Player A: Makes absurd statements. Player B: Refutes said statements. Player A: "lol nerd" Remember when we could have legitimate discussions? I do, but everyone seems to be in a flaming mood. not that i should be surprised. I came here to have a legit discussion, and so for the only one who has done that is qeltar. Also, I have yet to call anyone names. Seems like you only are counting people who agree with you. :roll: Oh and you called Omali an attention-seeker. The main problem with dungeoneering is that it fell short of expectations. Causes: Jagex informs players ahead of time of future updates, building hype. Jagex hurries updates and cuts short testing to fulfill its one-update-a-week promise/goal. The game would be better off if "weekly updates" was not a promise and Jagex only released updates when they were ready and thoroughly tested (obviously dungeoneering was not, c.f. reward prices). Also Jagex could consider reducing the emphasis they place on future updates, even though this may hurt subscriptions; this could be replaced by additional hype at the time of release through advertisements or other methods.