How can you get 85 horblore with only 25m? Point is people dont want to spend/ have the power to get 85 herb. Did I say you could? Oh wait no I didn't. I was just saying that after you get 85 herblore the dragonfire shield is an unnecessary waste of money. And if you're serious about killing anything you should consider leveling up skills instead of buying unnecessary armour when you have the ability to train that skill. Basically what I'm saying(for the third time because you clearly didn't understand it the first time and I have my doubts that you will the second time) is if you have the money to get 85 herblore get it and don't worry about the dragonfire shield because it is not worth the money. At least until you have 96 herb, 95 prayer, 99 summoning, bandos, claws, fury, and 25m that you don't need so you can buy an item to sit in the bank.