Levells

Any word on if they made familiars somewhat useful again? Not sure how to feel about the prepared pouches bit. Difference in citadel xp? Any fc's popping up for trading mask parts? Nvm, ty hlf. Some parts more common than others? (1 plate, 4 tops for me in a bit over an hour)

Don't know how active/useful it is, but I saw something on hlf about a friends chat that was for people going for it. FC: Nervous

Anyone can voke, it's not a shield ability. Provoke wouldn't save you anyway, that's resonance/barricade/immortality. From personal experience, my friend bought me arcane when I tanked at kk. I was new to it then, and the damage reduction was noticeable and life saving. I'd say that once you have more experience (tanking and with the boss) and learn better use of your abilities, it becomes more of an annoyance. Also, there are 2 kinds of tanks: dedicated tanks (with shields) and dps tanks (dual wielders). I might be wrong, but I believe most teams would rather go w/ dps tanks for kk, and just have someone voking with a shield, so you don't have 2 tanks/vokers and lose out on possible damage.

Bit under 2 hours in....only had 2 people show so far. 1 left early on and my friend went for dinner. So....if no one else comes in the next ~15 minutes, I'm just going to head elsewhere. No splits.

Sorry to hijack but what is this Leech ba and how does it work? [qfc]194-195-569-64782885[/qfc] Thought about doing it for my agility, but I somehow stayed sane and got it done without. Sounds just like leeching in dg, stand around and get the benefits as they rush through.

Leech ba is always an option, as well. They seem fairly active, from what I've heard.

We all know Stev loves his barraging and afking (dying) :p I haven't maged Kree since probably last December tbh, and that was with my abs, since it was the highest weapon I had at the time. Virtus is a bit too expensive to be an option for most people, I think, and I doubt ctaff is anywhere near as effective. So....I'd guess the order goes Virtus > ccbs/royal/zaryte > cstaff > others, and Ascension thrown in there somewhere (better than Virtus?). Unless it's possible/semi-effective to use Ahrim's wand/book, I think I'll personally stick with ranging. OP doesn't have wand either. If you come to events, it makes it easier to lure you in :p Most bossing trips aren't scheduled, but next month we've got 1 scheduled boss a week. Anyone's welcome to guest in. We don't bite...much.

Sara is weak to nothing. Hasn't been for a while now. Don't use blood spells unless you want to die. Her stats go through the roof. She will wipe you out. Arma is easier to range than Mage, due to Armor strengths. Assuming all t80 weapons, I could see it as a tossup for bandos whether to Mage or melee, but once you have drygores, that's the way to go. Even with drygores, I'd say Sara depends on your armor. I do it in a tetsu/torva mix, used to do it in full t850 defense Gear. You might be better off maging to start, or bring both and give melee a shot, switching to your Mage gear if you're getting hit/eating too much to heal properly. *insert shameless plug* if you're not in a clan, maybe I could interest you in mine? We're a little lacking in higher level bossers, but we've also got quite a few who are at the group level, and they'd love to go up with you if you want to get back into things slowly before giving solos a shot. We also do a few events a week. Cc is open, my FC is open, and PM is always on. Link in my signature if you're interested. Also, I'm running the Sara event for tip. It tomorrow, so feel free to swing by :)

Except merchants won't touch some of it with a 10 foot pole because of how bad they are. gwd shields? A single shard is almost as much as the item itself. Drygores? Yeah....no

There are 60 Shard-ed items. There should be 7 more, but I won't get into that.... (just realized Bandos warshield isn't included, either) The last column is for things like spirit shield prices and also the going prices for seismics. And before you go "oh, well, they made all the prices the same for items of the same type".....look at Torva. NO gwd shield is (or probably even was) as much as the shard price suggests. As for spirit shields, Spectral is much more common a drop than the others. The main draw for this should be the shard %....not many are even remotely close to 100% value. Spoiler just so I don't clog up the page too much. Edit: .....table disappeared when i posted :wall: Edit2: Went with pictures instead

When they never set a proper pricing (especially if something is based off of existing things or idiotic like offhand ascension...) and takes months to catch up (or simply never does), then it IS a huge deal. And if you're going to mention overpriced, wand is still cheaper than the 120m+ virtus robe top/bottom, according to Jagex. 504m drygores....are we back on release day? Sara hilt shard is 4,166...which is ~500k. Saradomin sword is ~191k/shard (23m). When there's such stupidity as this, I think we're allowed to make a big deal about it. If guide prices are SO far off, it's going to be ages before they're ever remotely close to matching prices.

Boots and gloves for Bandos/Arma/Sub aren't listed? O_o Vwand shard is less than V robe top shard....yeah, they really could have put a pinch of effort into the starting ge prices. I know their value is going to be 1/120 regardless, but seriously, wtf.

