, deceptor isn't a word. at least not in english, it's latin for crook. The world you're looking for in english is deciever.

Lulz, there's no free version of WoW and that has plenty of members. (Free trials DO NOT COUNT)

or someone knows the answer to your security questions, or you keep picking the same password, or a number of other possibilities

it's the beginning of a new quest line. It was an awesome quest, you can't expect high difficulty from an opener.

That would be interesting, but unlikely this theory is true, as the CE refers that we are not one of them, so we cannot be sacrificed. But being the True Protector or Guardian of the Stone of Jas is still a possibility. that does bring up the question, who the hell is our character? I'd like to see a quest allowing us to have a back-story. It could let us choose where we're from and such things and then fill in the blanks with questions for us to answer so that the character would be tailored to our personality. Another interesting though. What if Guthix is Zaros? If you've played the shivering Isles Expansion to Oblivion you'll get the idea here. It's exactly like sheogorath and jyggalag. Guthix is balance right? so The opposite of balance is chaos. Balance and chaos inhabiting the same body is the epitomy of balance. So everyone thought guthix was sleeping right? perhaps during that time he was actually Zaros, and when Zamorak impaled him he once again became guthix and has been such since, however the staff and stone have the power to change him back into Zaros. That would be wicked.

I'm more inclined to think the second is true. If one of their own was to be sacrificed, there would be no need to go back to Frenkensake (sp?). Because of the orbiting bodies thing, I'm inclined to think that Gravity plays a large role in the ritual. Prehaps the proximity of the planets to each other forces them AWAY from each other (yes, thats what happens), and creates a tear in reality, which allows the Mahjarrat to be sacrificed. It's not fact, but I would call it an educated guess. (Probably will never need to know this, but it's interesting none the less.) [hide=Easier version]If you watch NBC's "Heores" it would be similar to the effect of an Eclipse where the protagonists lose/gain abilities.[/hide] I doubt it has anything to do with gravity. In cultures throughout history, a syzygy was thought to have magical atributes. I believe that it's more likely that the time of the syzygy will signal a magical peak, or trough allowing the ritual to take place. The suggestion by azzanadra that others will join the from other planes also suggests that the mahjarrat may have been on geilinor long before other races as their ritual is tied to that plane.

it's fine to speculate, but it should still be removed from the OP as it is not fact, but instead is speculation. We all know how the failure to distinguish between the two leads to absolute idiocy from some of our less educated players. For the record though, i still don't believe that any of those is likely to be sliske. I think sliske is likely to be someone we least expect, possible even the wise old man? Whatever he did in swan song is certainly a lot more powerful magic that any of us can use, and that would be the ultimate deception. It may be possible that we're both right, and that sliske was indeed the mahjarrat in charge of the barrows, and that now he has taken the form of a prominent NPC. I think i like that possibility best to be honest. I highly, highly doubt that if he was as powerful as Azzanadra seems to infer that he would have such a small role as a sack of bones or a serpent like guy near draynor. The thing bout delvers makes me wonder though, because the delvers must be the dwarves. Perhaps the Red axe has something to do with sliske?

[hide=] You are crazy. It is almsot definite Sliske cursed the abrrows brothers. As he is referenced as Sliske the Serpent Tongue And in the lore of the barrows brother the mysterious person who gave them their armour and now controls them spoke with a hiss sound frequently interjected into his speech. This indicates the person who cursed the barrows brothers was indeed serpent tongued (or had one hell of a lisp, but thats too comedic for the tone of the lore) Cross reference this with how highly Azzandra seems to regard Sliske suggest Sliske would be a one of a kind and not one of many Serpent Tongue people. Equally factor in the fact barrows is still among the most widely used member armours meaning we see it everyday. And the evidence highly points to Sliske being connected to the barrows. There really isn't any evidence that points to sliske being the only mahjarrat who speaks with a bit of a hiss. It could be that all mahjarrat have that tone to their voices. A person who is thought to be serpent tongued is usually regarded as a liar and a deceiver, not someone with a hissing sound in their voice. That sliske may be a deceiver points further towards my hypothesis of sliske being a well known npc in disguise. In addition, the mahjarrat who cursed the brothers seems to be entirely inactive now. The postbag stated sliske as being active in the smallest aspects. I don't believe that people running around in armor looted from the brothers counts as being active. If the armor were to be proof the sliske would more likely give it away freely, or at least actively instruct you on how to obtain it [/hide] While you theory of serpent tongue = liar may be true It is widely accepted the hissing stranger who "delved the shadows" in the barrows brother story is Sliske the Serpent Tongue who likes to delve the shadows, as this is logical assumption. Equally the stranger gave them the armour whihc had abnormal powers and allowed them to slay easily. This would suggest some dark magical enchantment such as a mahajaratt could muster. We known not all mahajaratt speak with a hiss as we have spoken to akthankos, enkhara, lucien, azzandra, jahllan, khazard and possibly hazeel Also the is always the hissing sack of bones the rag and bone man carries, this is believe to possible be Sliske, as mahjaratt cannot die but clearly become skeletal and weaker over time. It is a logical step that a several weakened Sliske has become just bones and is having the rag and bone man build him a new better body for the ritual, hence the bones. Equally the fact he is buried in a sack fit as Sliske likes to delve the shadows. Also the proximity to the Barrows indicates it to be the stranger from that story. It is not 100% solid fact here, but as far as the info we have goes the logical conclusion atm is Sliske = the barrows stranger = the bones the rag and bone man has I'll be the first to admit the the figure from the barrows lore must be a mahjarrat, however sliske just doesn't fit the bill. That sliske would delve the shadows, where even the delvers don't dare suggests a closer relation to the dwarves, as the dwarves are the delvers. We very very frequently delve into the barrows, it's not even a difficult task for higher level players. Azzanadra says that sliske does not hide, which gives further credence to my argument, and completely overrules the notion that sliske may be in the rag and bone man's sack. Sliske would be a prominent figure, not a sack full of bones, and that it says sliske's power is visible every day in the smallest of things lends more weight as the rag and bone man really has no influence, neither does the mahjarrat from the barrows. Saying That mahjarrats power is evident every day in the smallest things makes no sense, as the barrows only provides armor which is used in combat. The barrows affects no other aspect of the game. also, how can we know all mahjarrat don't have a snakelike tone, in case you've forgotten, there are no audible voices in runescape, and jagex doesn't necessarily always include inflection of speech in text. edit: btw All mahjarrat can shapeshift.

