Powerfrog

I can't do corp yet myself as i'm a very lazy quester, but i came up with a theory i figure i'll throw at you guys now. Would it be possible to just suicide run corp with 3-4 people, one always being in the room at a time to avoid him heaing, and constantly BGS spec? At least until he's very low defense at which point you'll gear up one by one and finish him off normally. I have no idea how long getting back after a death takes, but i'm pretty sure it's fast. And for your question, i'd only use vestas spear and max offense in a free for all, as you obviously want to deal as much damage as possible per kill to get the loot. In a lootshare team, you can 'get away with' using a zammy spear and tankier gear and not wasting nearly as much money as the extra time per kill will be worth the M's you save from all the degrading spears.

Neither. Just go for what you need at the moment. Getting all quest requirments and various item requirments is a great way to start, as you can get the quests out of the way (Most of which reward you in some way, often in XP or new ways to get XP) and you can be confident that all your skills were meaningful, even if you don't like the skill.

Excellent. Care to elaborate a little on how exactly you do it though? Like, can you bank inside there? Do you just bring effigies in no problem? Can you start the 'battle' thing to use the boosts by yourself, or do you need assistance? I'm far from reaching the point i want to open all my effigies, but i've been planning on doing the same thing for summoning and have never used a clan citadel in my life.

I read runescape wiki like a bible, and because of that i'm pretty knowledgable about runescape even for things i don't have personal experience with. But my main peeve with them, is they very rarely give actual numbers. A bandos chestplate is a 'rare' drop. Yeah. Thanks sherlock. But how rare is 'rare'? Is there anywhere that has accurate drop rates, at least for the common things like GWD and other bosses? And how about things such as handcannon chance of exploding @ Level x (Or at the very least @ level 99). I'm sure that's easily guesstimated after a few 100 explosions, but i see no accurate, widely agreed upon figures anywhere. I swear to god if one of you says 'No-one knows because it's RANDOM' i'll beat you to death with a book of probability and chance. Hey, theres always a chance you'll survive it though, i mean after all, the chance of each bash causing internal bleeding is RANDOM. Note: I know that jagex don't make this information public. I'm talking about intelligent guesses based on large samples, such as a drop log of 10000 bandos kills, etc.

Oh boy. Where to start. Well today i disconnected at bandos JUST as my friend teleports out and i lose full elite void and an imbued berserker ring. (Good thing i had protect item on or you could add a fury to that list) Then later when i was getting revenge on bandos with a freind, on the very last kill my friend died risking a lot, so like a good friend i waited for the grave to appear, bless it and tele the hell out of there with 200 lifepoints and no food... Predictabley, I got destroyed. GF another few m. I did manage to bless the grave though :) Few weeks ago a close RL friend of mine quit runescape. That's a shame but wheres the loss for me? I had lent him 90m he was meant to be paying back. We're still close friends no matter what, and i understand that if he wants to quit he really shouldn't be oblieged to make back my pixels first, but it's still kind of a kick in the balls. Oh well, i'm sure he'll pay me back in booze. :D (ZOMG RWT) A month ago i anti-rushed a clawer for his claws and teled as he died because i didn't realise he was actually dead and didn't want to be KO'd by his second special. Anyhow, i ran back as fast as i could, couldn't remember where i killed him, and there i see it. A pair of dragon claws, when my total bank was only about 5m at the time, i click it and freak out as my character nears it... Nope. It appears to everyone else, and one the 700 looters standing on the pile gets it, along with everything else. I think i got a amulet of glory out of the whole pile. It feels good to vent out. I suppose i shouldn't be too mad, i have gotten 5 BCP duo splits in the past few days with less than 300 graardor kills. (0 tassets or boots, only 1 hilt. O.o)

Not far from the truth. I don't believe anyone that says they're never tried a bot. It's just a standard thing, everyone does it, nobody admits it. The only people that don't do it are the middle ages housewives and 10 year old kids that download virus[Caution: Executable File] from totallylegitbotsspawn6basecond.com and are scared straight from their bad experience.

Hes 65 range... Chinning sucks then. I'm assuming he's going for 99. 65-80 takes a few hours at most. (Chinning at 65 is still more xp than any other method anyway, it would not take long at all to level.)

All that proves is that he sold some Green d'hides. Does not prove nex dropped them.

Best way to train skill, but not the fast, cheap and easy way. *facepalm* Just chin. It costs like 25m at most and takes about 33 hours. (Starting at level 85) Compare that to killing whatever creature with a crossbow and broad bolts and getting 40k/hour... 300 hours+ of training. Is 270 hours of your time really worth less than 25m? (Hell, you'll probably lose money training with bolts.)

They're suprisingly rare. So they will probably maintain a high price for quite a long time. They're really not very good though. I mean sure, they're the best for the feet slot, but only by a tiny margin. The only real one worth buying unless you literally have 1b+ bank are the ranger ones, as they're not much more than ranger boots, and much much better than their cheaper counterpart, snakeskin boots. (Unlike steadfast vs dragon)

For my extreme calculations i actually valued them at 0. The gp/xp is based directly on costs of supplies, and not on resell value at all. If you were to value them even at their super pot price, which they are undoubtfully more useful than, they'd be even less. But again, this the entire reason any none skiller trains herblore in the first place, if we're talking efficiency, you'd be stupid not to make extremes as soon as possible, prices be damned.

