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You have intricate knowledge of IPB's codebase I assume, so you have the authority to say that's a "couple lines of code"? I believe they have forums, try posting there and requesting this feature for their next release.

Well ideally what would have to be done(I don't know IPB's codebase at all) is simply using whatever function they have to generate a topic, but changing the query to return a list of posts by one user in one topic, rather than all posts in that one topic.) It really depends on how simple it is to recreate topics from scratch like that - and as IPB probably isn't as mod friendly as phpBB for instance that may not be an easy feat.

We'll have a lot more problems than being offensive to people if we have a terrorist base in new york. But you're searching for a needle in 5 haystacks. I never said it would be a terrorist base - I said that it may be possible that radical jihadist Muslims may use this community centre, and I stand by that. There's a possibility that tomorrow we will be invaded by aliens (lizardmen from Jupiter). There's a possibility that we don't exist and are just in some one else's dream. There's a possibility that next week I will learn to fly and you will learn to teleport. Need I go on? There's always a possibility for everything. If you're seriously going to disregard every single one of my last 30 posts in this thread showing how there is a reasonable possiblity radical muslims would make use of this mosque, then I'm done arguing. @troacctid: I'm glad you "know" that I'm wrong. You abhor my views, yet I don't see you striving to have them protected.

Until then, please shut up. You don't even have a reason to be suspicious, let alone evidence. :roll: Sure, I'd love to "shut up" because I don't agree with you. I hope you also "shut up" when someone who disagrees with you tells you to do so. I'm further glad to see you're defending whichever parts of the constitution are most convenient, and disregarding those that aren't(freedom of speech, anyone?). We'll have a lot more problems than being offensive to people if we have a terrorist base in new york. But you're searching for a needle in 5 haystacks. I never said it would be a terrorist base - I said that it may be possible that radical jihadist Muslims may use this community centre, and I stand by that.

I'm not arguing for stopping building at all, as I've reiterated countless times so far. At some point, that what if will be certain fact; once they release a full funding statement for instance. At that point, if they haven't accepted funds from radicals, great. If they have, they'll allow radicals use of the community center, and that can be seen as offensive to the memories of those who perished in 911.

Come back when you can identify exactly which funds are being provided by exactly which radicals. Then we'll talk. Until then, you have nothing. Once the thing actually gets built, and they provide a funding statement, then I'll be glad to. However, I'm sure Fox News will do it for me :P

No, that only searches post text - for example searching "Y_Guy" in this topic brings up Bows' post only, because he mentioned my name.

Yeah, I found that pretty funny. I don't give a [cabbage] about fox news though, so w/e.

It's not that easy :P

The Muslims involved in this project have done so. And I suppose they'll be refusing overseas funding from known radicals? Sure, whatever. *shrug* Exactly - they won't. You don't know they won't. Instead of giving [cabbage] reasons why not to do it like they might accept funds from some source, give us a real reason. I might walk outside tomorrow, fly to where you live, kill your girlfriend, your dog, and your family, 18 random strangers, and throw you off a cliff. Have any proof that I won't do it? What I was attempting to say is that he has no idea of that. They've already stated they will be accepting foreign funds - and some of those might come from radicals. If they take funding from radicals, they can scarcely disallow radicals entry, can they?

This. Other than that, I really like the first two :)

The Muslims involved in this project have done so. And I suppose they'll be refusing overseas funding from known radicals? Sure, whatever. *shrug* Exactly - they won't.

The Muslims involved in this project have done so. And I suppose they'll be refusing overseas funding from known radicals?

So, there was nothing, and then something happened to that nothing for no reason, somehow making everything. Real solid theory.

I'm a little confused. Are you saying that the mosque should be built, but you are just concerned that it isn't being built apologetically? Like a political incorectness in the way that the issue is being handled? And not an incorrectness in the planned course of action? No, I'm saying the mosque should be built, but I sympathize with those families who lost loved ones in that they may find it hard to take. The mosque being built is quite clear - there's no legitimate reason to deny it - in fact I believe such a mosque could help the general perception of muslims in the area.