You are crazy. It is almsot definite Sliske cursed the abrrows brothers. As he is referenced as Sliske the Serpent Tongue And in the lore of the barrows brother the mysterious person who gave them their armour and now controls them spoke with a hiss sound frequently interjected into his speech. This indicates the person who cursed the barrows brothers was indeed serpent tongued (or had one hell of a lisp, but thats too comedic for the tone of the lore) Cross reference this with how highly Azzandra seems to regard Sliske suggest Sliske would be a one of a kind and not one of many Serpent Tongue people. Equally factor in the fact barrows is still among the most widely used member armours meaning we see it everyday. And the evidence highly points to Sliske being connected to the barrows. There really isn't any evidence that points to sliske being the only mahjarrat who speaks with a bit of a hiss. It could be that all mahjarrat have that tone to their voices. A person who is thought to be serpent tongued is usually regarded as a liar and a deceiver, not someone with a hissing sound in their voice. That sliske may be a deceiver points further towards my hypothesis of sliske being a well known npc in disguise. In addition, the mahjarrat who cursed the brothers seems to be entirely inactive now. The postbag stated sliske as being active in the smallest aspects. I don't believe that people running around in armor looted from the brothers counts as being active. If the armor were to be proof the sliske would more likely give it away freely, or at least actively instruct you on how to obtain it

That's unnecessarily inflammatory. As you've demonstrated, MyWep is wrong, but that's not the same thing as lying. He's not trying to deceive anyone. He is deceiving himself actually.

OP: I have no idea where you got that sliske is the mahjarrat in charge of the brothers, but remove that from your post. It's entirely unsubstantiated. Whe have no idea who sliske is, or who the mahjarrat who cursed the brothers might be.(if indeed it was a mahjarrat as many of us believe.) Either way saying that sliske was that mahjarrat is counter intuitive when you read the postbag, because it says sliske is very active and visible every day in the smallest aspects.

Also the Chaos Elementals hints for Tale of the Muspah So of those who we have not met / have yet to meet we know that: - Ralvash was the last to be sacrificed for the ritual and before him were Mizzarch and Lamistard. - Kharshai may still be alive or imprisoned somewhere - Sliske is still active it sounds like sliske is a well known npc, MOM maybe? anyway, has anyone gone to try to talk to the one mahjarrat who we know where is after this quest?(general khazard) I don't think he leaves after finishing the shadow sword miniquest does he?

there's also the info stating the wilderness was once a paradise. Is it possible Zaros and the mahjarrat weren't evil but instead a race like the greeks under Alexander who sought to conquer all and control it for the good of the people, as well as their own desire for power. Many great leaders have been though tyrants in their time for their desire to conquer. The Romans were widely detested, even though they brought peace, order, and innovation to a huge chunk of the world.

He may be seeking to free himself from the ritual entirely by way of attaining a psuedo godhood through use of the artifacts, or just looking for an edge in the fight. It's obvious that even weakened the mahjarrat are extremely powerful, if they sided against a single one they could probably take him even with the staff btw there's nothing to support zamorak ever using the stone, where the hell are you guys getting that from?

Slow respawn rate I heard. In that case, it is VERY VERY VERY slow. :P The first time I entered the cave, I tried mining one of the rocks to see what it contained. This was about 10 minutes after the system update. That same rock hasnt respawned yet. :lol: Im going for one time only or once a day rocks. for low levels several free sapphires once a day still isn't horrible as far as free cash goes. They're about 600 a pop aren't they?

A canoe doesn't have a sail, therefore you don't sail a canoe, you row it. So unless you think rowing is coming instead of sailing then stfu with the sailing [cabbage] already. Edit: lulz @ sailing cabbage. Brassica Prime on the high seas. YARRRRRR!