Laura

Chip size isn't even the issue right now. If you're arguing that multitasking should have been enabled on the first place, you're taking about RAM. The ARM 11 @ 412 MHz is plenty enough to run the process. The 2G and 3G aren't crippled in that sense because they are better today than they were two to three years ago. That's truly more than you can say about most phones out there. Are they supposed to travel back in time and upgrade the RAM? 4.0 is capable on the 2G, as is multitasking. However, neither (or at least the latter) actually function properly. I'm not sure if you've ever owned either an iPhone 2G/3G and have compared those devices with the 3GS, but the difference is phenominal. As I've said earlier, I've enabled multitasking on my 3G and while it works great for Apple's stock apps, it brings nothing but crashing when used with Pandora and other App store apps. And that is exactly why multitasking is not supported - it cheapens the experience on the phone and totally takes away from the whole point. The 2G and 3G (and every other iDevice) runs Mail, SMS, Phone, and iPod in the background (ie, extremely limited multitasking). The only thing the multitasking would do for these phones is become a switcher - the exact same thing you can do with the homescreen. And which [phone] company might that be?

I didn't deal with your thread last year, but yes, the boards (and the rules) have recently changed to reflect a more mature audience. If you would like any clarification you can shoot me a PM. ;)

How much did it cost :o I want one so bad.... Even though I wish it had a physical keyboard. Bought straight from Apple for $200 (16GB model). When you buy it off Apple is it unlocked? I know I recently read an article saying that Apple will unlock all their factory sold phones in Canada so we get to move around choosing which providers to use, but I don't know about the US. Not in the US. And the only other carrier you can use the iPhone with is T-Mobile and even then you can't use 3G.

How much did it cost :o I want one so bad.... Even though I wish it had a physical keyboard. Bought straight from Apple for $200 (16GB model).

Not really. They are two/three year old devices with insufficient hardware to support the more intensive processes. Everything else is enabled. That's the problem. iPhone hardware depreciates way faster than desktop PC hardware, which normally goes from 'completely new' to 'completely insufficient' in six to seven years, following Moore's Law, should the hardware live that long. I appreciate that we're not talking about the 2G being completely insufficient, but it's no longer receiving full OS updates, which is normally something that's 4 or 5 years down the line, not 2 or 3. Apple are intentionally playing the system to get you to buy a new iPhone when you shouldn't need one. You comparing two dissimilar things; you're comparing a nuclear arsenal to convectional ovens. You shouldn't be saying the iPhone hardware depreciates faster, but rather phones as a whole. The 2G iPhone isn't any worse than it was three years ago (actually, it's better, given all the OS upgrades!), but it's not up to standard on running twenty applications simultaneously. Apple actually has a very high standard as far as supporting OSs are concerned. Buy a Samsung/RIM/etc phone and you're lucky to even get an OS upgrade past the date of purchase. Google is pretty good about it too, but you would be hard pressed to go a year without having your phone's OS support being dropped. It's been three years, they can't keep up support forever. 3.1.3 is a great OS to be on. I don't even know if it's worth updating the OS, I can do all the 4.0 stuff jailbroken on 3.1.2. And I don't know if a reliable jailbreak is out for iPod Touch 2G. Can anyone tell me about that Game Center feature (whatever it's called)? That might be worth upgrading for. It depends on what device you're on. If you're happy with 3.1.2 then stick with that for now, at least until things pan out. However, the only viable reason I see to stay on 3.1.2 for any great length of time is to keep your unlock (but you don't have a phone...so...). Just my opinion at least. Your device can be jailbroken by modifying redsn0w to accept the firmware. However, many of Cydia's repositories are screwed up right now, so I would hold off until the dev team clears it. EDIT: The dev team just released a new beta of redsn0w.

I took a gamble and pointed redsn0w to the GM build of iOS 4. It works, but Cydia isn't up to the task yet; it is filled with repository errors. This also enabled multitasking and the changing of wallpapers on the 3G. It's a long process and only works on the 3G (that I know of, I don't have any other devices and I think redsn0w only jailbreaks the 3G) but if you want I will walk you through it.