False. If the Church does't condone pedophilia and molestation then why is that the Vatican was involved in a massive cover up, in which even the current Pope, Mr. Ratzinger was involved in: where priests were simply shipped from one parish to another instead of being turned into the proper authorities. There is probably some denial on their part even now. Clearly the Vatican doesn't care much for the law, or justice or either it doesn't think any of those Preists engaged in anything questionable? Which is it? Does the Vatican not care about the law or justice OR does it condone such activities because it doesn't think they are morally vacuous. That still isn't a plausible argument really. So what if some of them are extremists? There are 'some' extremists everywhere. Still don't know what you are getting at. There isn't any plausible reason to suspect Muslims of extremism more so than any other group. Do you even know the meaning of the word condone? If the church were to condone pedophilia and molestation they'd be making public announcements saying "Yeah, we're cool with pedophilia, you'll still go to heaven if you rape little boys". Cover-ups are meant to protect your reputation - this indicates precisely how clear it is that pedophilia and molestation are contrary to the overall teachings of the church. I've also never stated I suspect Muslims of extremism more than any other group - rather I've said(and I stand by it) that as a faith community they are less likely to alienate those members of their faith who do practice extremism. Yes and I'm sure that the white plantation owners also had their feelings hurt when all their slaves were taken away from them. You can't really let hurt feelings get in the way of civil liberties. Also I do not think that sheltering these families from reality is the best way to deal with their feelings. If you stop the mosque from being built, you continue to isolate the families from the reality that muslims exist in this neighborhood. If you build the mosque, these families must confront reality and will eventually move on with their lives. You can't just step on people because youre afraid some other people might throw a temper tantrum. Which is what I've reiterated several times. Do you also just expect the thousands of families torn apart that day to just "get over it", to just forget about everything? In a perfect world, perhaps, but not everyone is ready to forgive so easily. I am beginning to understand what your view is. So do you think that Muslims (especially in the middle-east, where the foundations of extremists groups are) as a group of people with similar religious views, should make war against extremists Muslim groups? I don't think they should make war, I think they should make it clear extremist beliefs are unacceptable. (as should any organization where small sects hold extremist beleifs)

So you're saying that some arbitrary Head of the Muslim Faith condones extremism and terrorism? By the way, actions speak louder than words, and while the Catholic Church may not condone rape and molestation in their church doctrine, they've done a hell of a lot to keep priests from being prosecuted: I agree that they have done that in the past, and it's unnacceptable. Thankfully, they've been more forthcoming in recent years, but that's a debate for another time. I know little about the hierarchy of the muslim faith - all I know is that the essence of the catholic faith is peace and nonviolence(at present anyway) and it's doctrine explicitly states that. The same cannot be said of the Muslim faith as a whole. No - the CLC - Canadian life coalition is a pro-life organization(not the extremist kind). To my knowledge, they preach the use of non-violent opposition to abortion in Canada - and do not allow members who preach violence and who are extremists. The muslim faith does not necessarily alienate extremists, that's the difference. Once again - I do support the building of the mosque. I just think that the far left often is insensitive to those who lost family and friends in terrorist attacks - you can't expect them to be happy that radical muslims(the demographic responsible for their deaths) will be using a mosque so close to the spot where their loved ones perished.

I did answer a few pages back, but I'll reiterate. Pedophilia is not condoned by the church - indeed the action is contrary to all the teachings and according to the doctrine those who offend in such a manner are going to hell. It would be an affront to an abused child to build a statue of the priest in question next to their house, not to build a church. I also said that while some Muslims may hate america, they aren't all extremists. However - some are - and this is undeniable. To be honest, although I don't agree that hating anyone for any reason is an acceptable state of mind, in general the middle eastern region has many good reasons to dislike america - and may do.

I think he's 18...could be wrong though.

I'm no cast expert :P but I'll hazard a guess that both the first and third casts involved a break either at the ankle or very near it, thus they need to provide support for the ankle and inhibit ankle movement. If you've got the second one, the break is probably closer to the knee and therefore the ankle support isn't as necessary. As always though, ask a doctor to be sure. EDIT: Indeed, if you've broken your femur, I can't see the first or third casts helping at all.

I think he was being sarcastic...

Of course - and as I've said many, many times, I support the building of this mosque. All I'm trying to say is that it is highly likely that this mosque will be of use to some radical muslims - and therin lies the affront to the memories of those killed in 911. Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson Angry protesters descend on mosque 'Burn Quran Day' an outrage to Muslims I don't know if you're referring to me as "OneGuy", but if you are....I don't see where you're coming from. I'm not defending any of the violent and otherwise ridiculous anti-islamic actions undertaken by radical Christians and other americans.

You're quite correct - I used that as an example of how some Muslims, at least, hate america. I think it's reasonable to assume as well, that some Muslims living in america, perhaps in new york, also hate america. Those ones certainly might visit this mosque. Really. What percentage of Americans hate America then, do you think? :wall: Lets see. The 911 attackers lived in the states, didn't they? How many times on this forum have we seen people say "i hate the states sometimes, I'm moving to Europe"? Look at the GB thread. Given the number of muslims that live in the united states, I think it's fair to say that at least SOME of them harbour ill feelings for america.

You're quite correct - I used that as an example of how some Muslims, at least, hate america. I think it's reasonable to assume as well, that some Muslims living in america, perhaps in new york, also hate america. Those ones certainly might visit this mosque.