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That inventory works perfectly for me (99 prayer). I hope you noticed prayer requirement i have set. If you have lower prayer level you will need more prayer potions of course. I am using them only if I disconnect or if I need to wait for team to go in. Using barrows armour with bunyip might work but then you couldn't use combat familiar. For me it would mean -35k xp per hour and that's something I don't want to happen. I won't put anything about tanking and healer familiar tactics because doing it with prayer and combat familiar is the main idea of this guide. Trust me, combat familiars are much more comfortable to use if you pray instead of trying to tank since you can have multiple monsters all the time attacking you and thus familiar will be hitting those monsters almost all the time too.

... which is exactly the reason why there is 95+ summoning requirement in the beginning of the guide. Other familiars I mentioned are just suggestions for lower levels who may want to try this out ;) Yeah, Az's are about same xp per hour and profitable instead of spending money but there you also need much more attention to do it in effective way. Pietying means a lot more prayer recharging times and getting profit means also that you need to use effort to pick up drops and click all the time everywhere to see if that drop is worth picking. And they don't stay autoaggressive without effort either. And I don't even mention how crowded they are nowadays. I added some notes of prayer potions. I have been training now my defence and attack stats in this way and by this far my titan has gained over 750k defence xp for me alone whilst i have been training attack myself. I regret now a bit I didn't start doing that earlier because now I can't train 99 attack while using titan for defence training because I will get 99 defence too soon. But this means also that I will try using some other familiars in future there and check xp and cost rates of them too and post them into this guide.

Hehe, used this method about 1,5 years ago, first to get 20m to give as a present for my friend who had her 20th birthday, then to get money for my DFS that i desperately wanted (bought it for about 27m). So totally I have got nearly 50m cash by doing this :D Back in that time I sold Snape grasses for 500 ea.

