Racheya

It wouldn't. Like I said. Training with frost dragon bones can be efficient for some people, not others. This is why my spreadsheets require players to input their incomes. Efficiency is different person to person. it is NOT the same for every person. I mean I have nothing left to say, efficiency is NOT the same for everybody. If you can't believe that, I have nothing else to say. I understand that efficiency can differentiate by levels BUT with everyone playing so efficiently there'll be a point where everyone reaches the top end of efficiency - at which point the most efficient method say, Frost Dragons, will be the most efficient for more and more people - eventually everybody. I've NO problem with efficiency but I don't believe that EVERYONE being efficient would make the game a better place. It would make it dull and nothing more than a second job.

Hehe, I think having the M is great! It makes for some really creative usernames. I've always loved [M]udkips :thumbsup:

Wait, why do you think efficiency dictates everybody doing the same thing. Because it doesnt. Efficiency dictates you doing something that is productive, and that you're better at than the rest of the community. if everybody were more efficient, it surely would not mean everybody focusing on a single resource. Because demand would rise for the resource. and the resource would become inefficient for those who cannot afford it. just look at the economy right now. Frost dragon bones are more efficient for those with prayer brawlers and insane incomes. Dragon bones are a sort of middle ground. and big bones are most efficient for the low leveled. Increased efficiency would not mean everybody going OMG I NEED FROST DRAGON BONES. No, that would not make sense. Actually it WOULD mean everyone would do the same thing. Everyone would be doing the MOST efficient things and there are very few of the 'most efficient' things. I can't really give examples since I don't know the most efficient ways of doing things. And, of course, efficient doesn't mean the most xp. It can mean monetarily efficient as well. Striking a balance between cost and xp - but it STILL means everyone doing the same thing. This is in a world where everyone does the most efficient thing, of course.

Racheya, fundamental rule of economics. The reactionary force is never greater than the impetus. If you send a wave at a wall, do you expect an even larger wave to come back at you? no. Same thing applies to the economy. yes, prices would rise as more people would only buy things that were efficient. but it will be outweighed by the overall rise in productivity of all the players. Think about what you're trying to say. Your saying that a rise in productivity will cause a reaction in the economy, that will be so strong, it will completely destroy the rise in productivity that caused the reaction. A reaction NEVER overwhelms the cause. Yes productivity will rise but ONLY in certain items, which won't be being bought meaning that people will have to buy overpriced items, to make items that won't sell all in the name of efficiency. I'm sorry but a world where everyone was efficient, ie - everyone did the same thing, would be disastrous to Runescape. RS's economy runs by the people and it NEEDS diversity and inefficiency.

Ah yes, it makes sense now :P

Except this is a topic about fast food chains and I'm talking about them, not insurance. I'm sorry, but they're still overpriced. Yeah, you can shop around and get the good deal. You can order from the value menu, because they're designed specifically to have very little profit because they're banking on you buying a drink or fries. But the average person who orders what they prefer, say a large whopper combo, is getting about 5$ worth of food and drink for an 8-9 dollar charge. I do agree that fast food is a luxury. I had fast food for my dinners at college, mainly because it was convenient and local chip shops *are* cheap. A meal at McDonalds costs me £3.20 whereas I can get a tray of chips locally for £1. However I know that making sandwiches would be cheaper but it's about getting a balance of convenience and price if you're having it on a regular basis. If you're just having a treat then it might be okay to splash out on the overpriced food now and again.

I fail to see your point? :mellow:

Like I said earlier, efficiency generally encourages the overall teamwork of the economy. if everybody else were efficient, (including OR excluding yourself) If people were more efficient, they would collect resources and level up faster and gain access to higher level resources, resources would become more abundant. cheaper bones, cheaper herbs, cheaper godwars items, cheaper everything in general. I do get ticked when people are very anti efficiency. It means they don't understand that, selling or buying a resource on GE is ultimately helping someone else out. Generally speaking, if someone buys or sells something on GE, it means they're willing to pay more than what they paid, or willing to sell for less than what they offered for. The majority of the time, a trade will do the other trader a favor. Actually it would reek havoc on the economy. People would ONLY buy the items that were efficient and, since it's not efficient to make those items in the first place, there'd be no supply and cause prices to completely skyrocket.