Saradomin Slaughter Zilyana (Saradomin) GWD Coinshare Time and Date Date: November 30th Time: 1pm EST Other Time Zones: 6 pm GMT1 pm EDT12 pm CDT11 am MDT10 am PDT5 am AUS (on the 11th) I expect to be here for several hours (I take supplies for 4 hours), so don't worry if you can't be there right at the start :) Friends Chat: Levells [pending]tur_1385834400[/pending] Server and Location Server will be announced nearer to the time of event. - Meet outside Saradomin GWD boss door (get kill count before the start of event to be ready to enter). The Boss Saradomin GWD. Coinshare will be active. The best spot to get kill count is by killing any Saradomin follower, such as Mages, Warriors, Knights, and Priests in the main area near the entrance. Alternately you can enter the Saradomin encampment and get KC there. Note that any monsters attacked will target you (unlike before the EoC when they would stay in combat with any NPC's they were attacking). For this reason you may need some food/prayer while getting KC. Please note that if you die during the events TMHT members will bless your grave, but we cannot accept responsibilty for any items lost. Please do not take any items that you are not willing to lose! Inventory & Equipment As she no longer has a specific weakness, feel free to hack at her with your favorite style! Requirements 60 Agility or Strength is required to access the God Wars Dungeon. 70 Agility is required to enter the Saradomin Encampment. 40 kill count is needed to enter the Boss room. Saradomin item (Optional: and Zamorak) while getting kill count Tactics A Saradomin item is ESSENTIAL whilst getting kill count in the Saradomin area! A Zamorak item is also recommended for complete safety in the area. She attacks with Melee and Magic, both of which can hit very hard and very fast. Her magic attack will hit everyone in the room. Use soulsplit if you have it. Otherwise, use whatever protection prayer will help most with your style of combat (for instance, if you are maging you have good defence against melee but are weak to ranged, so use protect ranged). Use regenerate/rejuvenate to funnel your adrenaline into your health after the kill. If maging, please do not use blood spells, as she will now be enraged and grow stronger. Friend Chat Ranks The Main host will be the Chat owner, or will have a Gold Star in the chat. Silver stars are CO HOSTS. Bronze Stars are other TMHT members. Please note all three of these ranks will have the ability to kick members from chats, should we need to. If you need assistance, feel free to Private message a Host/Co-host, or ask in the chat. All leaders are happy to help you with gear choices and inventory setups, should you be unsure of what to bring. Hope to see you all there!

Haven't made it to the computer yet, but anyone see a mod post yet about if they did what they said they'd try? Such as removing all the troll splits and adding the untradeable stuff like effigies/clues/etc?

1/128 for any non-hilt drop, for all gwd bosses.

Pretty sure they fixed the magic glitch a little bit ago. Think Ambler posted a pic on Q's blog with someone testing it again. And it doesn't provide runes for everything. I think the demon from family crest? Not sure, I just remember my gf having to sit and slowly die, since she couldn't do anything to it. Unless they patched it in the last month or so, which is possible. I remember seeing a lot of dom tower things in patch notes, just kind of glanced over them.

Here's a thought... Make a new thread and carry on this "discussion" there. Or just drop it. It seems to have turned into insults, anyway. I read this for November discussion, not how broken people's ego/idea of what rs should be.

Assuming the countdown is the correct time, the times you have listed aren't the right ones. Just noticed when I wondered why your fc was so empty, lol.

If anyone forgets a wizard hat, just smack some imps :p I should be there :)

I used about half of my (superior) scrim up. Lots and lots of gems and plenty of implings, but unless you get lucky, most impling drops are near worthless. Added to the fact that pop thread said ~100k a few days (or 2 weeks?) ago and I talked to people saying they put in an offer for 1m and it wasn't buying...

Elder logs are a firemaking daily. My gf just got it. Possible they're a fletching daily as well? Suppose it'll give incentive for someone to cut, at least.

Are you only getting energy from collecting (only applies to your highest spot) or are you actively converting to energy? Any energy/hour figures for either? I've just been wondering if it would work out better to gather them myself or make money to buy the rest. I'm still relatively low level, so I presume it won't cost as much as my current estimates (~240m) if I use option 2 throughout, just not sure how big of a difference.

In regards to Balmung, drygores > enhanced balmung ~= chaotics > lvl 75 > lvl 70 > balmung That's the conclusion I came to from reading wiki. Balmung has slightly higher autoattack damage but lower ability damage, so it's a tossup w/ maul. Especially for sustained/solo trips, I doubt it would really be enough.

http://puu.sh/4IlpX.png drag dag >_> http://puu.sh/4In9K.png hatchet http://puu.sh/4Iohd.png archer's ring http://puu.sh/4IoMj.png hatchet #2 http://puu.sh/4Irns.png warrior ring Event over, thanks for coming :)

.....you do realize this hasn't even been released yet, right? Kinda hard to know the "best way" >_> We don't know in what quantities it drops, how much we need, etc. All we can do is guess, since they gave us a range of monsters. Not exactly much to go on.