Original guide was just about using Iron titan. Added other familiars later, so until chapter 6 this guide talks only about using Iron titan at orks. Table of Contest: 1. FAQ 2. Requirements 3. How to do it: Step-by-step instructions 4. Xp rates and cost calculations 5. Notes 6. Other fighting familiars 7. Closing words 1. FAQ Q: Why should I do this? A: Fighting orks is reasonable fast combat xp that doesn't require much clicking and it's also very easy to do other stuff while training. For example,I wrote this guide while being there without gaining any less xp than i had gained without writing this. Remember that afking is not allowed ;) God wars dungeon is also pretty fast to access compared to some other training places. Q: How fast xp this is? A: 70k + 35k = 105k xp per hour based on attack level 93 and strength level 97. 70k becomes from your own fighting and 35k of your titan's fighting. Titan trains defence, you can train whatever you want. Q: How much does this cost? A: About 70k per hour if you have 90+ prayer level. A bit more if it's less and a bit more if you are doing this with lower attack and strength stats than recommended. 2. Requirements: 95+ summoning 90+ attack 90+ strength 90+ prayer Access to God wars dungeon. You can do this with lower levels too but it's not as efficient and will cost you more since you will be needing prayer potions. You can also use another familiar but then you have to do a bit your own research for best results. In my opinion iron titan is best possible familiar to use here because it trains defence (steel titan trains range that can be trained quickly with chins, same with geysir titan. Of course they are good option to use too if you prefer range xp). 3. How to do it: Step-by-step instructions Step 1: Preparation - Buy/make/get items and gear that you will need (check equipment and inventory below) - Enchant your helm of neitiznot at Pikkupstix in Taverley Step 2: Equipping yourself and getting inventory ready - Equipment: Back: Fire cape > Trimmed skillcape > Zamorak cloak > Guthix/Saradomin cloak > nothing Body: Proselyte Hauberk > Initiate Hauberk > monks robe top Feet: Dragon boots > Rune boots > Climbing boots > White boots Hands: Barrows gloves > Dragon gloves > Regen bracelet > Adamant gloves > Combat Bracelet Head: Helm of Neitiznot (e) > Berserker helm (e) > Anyt otherenchantable hat/helm.. Legs: Proselyte cuisse/tasset > Initiate cuisse/tasset > Monk robe bottom Neck: Amulet of fury > Zamorak stole. Depends on your levels which one you should use. Ring: Ring of life > Berserker ring > Explorer ring 3. Depends on your levels which one you should use. Shield: Rune defender > Unholy book. Depends on your levels which one you should use. You can try also DFS but I prefer rune defender over it here. Weapon: Abyssal whip > Saradomin sword (for str training) > Saradomin Godsword (saves 1 inventory slot since it's your spec weapon too. Also gives nice prayer bonus) - Inventory: 6 zamorak brews (4) 6 super str (4) potions 1 summoning potion (4) 5+1 iron titan pouches (summon first one in bank and recharge summoning points at trollheim) Approximately 1300 iron within scrolls Hammer Saradomin godsword/Ancient mace (spec weapon) Bandos boots/tassets/chest/granite mace (not needed if you have ancient mace) 2 fire runes 2 law runes 4 prayer potions 1 click teleport When you choose your equipment, keep in mind that you have to kill 40 orks in 10 minutes without running out of prayer points. Thus if you have high prayer level you can choose to use strength/attack boosting items instead of prayer boosting items in back, neck, shield and ring slots. If you prefer a bit faster training for some cost you may want to choose to bring a bit more prayer potions and use str boosting prayers or piety. This will make trips shorter (take less boost pots and pouches) and will also require a bit more attention. If your att/str levels are lower than recommended, take 5 titans and boost potions instead of 6 and take more prayer potions. If you are not putting constant attention on game I recommend wearing ring of life. Zamorak item is not necessary but can be helpful so that you won't be wasting time for killing nearby bloodvelds, vampires and werevolves if you have problems getting kc fast enough (too low att/str levels or not good enough familiar). Use either stole, cloak or unholy book. There is also one gorak that can kill you if you are not careful without zamorak item. Step 3 : Getting there - First hop to lootshare world. Doesn't really matter which one. - Summon your first iron titan, withdraw last item out from bank and teleport to trollheim. - Wait a few minutes if your summoning level is just 95, if it's higher there is no need to wait. - Recharge your summoning points. - Equip your Saradomin godsword (if you have it) and bandos item and run into dungeon - Go northwest near the entrance of Bandos's Stronghold. - Activate Protect from Melee prayer, unequip your bandos item, equip your whip+defender (or whatever weapon you are using) and start killing orks and jogres. - Keep your auto retaliate on - Make sure you keep your helm charged with scrolls all the time. - Drink a sip of your boost potions every 15 minutes. Iron titan lasts for 60 minutes so it's easy to use its timer for this purpose. Step 4: Prayer recharge - Once you get 40 kc and run out of prayer points, equip your bandos item, run through Bandos's Stronghold and enter room when boss is dead. Minions won't attack you. Most likely there is team inside there and if not usually you don't need to wait for long. Run to altar, recharge prayer and use altar to teleport out. Go back to orks, activate prayer and unequip bandos item. This will take about 30-40 seconds if you don't need to wait. If you like taking little risks you can go in even if boss is alive. You may take some 35s damage from boss's range attacks if you are unlucky but usually you can just go to altar, recharge prayer and then teleport out without engaging combat. - I suggest you use 10 minute countdown timer