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To be more accurate, no-lifing is when you're a zombie. 8-) No, actually you're wrong, anyway. Grinding is when you train through constant repetition. "No-life" refers to neglecting other activities outside the game to play Runescape (or a similar game), especially when grinding. It's entirely possible and very common to grind without "no-lifing".

Your rates are too low. I can consistently surpass 50k xp/hr at Barb. You're probably doing something wrong, or else it's a statistical anomaly.

That'll have been a rhetorical question, I think.

Yeah, well, what does Superman know? He wears his underwear on the outside of his pants. I'm not taking any fashion tips from that guy. :lol:

I've heard that completing Fairy Tale Part 2 has some effect on this sort of random growth time suspension problem, but that's just hearsay.

Range top unfortunately requires 40 defence. I said Rouge. It's the armour you get from the Rouge's den minigame. Correction. Rogue. Rouge is a kind of makeup. A rather silly thing to confuse. :P

The first part is false and the second part is true. Both those exp rates are way too high, but you can easily prove mathematically that the extra speed of fly fishing is only worth the money lost if you can make over ~500k gp/hr. Similarly, you can also prove mathematically that you need to make less than about 210k gp/hr for fly fishing to beat heavy rod fishing, if you don't assign any value to the agility, strength, and cooking experience. (If you did give them an appropriate time-value, you'd need to make less than ~160k gp/hr for fly fishing to be better.) Anyway, it's obviously impossible to say your income fits into both of those, so one way or the other fly fishing will NEVER be an efficient training method for getting 99 fishing. Alternatively, you could simply average out monkfish and heavy rod fishing. If you fished at Baxtorian for an hour for every hour you spent fishing at Piscatoris, your average xp/hr would be the same as purely fly fishing, but you'd make more money and you'd get bonus experience in three other skills.

Interestingly enough, many of those are fairly recent additions to f2p. Only about a year ago, there were NO minigames in f2p, period. None at all--they were all members-only. Then the duel arena opened its gates to all players, and soon afterward f2p got Clan Wars and Bounty Hunter to replace the old Wilderness pvp system. FoG and TGOP are even more recent. Cockroach soldiers are also a relatively new monster. And if you think yews, coal, and lobsters are good for cash, you should see the stuff we got in members. P2p'ers with no quests and level 1 in every skill can make quintuple the cash of a f2p level 99 lobster fisher. And if you think cockroaches and ice giants are profitable monsters, wait until you try Aviansies. ;) Anyway, I think Jagex has been really generous with f2p updates in recent times, and I see no reason to begrudge free players their updates. Besides, all the f2p updates are usually even better in members. Ankous and roaches drop charms, herbs, herb seeds, better runes, and clue scrolls when you go to a members world. The runecrafting guild has lots of members-only stuff, like pure essence and high-level teletabs as rewards, omni-talismans, the guy who sells and repairs runecrafting pouches, and you can visit the nature and chaos altars in the minigame. FoG is the only one that disappointed me, because none of the rewards from it were relevant in p2p, since better equipment was already available. Nothing to complain about on either side, so far as I'm concerned.

One of my clanmates is going for 99 herblore because he likes training the skill. It's not just putting ingredients together for hours on end. It's also the challenge in obtaining the ingredients. Not just farming herbs and collecting snape grass spawns, but even the challenge of trying to buy and sell the ingredients and the finished products on the Grand Exchange with the minimum amount of loss, watching the markets and so forth. And it's partly the thrill of doing something because nobody else does it, sort of like a Magic: the Gathering player making a deck based on Norin the Wary, a creature who runs away whenever anyone attacks, rendering him useless for all the combat purposes for which you would normally want a creature. (Think of a weapon that unequips itself anytime you enter combat, and that's basically Norin the Wary.) Herblore is kind of like that deck, only longer and more expensive.

I'll back up these numbers, and add that heavy rod fishing is about 50-56k exp/hr. I strongly recommend AGAINST fly fishing, lobsters, sharks, or swordfish. All of them are less efficient than either monkfish or heavy rod fishing. You should go with the heavy rod fishing--I'm sure you'll appreciate the agility levels. I know I did. I'd also like to point out that this is incorrect. The best fish for laziness is actually monkfish.

Well then. I assume you consider thieving to be less worthy of respect than fletching. It's much faster to train. :geek: So why get 99 strength when it's almost functionally identical to 96 strength? You're getting millions of experience to maybe increase your max hit by 1? Is that really so useful? Clearly the primary motivation for going all the way to 13m exp is the skillcape. :ugeek: You can't "buy" any skill. All you can do is buy the materials. I don't know if you're under the impression that there's this magical genie somewhere who will sell you a construction skillcape if you give him 100m, but there isn't. You still need to spend some very long hours building things. As tintin113 has just testified, buying 85k logs is not the same as getting 99 firemaking. Would you say runecrafting is a "buyable" skill, because you buy all the pure essence? That'd be funny, since it trains slower than agility, which I don't think anyone would say is "buyable." Or is it? You buy super energy potions, after all. Hey, for strength, don't you have to buy a weapon? That sara sword costs more than all the logs for 99 firemaking. And can't you buy super sets for faster training? Can't you buy prayer potions to constantly use piety for faster experience? So isn't strength a buyable skill too? I hope you see how ridiculous your statement is. :roll:

Now, i would like to see you banking all the coal for 99. Or even the iron. :? I'd think it would be granite that you're banking, if you bank. It's better xp and more valuable than iron.