Yes you're correct, and the BoB bones thing was the example i wasn't thinking of. I just found it out by doing the last 10 or so potions left, and dispite saving 3 feathers it only made 10 potions as i started with 10 feathers. Sorry for doubting you :D

Why exactly do you want one in the first place? :blink: Edit: Ohhhh. That quest?

Are you certain of that? I'm pretty sure if you have it set to 'All' it will continue going until it's finished, even if they do appear out of nowhere mid-cleaning. I can't remember which skill, but i'm sure this has happened to me before and it still did all of them, despite having more to do at the end than it did at the start. If that's true though, yeah, i can see it being slower and more annoying.

Special restores are only about 10gp per xp, and will be handy for crashing/anticrashing or just general boss killing. Very nice to have a few in the bank. Extreme attacks are only about 8.5gp per xp, and these are vital for making overloads or just general PVM. Very nice to have a few in the bank. (Isn't this why you train herblore in the first place?) Extreme strengths are about 13gp per xp, but you'll need them for overloads/PVM eventually, so might as well start sooner rather than later. Oh. And all the above are extremely fast xp/hour (450k xp/hour). Much better than doing something slow like serum 207 if you can make a few 100k gp an hour, even if you don't want extremes for some bizzare reason.

Ok so i recently bought a scroll of cleansing and it's already saved me a few M, i love it. :D I've been making potions the general way, 14 unf's and 14 secondaries... But it just hit me. Wouldn't it be faster to use 15 unf's and 13 secondaries, and just guess that you'll get 1+ saved per inventory. I'm hoping someone can do the maths and estimate on average if you'd get more than 14 potions per inventory this way. I know it's going to be close and not a big difference either way as banking is so easy, but i'm still interested in how i could be more efficient, even if it's just that 0.5% difference.

My main worry was if jagex would detect that i'm doing it far faster than humanly possible. If i were to only get the same speed as regular clicking, i wouldn't bother with it. I know they technically CAN detect it very easy as every action is timestamped, but the question is if they will actually look for it and do something about it. I pay them money every month, after all.

If XP is your sole want then yeah, this post pretty much sums up the runecrafting effigy collecting skill.

I admit i giggled when someone said 'you'll probably be banned pretty quickly' like does he even play the same game as me? But i don't want to risk it, as small as that risk may be. I appreciate the responses guys. And i wasn't aware a mousekey literally only clicked, i assumed it clicked and then automatically moved a certain distance, which is how people spam it to do things like drop fish. If it's just click the spacebar to do a click, that's pretty pointless, even from an efficiency point of view. Most people do multiple mouse keys together. Essentially if '1' is click and '2' is move mouse down, they'll spam 1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2-1, then '3' moves up, '4' moves right, then repeat the spamming of 1 and 2. It's faster than manually clicking and moving the mouse, but still legal as it follows the "one imput = one output" rule. Ahh right, i understand now. Still seems rather silly how we can type in binary instead of actually playing the game, i don't see how that's any different from botting other than the extremity of it.

I admit i giggled when someone said 'you'll probably be banned pretty quickly' like does he even play the same game as me? But i don't want to risk it, as small as that risk may be. I appreciate the responses guys. And i wasn't aware a mousekey literally only clicked, i assumed it clicked and then automatically moved a certain distance, which is how people spam it to do things like drop fish. If it's just click the spacebar to do a click, that's pretty pointless, even from an efficiency point of view.

I know, it's stupid that you can't click 1 button and have a program do everything for you.... :rolleyes: It's stupid that you can press the same button several 1000 times for the same result. I'm not arguing for full macro, i'm arguing against partial macro.

Soul split is game breakingly good and turmoil is a great deal superior to piety. Yes, if you can afford it, it's worth getting. I'd personally use dragon bones as the time saved isn't really worth the huge increase in cost to me personally. (For all you efficiency nuts, just because you CAN make 2m/hour doesn't mean you WILL make it) I tend to get about 1100 bones an hour using war tortoise and mounted glory, you'd probably get a tiny bit more with a RoD instead of the glory.

Ok, thanks for all the replies guys, i only did it for about half an hour anyway. To be honest that's a really stupid policy though. They allow us to mindlessly mash one button, but not to do the same thing but more conveniently?

Well i hear that mouse keys are allowed and i wonder just where the line between a mousekey and a macro lies. I can hold spacebar and this mousekey setup will clean a full inventory of herbs in seconds (literally 2-3 seconds) letting me do well over 10k an hour. Is this against the rules? Where does it state i can or can't do this?

It's definatley worth getting before bandos tassets. I'd even recommend it over fury, as it's the same strength boost along with +4 slash, which is more valuable than +5 defense in my opinion. The extra posion chance can be seen as a blessing or a curse. It obviously will speed up kills slightly on things that can be poisoned, but this leads to less xp from actual attacks when training. And most bosses that you actually want to kill and not for the exp, can't be poisoned. Honestly though. Just get a rapier. It's just so much better and dungeoneering isn't so bad when you get into it and find a reliable team.