after each prayer recharge so that you won't enter room before being able to recharge. Nothing is more annoying than that :) - Use your sgs/ancient mace special attacks every time you can, remember to flash piety when speccing. They can be extremely helpful if you don't have very high prayer. For some reason using familiar scrolls in headgear makes your special attack bar recharge a lot slower, so be ready for that. I don't know if it's bug or what. - Notes of prayer potions: If you do this properly you won't need them. You need to use them only if you log out/disconnect when you haven't just recharged prayer points or are distracted and don't want to stop training. Or then if your levels are not high enough and you need to take 1 dose to be able do this. Or if there doesn't happen to be team at bandos and you need to wait for a while. Or simply want to spend a little for faster xp :) Step 5: Renewing familiar - When you first time renew your familiar you shouldn't need to drink summoning potion. Iron titan needs 10 remaining summoning points to summon. This is reason why you waited a few minutes in the beginning of the trip. Notice that going through icy area lowers your summoning points by a few points. - After that simply drink a dose of your summoning pot before summoning new familiar. 4. Xp rates and cost calculations This is my test for attack xp when using whip and defender based on my levels 93 attack, 97 strength. a) Player Beginning: 7,450,000 att xp After 2 hours: 7,590,000 att xp 140k xp in 2 hours -> 70k xp per hour. B) Familiar Beginning 4349+90 scrolls 12,269,563 defence xp After 1 hour 4131+90 scrolls 12,304,107 defence xp 218 scrolls used and 34,5k xp c) Cost per hour 218 scrolls -> 276gp times 218 = 60k 1 iron titan pouch = 3k. 1 zamorak brew(4) (1900 gp) 1 super str (4) (4,200 gp) Total cost per hour = 69,1k Total xp per hour = 70k + 34,5k = 104,5k 5. Notes - If you have to log out during training, do it always immediately after recharging prayer. After logout you always have to wait 10 minutes to be able to recharge your prayer points at altar - Zamorak brew restores 9 prayer points if you have 99 prayer. Don't waste that restoring by having full prayer points when drinking it. - If you are using familiar that doesn't have combat scrolls and are willing to use money for extra prayer potions you may want to switch your equipment to full melee void. - Keep your sounds on so you will hear when you run out of prayer points if you are not looking into game window. - Orks don't drop anything worth picking up. Some zamorak monsters and jogres drop occasional charms that you may want to pick up if you see them. - When going back after prayer recharge you can simply click your minimap next to big door and it will open automatically for you :) Handy, eh? - Extra tip: You can kill also bandos spiritual mages by using same tactics. It requires more clicking, though. 7. Other fighting familiars Instead of remaking the whole guide I will include some other familiars into this section. - Abyssal titan for training attack (93+ summoning required) Use same equipment as you would use with iron titan and following inventory 5 zamorak brews (4) 5 super str (4) potions 2 summoning potion (4) 9+1 abyssal titan pouches (summon first one in bank and recharge summoning points at trollheim) Hammer Saradomin godsword/Ancient mace (spec weapon) Bandos boots/tassets/chest/granite mace (not needed if you have ancient mace) 2 fire runes 2 law runes 1 prayer potion 1 click teleport Abyssal titan lasts for 32 minutes. If you drink a sip of boost potions between every 16 minutes (2 per titan used) 5 potions will last for whole trip. It's a bit weaker familiar than iron titan, thus you need a bit higher other stats so that this method will work without usage of prayer potions. When I was testing Abyssal titan I was training purely attack and got following xp rate: Starting xp: 9,425,000 After 60 minutes: 9,517,000 (+92k) After 60 minutes 9,611,000 (+94k) After 60 minutes 9,704,000 (+93k) Assuming I was getting around same xp of my own fighting as i did with iron titan, using abyssal titan gains approximately 93k-70k = 23k extra attack xp per hour. Current GE price of abyssal titan is around 4,2k. You will be still using about 1 zamorak brew and 1 super str potion per hour, thus total cost per hour with this will be somewhere near 14-15k. - Swamp titan for training attack (85+ summoning required) Xp rate: somewhere between 13-16k extra xp per hour + what you get of your own fighting. Don't use scrolls, they won't do any damage that you would get xp from (only poison effect). If you use it, use similar setup as you would with iron titan, just remember it's harder to get 40 kc in same time with worse familiar. - Lava titan for training strength (83+ summoning required) Xp rate: In my test I started from 10,855,400 str xp and after 1 hour I had 10,869,774 str xp. Thus lava titan gives 14-15k extra xp per hour when using this method. Don't use scrolls, even though they do damage you won't get xp from them. Other than that you can use exactly same inventory as you would with iron titan (lava titan lasts for 61 minutes). Since lava titan is quite weak fighter you will most likely have to switch your rune defender for zamorak book or amulet of fury for god stole or helm of neitiznot for mitre to get enough kc before running out of prayer (I have 99 prayer and was using sgs, still had problems when using fury, defender and neitiznot helm). Lava titan pouches cost 3,5k ea, total cost per hour is about 10k. 7. Closing words This is my first guide for tip.it forums that i have actually published :) Been trying to write some Barbarian assault guide, Mithril dragon guide and how to kill yourself -guide earlier but never got them ready. Thank you for reading it and if there's something you want to point out or compliment or rant feel free to do so. If you have some important additional information I will be glad to add it into my guide. For example, xp rates of other familiars would be great ;)