If you are very efficient, you should understand that sometimes it's better to use the expensive method because of the value of time. And you don't need to train slowly to have money rolling in. If you do your farming and your Miscellania and your daily battlestaves and maybe a little bit of investing, you'll get rich over time in spite of how you train. It's ok to prefer the profitable methods, but it's not ok to insult the people who don't. There are many reasons why people choose to go for 99s, and if the only reason was money, runecrafting would be the most common skillcape. It isn't. Folks have their own reasons. I can tell you that I personally went for 99 fishing and woodcutting because they're my favorite skills to train, and I feel comfortable enough training them to feel like "Yeah, I could do that." I felt jealous of other players who had skillcapes, and since there wasn't really anything standing in my way, I figured I might as well go and get one myself, and then two months later I could have my own skillcape instead of wistful stares at the skillcapes of others. And obsidian capes are lame. ;) Uh...I don't know what to say about that last bit. :? Bottom line is, if you acknowledge your viewpoint as pure opinion, it's not okay to bash anyone who doesn't hold the same opinion. And since the original question has been answered, I'm not going to say anymore on the subject here.

Doesn't make it okay to call someone a noob because they do approach their training with a different mindset. Well, I never called him a noob. Yeah. :ugeek:

Doesn't make it okay to call someone a noob because they do approach their training with a different mindset.

Offcuts are stackable. It wastes no time at all; you can drop them without even interrupting the speed of your fishing. And it's not much good doing a skill the slow way to make more money if you could have made more money in the same time by doing something else. If you can make 300k gp/hr, and you spend an extra hour for the same experience on a slower training method that gives you 100k more profit, you've actually lost money. You could have gotten the same experience with the faster method and made 200k more with your other moneymaker without spending any extra time.

If you're a member, you might consider simply going to the Warrior's Guild and buying pre-made plain pizzas there for only 200 gp with unlimited stock, and add your toppings to those.

Regen/combat brace is better. They give +7 and +6 strength respectively with no wielding requirements.

Heavy rod is the fastest fishing experience in the game, and the most efficient way to train fishing for most players. All you need is 45 agility, 45 strength, and 70 fishing to achieve the maximum rates. Take a knife and 25 bait to Otto's Grotto near Baxtorian Falls, south of Barbarian Outpost, west of the whirlpool. Talk to Otto in his hut to get a barbarian rod from under his bed. Use the rod to fish in the nearby fishing spots. When your inventory is full, gut your fish with your knife. You'll receive fish offcuts, roe, and caviar. Continue fishing to refill your inventory, then drop the offcuts when your inventory is full or almost full. With the offcuts gone, you can start using the roe and caviar as bait, which will empty your inventory as it refills it with more fish. Once you're back to a full inventory of fish, you can repeat the process. Each fish you catch will give a small amount of agility and strength experience in addition to fishing experience. You also receive cooking experience for gutting the fish. I highly recommend this method. Good luck. RayOxide, remember that you're not walking away from your fishing training at Baxtorian empty-handed. I went from 63-74 agility, 68-76 strength, and 79-84 cooking by the time I made it to 99 fishing. I consider those level-ups far more valuable than the meager sum of 10m or so I might have earned at Shilo.

Toadflax is actually more money (the most profitable herb right now actually, if you buy & sell grimy at median), but kwuarms are like double the experience, so might as well go with the kwuarms.

Umia there any faster way than pineapple and wine cause I don't want to wast 2 months on cooking I was hoping 1 =[ lol Wine is the fastest method. With wines, you could be done in 30 hours. It'd just cost you around 30m, that's all.

Level 62 fishing. And if you plan on heavy rod fishing, switch to that at 70.

You buy p'apple rings and plain pizza with no topping, and use them together. If you buy them in the GE, then the offer should be able to keep up with the speed at which you make them, but you can also buy pizza in the Warrior's Guild and slice p'apples into rings yourself if you have to. Then you can hope to sell the finished p'apple pizza for 550+ gp. If the GE price is lower than that, sell at max. It'll sell.

Thxs I think iwill heavy rod fish but how long will cooking papple take if I play 2-3 hours a day About 9-10 weeks, maybe.

Yews are slow at 85 too. In fact, they're slow at 99. Even in members with a dragon axe at 99, they're still slow. If you're gonna chop yews, you might as well go ahead and chop them, because waiting isn't likely to make them good.