lol???? there is no flaming... in my mind you just said "death to all autoers" its the same exact thing as autoers and scammers dying. ss is against the rules and its just as bad as scamming and autoing, death to ss. :thumbsup: EDIT: everyone complaining is a rule breaker basically... if all autoers get banned tomorrow and scammers quit runescape the next day, do you expect to comeon tip.it and complain?? oh no what will we do without the autoers. stop complaining, its for the best. Grow a pair and get off your knees IMO. Jagex doesn't need to baby us, they should simply make it clear to all users that it's not Jagex's problem if you download too much [cabbage] and get a trojan. It's not fair to the mature people (the few that are left) that we are restricted as to what to use. Yes, I used SS. It is a great client with many handy tools, not to mention IRC built into the interface.