Got wings :)

Hehe, I got it before you ^^ (posted pic 2 pages earlier) Grats anyway and no reason to do other skills, fishing for the win ;) I won't stop it before getting 200m

Nice to see I am not the only one forgetting things.. One thing anyone hasn't mentioned yet are summoning scrolls.. Bird scrolls for sara, yak scrolls, unicorn healing scrolls... Forgetting teletabs.. forgetting to refill ectophial after using.. forgetting that spade for barrows lol, forgetting hammer for bandos.. grapple for arma.. hatchet for brimhaven dungeon.. money for brimhaven dungeon.. various items for coordinate clues.. throwing axes for dagannoth kings.. summoning pots back in time when sr didn't restore summoning points..

Believe it or not but I like all tasks. I don't remember I had ever skipped or blocked any task (83 slayer). They all have own pros for me.

170m left :)

Not bad guide. I have tanked quite a lot at bandos too, using my unicorn. I would say that if you can use both unicorn and pack yak, use only unicorn :) 3 times 14 hp healed per kill is usually enough (depends on team of course) If you take yak you have to take like half of it's inventory pouches.. especially if you use brews. I take usually like 10 unicorns, should be enough for almost any team. My tactic also is a bit different than yours. What i do is stand on its spawning place. When it spawns i click meleeprotection on, then click to attack boss and after that before hitting click piety on. Then i keep attacking boss, healing myself with unicorn scrolls. When I have used full bar I spec on mage if i need healing, then continue attacking boss. Just in the end of the kill I start using guthans on mage If i need healing. Don't really want to get minions on me because of final hit if I am low hp. I usually take like 2 brews, 1 pure set, some super restores and rest sharks (don't forget uni pouches and scrolls :)). Brews are mostly just for defence boosting (and emergency situations if i happen to run out of food, that happens sometimes) What I also do is taking unholy symbol for zamorak item for killcounting, just for making getting it faster. Also, I am taking armadyl gs along with sgs so i can kill all goblins near aviansies too (hey, you have unlimited running energy, why not to use it to run after all goblins instead of staying in one place. It's good to have it also in case your team is getting crashed.

Biggest fails.. I'm so ashamed. Losing armadyl skirt and ranger boots when soloing armadyl.. After that I have always been checking what i am going to lose in case i happen to die when going to solo gwd bosses. Another time I got lootshared armadyl hilt. Felt quite nice. Well, did another armadyl trip later with friends on same day, ended up dying. There was my full armadyl, archer ring and other stuff in grave again. Well, no problem, friends blessed my grave and I took my 2nd armadyl set and went back. My friends had teled off already but there was another team in. After looting my stuff and sending extra items to bank with my yak I asked to join that random team. They gladly accepted and later we got skirt (it was cs team, about 3m split). Sad thing is I hadn't destroyed my grave.. then i die. GF. There they go again. Calculated I gained 60m and lost 40m on same day ending around 20m profit. Had quite mixed feelings on that evening. And yes, you can start laughing. And one more armadyl fail. Forgot teletab. Noticed it when i was left alone killing last boss when other teammembers teled. And didn't know about altar tele possibility back in that time.. Fortunately got Kree killed before running out of supplies.. Edit. Some fails from my past... - I spent some hours looking for some fishing spots all over the world just because i didn't know you should right click them.. - afking at fishing guild wearing black elegant set back in time it was worth 1m (it was a lot of money for me and i had worked hard for it by fishing lobsters). Found myself at falador.. still don't know what random killed me. I think i was doing my bedsheets in the morning or something like that. - Started playing runescape.

Was about 1 year ago :)

There is, Void shifter: Fights (Level 46) ( Attack xp) Teleporter - if you are in combat and have less than 10% of your Hitpoints, it will teleport you to the Void Knight Outpost

My banners by this far :) My first was jogre scroll, got it sometimes as new member when killing them with my friend. Second was hobgoblin scroll when killing them for 1k limpwurt roots. 3rd Goblin scroll I got when getting kc for bandos. Only scroll I have really tried to get is ghoul one.. Have killed them well over 10000 but still no success. And of course I kill imps when one comes nearby :) And here is pic of my goblin scroll: And reward:

You can't use fighting familiar there, unless you go deeper into dungeon. Anyway, i don't know if they drop same amount of charms in wb dungeon and chaos dungeon.

