Ruinous Edge

I didn't read that, it just made the most sense for that to be the quest. Yay for winning a bet? :grin: What about me? I said they should revamp knight's sword and Black knight fortress in the Falador/Sir Owen rework to :o (check page 6)

I've read somewhere, forgot the source that a siren is an evil mermaid that lures sailors to there death with her song, a mermaid though does not lure sailors to there death, although I've read somewhere else that a siren is part bird, not part fish...so many contrasting accounts make it hard to be 100% clear the difference between sirens and mermaids (if there is indeed any), knowing Jagex they will probably combine sirens and mermaids into one species, which as urza said seems commonplace in most pop culture dealing with mythological creatures

it would follow in line with streamlining the f2p starter quests like they did with Prince Ali rescue. maybe rename the new quest defence of Falador or something along those lines.

Oh yes of course, major derp moment there :/ on a plus note I finally achieved my firecape goal can retire a happy 'scaper now :) One slight issue with the lore of BoE, they should have updated the descriptions of the statues around the volcano, they still say they're made of Tokkul, which is causing suffering to dead ancestors still, which should lore wise at least anger the TokHaar, how hard would it be to update the description from Tokkul to something like stone?

I was under the impression the shared knowledge of the TzHaar was somehow passed onto the newer generation via Tokkul during the birthing process. I may be on a completely wrong thought process, maybe I'm misunderstanding the lore? I honestly am not sure. If I recall correctly memories and knowledge are passed from one TzHaar to the other through birthing, but TokKul is not a part of that process. TokKul comes from the dead body of a TzHaar which have the specific personality (The soul if you will) stored in them in everlasting torment. It is the last part the TokHaar objected to, not the birthing process if I have everything straight. Fair enough then, but if they did approve of the usual birthing process why did they seek to destroy the TzHaar by cooling down the volcano? Ga'al's were being produced before we fused the tokkul with Ga'al-Xox.

What if we smith a sword for sir owen, so he can raid the black knight's fortress to save Falador from a plot to invade it? That way we could introduce the signature hero Lianna(sp?), who is the smith, into the revamp too? recruitment drive really would be hard to involve SIr Owen in as it's a solo trail to prove your worthy to be a temple knight if I'm not mistaken.

Sir Owen is a temple knight, so I would assume Falador is next. So knight's sword i'm guessing and black knight fortress will be revamped next

I was under the impression the shared knowledge of the TzHaar was somehow passed onto the newer generation via Tokkul during the birthing process. I may be on a completely wrong thought process, maybe I'm misunderstanding the lore? I honestly am not sure.

No your jokes are just bad goml Problem is the eggs needed the sacred lava to melt and reforge the tokkul to create true TzHaars, hence without the sacred lava there were empty shells aka the Ga'al, the bare bones of the TzHaar if you will, stripped of there memories, heritage and combat prowess.

Problem is I'd hardly call the TzHaar's social scheme ineffective, there society thrived until TokHaar-Hok intentionally cooled down the TzHaar's volcano by turning off the sacred lava vents. They flourished, built relations with the humans, learnt our language and invented there own currency and a way to keep the memories of the long dead TzHaar's alive all since they split up from the TokHaar and elder kiln. And since when have Jagex been American? they're an English company based in Cambridge, the only American influence in Jagex is IVP as far as I'm aware.

hope this clears up some things with the whole sirens/mermaids issue It seems that through history sirens have had many interpretations, but were at some point depicted as mermaids, all depends on what depiction Jagex decide to take there lore This site discusses the origin of both words/creatures if anyone is interested http://forum.wordref...ad.php?t=581754

I thought their end goal was to force TzHaar to rejoin the TokHaar, by using their own champions to show them that their ways were wrong. Well it seemed an ultimatum either rejoin with the TokHaar in the elder kiln or perish with no new eggs developing as they should have. Hence the reason TokHaar-Hok refused to fuse the champions tokkul with the remaining Ga'al. We only discovered the plot with the lava flow because of Ga'al-Xox's knowledge of the lava vents in the original kiln and TokHaar-Hok seemed pretty annoyed that Ga'al-Xox lead us to the vents, Hok was determined the Tzhaar would return to the kiln or face extinction.

What are the requirements for hlf access Edit: nvm I've got a fair few 99s to go still :(

might be one of the mermaids from that quest where you hunt the big fish, deadliest catch.

Besides don't you need burnt meat for witch's potion quest, sorry I mean miniquest now.

ftp is getting a rough time recently, first no high scores now losing another 5 worlds. Peng world is long over-due glad to see them using w60, as it's so popular already. High risk wilderness worlds were pointless as no items were kept on death anymore anyway. Also player killing worlds sounds ominous...will it be like the old pk worlds that worked on rsc principals pk anywhere except banks etc. would introduce a new level of danger for pkers again, just so long as you get prior warning before logging into them.

The worst part is how effective it all was. However their true goal was far more sinister. They planned nothing less than establishing a front company in the market district of Tzhaar City with the aim of selling Heat Globes purchased for a fire sale price from the residents of Ghorrok fortress during the end of the God Wars. We would have had Tzhaar-hur working horrendous overtime only to spend all of their hard earned tokkul to heat their homes and warm their eggs, with the upper castes not faring much better. I thought Hok viewed the TzHaar as inferior/corrupt offshoots who refused to return to the Sacred Kiln, and as such decided that the best thing to do was to end their wayward race? That sounds about right, that's what I got from the quest dialogue personally. Bottom line Hok viewed TzHaar as inferior and thus took the executive decision that all ThZaar's deserved to die.

Hope Jake enjoyed his run as the number 1 player in the race to 5b, now he's got a snowballs chance in the tzhaar's fight cauldron to ever being the first to 5b.

i think that means the 90+ req. to make the range/mage/melee armour i.e. smith & rc etc., not the armour's power. Besides there is always a chance later on to either upgrade the PoP armour or make better version with a 95+ making req. Yeah, he means you can make each full set of level 85 gear with level 90 in the required skill. Barely difficult/exclusive content. It's an improvement on needing 99 smith to make level 50 gear (here's looking at you rune :/) Besides this way later on they can introduce a higher end armour tier 95 or something that requires 99 skills to make possibly.

i think that means the 90+ req. to make the range/mage/melee armour i.e. smith & rc etc., not the armour's power. Besides there is always a chance later on to either upgrade the PoP armour or make better version with a 95+ making req.

My bunyip was doing the same during the rooms without the lava grids and the final boss room. must be a glitch.

I can confirm that insta-kill darts work on the boss, reclaimed qp again :)

I got 91 fishing for the tasks w/ clay harpoons + swordfish gloves at the fishing guild. Obviously you spend way more time overall collecting the harpoons, however you get around 80-100k fishing XP/hr and it's very AFK. I'd much rather play lots of SC and do stuff in RL while I get lots of AFK fishing XP than do C2s or barbarian fishing. Though now that you can drop-x, things might not be so bad anymore :P Fishing 3 levels shouldn't take long at all. But to be fair I did sharks from 76 and it took me 8 months to 99 so I have some patience with fishing, but out of the two skills you have left I don't think I could cope getting those last 6 hunt levels...hate hunt so much..

possibly the shield but cape is unlikely, seeing as the new armour is modelled after the kiln cape. The new armor set includes a shield. Ahh fair enough, then there is no reason to raise tiers of obby cape and shield then. thanks for clearing that up