You should just be able to insert the image like any other image, though I can't remember off the top of my head if it'll move. If it doesn't, I'm not sure if there's a solution. I presume you mean to have the gif move on the screen.

This is exactly what I hate about efficiency freaks.

For training, easily rapier (which this thread has stated many times :rolleyes: ) I didn't want to read the whole thread and the last few pages didn't have the answer just a lot of confusing things :unsure: Thanks anyway guys :)

Without sparking a huge... thing... if I wanted a Chaotic weapon for general slaying - which would be best? I've not got the levels or tokens yet, but it might become a goal.

Is it possible Jagex nerfed it?

Just starting my Undergraduate Computer Science course. Might be getting a part time job at some point, though.

It's fine :P I'm a very picky eater though, I don't like a lot of other fast foods. I don't eat burgers or anything with sauce or anything I deem to be 'weird' so I'm limited to basic fast foods like chicken nuggets and chips :P

I'm not saying burn yourself out, I never implied that. In fact I don't like doing that to myself either :P What I'm saying is, it's good to have fun, but being efficient can have better outcomes in the long run. The best setup would be to have a combination of both. After all, fun is what drives you into this game in the first place right? I'm just glad dungeoneering is like that. I'm an efficient dunge dude (in f2p anyway), but dungeoneering is really fun for me too. I suppose a lot of people would agree on that, except for the dunge haters lol. (Now I wonder how the top-end players manage to have fun doing their "pp while fletch while alch for 12 hours"... :blink: ) I do think it's a good idea to be balanced. Sometimes you HAVE to grind and be efficient to get the levels for something fun you want to do. But I do think that it's important to put fun first, no matter what that fun may be. If being efficient is fun then go knock yourself out, but the problem comes when people push their own goals and methods onto others. Ampharos put this nicely, I think. I guess it's like how I ground RC on double xp weekend until it gave me a headache, because I wanted 77 RC to make blood runes. Doing that would mean I would be happy maging again in Dungeoneering, since I could make all the runes I needed. I enjoy maging very much and, even though it may be inefficient in Dg, I enjoy doing that far more than meleeing. Of course I don't like taking forever in things, but I like to not ALWAYS be in a huge rush.

Of course I'd had a bad McDonalds experience. There's one McD's near us that constantly gets orders wrong and by the time you've driven home with the food it's too late when you realise you're missing a fries. My mum even stands there at the counter checking everything before we leave now. BUT that doesn't stop me from enjoying the meal. It's a very British thing if you ask me. If they make a mistake, we don't get up in arms about it. They forgot to take the pickles off? We just take them off ourselves and carry on *shrugs*

Well if you think about it, if you were actually efficient with a particular skill, you would save time. And that saved time, you can go do something else like another skill or talk or go outside or something. In the end, pretty much everything favors efficiency over anti-efficiency. You don't got all the time in the world you know, especially if you're paying for something. There is an exception however, and that's fun. But you can be efficient while still having fun, no? You can be efficient while having fun, but you can't be efficient AT having fun. What you're saying is that I should be really efficient, burn myself out, then go have fun. I'd much prefer to just go and have the fun in the first place. I'll worry about how efficient I'm being later.

Anti Efficiency isn't a problem. Efficiency is. Your turn.

Oh wooooooooooooow That's some nice cosplaying <3:

Do people know if you can still get rocks after completing the home statue yet?

In a way, the £1 chippy in my town has served me well for a long time. A portion of good old chips will do me well, but when I'm out in the city or shopping and I'm near a McDonalds I'll almost always go there. Only my University has a McDonalds right across the road... help me :ohnoes:

Yeah, it's that easy. I prefer his idea, tbh. I've had this problem a few times myself.

I have no problem with players being efficient, I have problems with those efficiency players pushing THEIR requirements onto other players. If I want to take my time Dungeoneering, and don't think that the Shadow Silk Hood is God's gift to Dungeoneering, doesn't make me bad at dung at all. I'd rather just ENJOY it. Sometimes I do enjoy being efficient - but I always strive for a balance.

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