Lighthouse dagannoths with cannon are still better if you are only after slayer xp. But yes, I kill these in chaos tunnels too, mostly because of better charms and better profit. I usually wear slayer helm, proselyte legs and body and sgs (which gives nice prayer bonus which is reason i use it instead of whip+defender when slaying with prayer). In my experience all those hides sell usually really slowly, but they can be used as junk too in case you are inpatient like i am. And you cannot use cannon in Chaos tunnels...

I really started to want to try this after reading this guide, excellent work. I just don't have team... Any chance you could add me and ask for trip sometimes. I am quite experienced there, although it has been quite a while for last time. (5+ d axes & berserker rings, usually was mage for team) Stats: Attack: 90 Str: 91 Def: 90 Hp: 97 Range: 98 Magic: 98 Prayer: 81 Summoning: 88 And gear I would be using: SGS Ranger boots Amulet of Fury Archers Ring Barrows Gloves Veracs helmet Armadyl Chesplate Veracs skirt Crystal bow

Thank you :) Took a while to get used to that tactic, still don't do it too great. And getting killcount is still as annoying as it was when i did sara with team. Should get a few more slayer levels for mages :/

Fighting familiars are really distracting when luring, i don't suggest them after expirementing (or in fact i used just terrorbird for energyrestoring and extra prayer pots) :P But one thing i wonder.. why to lure those meleedagannoths to stuck when you can easily kill them too in your main bursting spot. It works for them as well and give you more xp per spell.

Yes, tell me that firemaking is useless ;)

Just did one trip, this is loot: Notice amount of crimson charms. And what's worth: Timed trip too, took about 30 minutes. Got help for a few kills from someone who tried to steal kills. Used supplies: 1,75 sara brews, 1,5 super restores and 1,75 range pots, 0,25 restore pots, 1,5antifire pots, 0,5 antidote++s (well, wouldn't need that good antipoison pot, it poisons quite rarely anyway), 1,75 prayer pot, 1 war tortoise pouch, about 31 cooked sharks + unchecked amount of enchanted diamond bolts (under 100 anyway). Someone can sum up total cost if wants :))

If it really has that bad drops, tell me why it's almost impossible to find a free ls world at any time. KBD is not really that bad to kill, in my opinion. Not sure how many kills I can get in solo trip, but could as well try now and post result after. But it really drops nice amount of crimson charms and also has good regular drops (Rune longswords, 100 noted yew logs, etc.)

- Get all naval sets and Port Phasmatys flag (duplicate of flag, it doesn't go into costume room) - Get golden cw armour - Get full penance armour (duplicates too, don't go into costume room) - Get expert dragon archer hat - Get your white knight rank to master level - Complete all Challenge scrolls and become The champion of Runescape - Get full void - Get full lumberjack costume - Get full rogue's armour Just a few things that came into my mind (yes, i have all those except cw armour). Minigames really can give you something to do for quite a while. You can also set some drop goals for yourself. Like getting dragon full helm, dragon chainmail or dragonic visage as personal drop.

Fished lobsters. I still remember how excited I was when selling them in W2 Falador and getting 1M coins in trade for 4000 raw lobsters. It was incredible amount of money and I really had to check someone pays right :)

Great guide but I just wonder have you actually thought using familiars there? Maybe some of the following things might be useful? Smoke devil scroll: Dust cloud, inflicts up to 8 damage on up to 6 adjacent opponents. GE-price per scroll: 234gp. Giant ent scroll: Acorn missile, inflicts up to 17 damage on up to 3 opponents. GE-price for scroll: 303gp Forge regent: Right-click Fireball - flaming attack that hits up to 6 enemies for up to 5 damage each. (No scrolls required, so cheap extra damage). Swamp Titan's scroll: Swamp Plague, area effect Magic attack that can poison your enemies. GE-price for scroll: 357gp.