Not really. They are two/three year old devices with insufficient hardware to support the more intensive processes. Everything else is enabled. Apple is truly trying to get users to let go of their 2G iPhones. The 2G uses the same processor, GPU, RAM etc as the 3G, with the only difference being in the AGPS and 3G chip. Which is a shame really, because the original iPhone is beautiful in my opinion. Much nicer than the plastic shells on the 3G/3GS.

Judging by the spam and flames, I think we can all agree that this thread isn't getting anywhere, anytime soon.

Moved to Tech & Computers. But before you complain about the 3G not getting multitasking, you should try it out yourself. I had the GM developer seed and enabled multitasking on my 3G by altering plist files. Put simply, it doesn't work well. 128MB of RAM is not enough to keep all of those applications running simultaneously. Even with just the springboard open, you have at best 50MB of RAM free. I was disappointed about the wallpapers, but that too can be solved by editing plist files. Have fun jailbreaking, though. I'll be jailbreaking 4.0 with redsn0w in a few minutes. I'm looking forward to the delivery of my iPhone 4 on Thursday.

I see a lot of abuse with legalizing polygamist marriages. What is to stop a man from marrying twenty women (or vice versa) - all of which gain marriage benefits - just so each party can get those advantages. But I'm certainly not an expert on how each state sees marriages, so perhaps my opinion isn't too well-founded.

I hope that is sarcasm. :mellow:

If he watches 100+ YouTube videos per day, half of which he stops halfway through, that's a good chunk of 'unused' data. By throttling the speed, he can effectively match the download speed at the rate he views the videos and thus no data goes unused. :) It works for YouTube videos, but it wouldn't work effectively for downloading files. However, since the throttle is controlled via a piece of software, it can be changed depending on the situation.

They make consumer HDD/SSD hybrids nowadays with built in NAND flash up to 4GB. It's 2.5" but I don't know about any 3.5" variants. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148591&Tpk=Momentus%20XT

Works for me.

I don't know what you value when you buy a laptop, but good support is definitely relevant when you buy any electronic device.

Michael Dell was the CEO when I had to contact the General Attorney to get a remedy to their less than poor customer support. I was thrown around by each CS representative because no one wanted to deal with me. I have 40+ hours documented on their phone support. I even took the liberty of recording those phone calls after one of their representatives told me "you are wasting my time," which he later tried to correct and say that "no, no ma'am, you are wasting your time." That conversation later ended with the rep hanging up on me and telling me to call the same number again. Yeah, that's quality support. :rolleyes:

Use karil's skirt instead, and a bless spirit shield if you can. For the +range bonus? (Kskirt) Switching V skirt w/ K skirt = More mage def (what you need at arma) and spirit shield -> blessed spirit shield compensates for the melee/range defenses. [/hide]So mage def is what I should be going for? Infinity boots then? Silly jester boots. :)

Of course they do! I may not agree with some of their decisions, but I've already ordered the new phone. :wub:

Some do not have the means to change station. In many cases it is more than just the desire to relocate.

Manuals are available online these days.

Just moving this to questionnaires. :)

I thought so too, at least in the press shots. However, Apple posted those photos on a black gradient - which I think makes a difference - so I think it looks a lot better in Engadget's photos. The only thing that irks me is the visibility of the front-facing camera and the various sensors. I have grown tired of the black colour on my 3G; it's time for a change. :)

Definitely pre-ordering on the 15th. Getting the white 16GB as an upgrade to my 3G. The bumper accessories look really nice too, but I'll wait for the <$5 knock-offs.

There's an Apple Lisa in my father's attic that still runs and it was introduced in 1983. I usually switch up every three years or so, however. To answer your question, it really just depends on how your computer is treated and the quality of the manufacturing. Hard drives are rated to last 1,200,000 hour mtbf (mean time before failure) or about 130+ years. Batteries are the only thing that don't last too long, but that's really only in a laptops and some servers (user-replacable anyway).

More like: if you can only drive an auto, your licence should say so and therefore you shouldn't be able to drive manual. But if you don't know how to drive a manual, it's pretty difficult to pull out onto the highway and get going.