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also it is different from the rc abyss in that the fairy abyss is not a multicombat area.

I have a guide in my siggy, you might wanna check it out. Also the Tip's barrows guide has safe spots too. Basically what you do is you kill ahrim and karil in their crypts, and quickly find the tunnel. use the tunnel rocks/ladder to block the melee brothers so you can mage them without taking hits. However the trouble is Karil, he is very accurate and requires a very high combat level to kill him efficiently with melee without prayer (forget about maging him, you wont hit him as well as he can hit you). Ahrim would also be a very major pain because he hits rather well and high even through karil's top and bottom (which has higher magic def than black d hide)

You can do barrows, but unless you get something worth over 1m every 10 trips, you will lose money. Get your Range up to at least 50, otherwise ahrim is going to be pain. You are right, darts is good, but: 1. It is only efficient if your mage is higher than 70 (so the max damage of the darts is 17), otherwise, stick to Fire Bolt and Chaos Guantlets (Strike spells are too slow, Blast and Wave spells are waste of money) 2. Ahrim is a mage, he would naturally have the highest Mage defence (because mage level counts towards mage def as well), you will be there for ages trying to kill him with mage, you definitely need ranged Other suggestions: 1. Def as high as possible 2. Prayer as high as possible

1. Unless you safe spot all the melee brothers, and have a very high level def (in the 90's preferably), it would be very very difficult, if not impossible 2. Depends on what spell you are gonna use, but my suggestion is, and this applies to defence equally well : The higher, the better.

Doing Slayer missions? Lunar, Nothing requires my modern mage (if it does, it gets burthorped) Castlewars? Ancients Player Killing? Modern backed with an ancient (if I were to PK, i hate it with a passion) Barrowing? Modern. Cant be done with others for me (lunar dont work very well, cant attack with them is a slight problem. Ancients are too expensive) Kalphite or King Black Dragon killing? KQ doesnt matter, i use House Tabs. KBD Lunar mage all the way, its the only spell that helps Staking? Ancients probably Every day use? Lunar, then Modern. I only use Modern for High Alching (not even teleports, i have a portal for all of them)

If you want a Genuine Opinion from me: There is no 'minimum level' which you can kill ahrim with (hell i'd try with level 1 ranged :P), but like anything in barrows, the Higher, the Better. That applies for Defence, HP, ranged, Mage and prayer. The reason for Higher ranged is that the D Hides are stronger at higher levels not only at ranged bonus but also at mage defence, making you kill ahrim quicker and have less need for food and/or p pots, which works hand in hand. I tried it with lv 60's ranged on Ahrim, it kills pretty fast, so i would say 50's when using rune arrows would be ok too. Now... do a few runs normally, and if you find you have many prayer points left over after killing Ahrim, you could consider Switching on your Hawk Eye/ Eagle eye prayers, your prayer wold drain a bit fast though. Oh, and if you can afford it, ranging pots are good too.

Ivandis could very well be just another vampyre, because Vyrewatch are immune to Rod's effect, so its either that Vyrewatch was a new species of Vampyres (which i doubt), or perhaps Ivandis was using the rods to control the lesser vampyres to form an army. If Rod of Ivandis was really a weapon to destroy Vampyres, it would have the power to destroy with the special attack of the rod, but not control it (Saradomists would NEVER consider controlling anything none-saradomin, they prefer to destroy it). Either that, or the Rod of Ivandis was NOT supposed to be Silvthril Alloy, but some other alloy that forms a far more powerful version of the Rod, which perhaps has even the capability to Control the Vampyre lords themselve. I would suspect that Daelyte Ore plays a part in the contruction of the material of the rod, a silver bar (perhaps blessed with holy powers), daelyte ore, Ruby , enchanted by lv 3 enchant and Finished with Blood Altar blessing.

I tried that before, i dont recommend it unless you have over 80 attack, super attacked AND you dont melee Karil the Ranger. His Melee Defence is actually quite high, compared with ranged def anyway. Mage Prayer, Eagle Eye and Karil Crossbow kills in 15 bolts max. Thats 30 seconds. I tried whipping Ahrim before (and only whip, ran outta dds specs), took 1 minute. Your choice really, but Ranged has potential to kill quicker.

The higher the better. 70 is the most recommended so that you kill hin quick. At low levels, its ALWAYS rune arrows, at higher levels, you might be able to use Broad arrows/Addy arrows as substitutes. Again the Higher the Better.

It is entirely your preference as to how often you loot your kingdom, but i know for certain that the longer you leave the kingdom for, the more bonus you get because there are more overlaps of bonus interval ammounts. Again thats entirely your preference, as long as you make sure you have more than 750k at all times and keep topping up your popularity, you are fine

Retire in peace my fren, the title of Barrows God has already been handed down to me, dont worry, i'll take good care of everyone down there (and some of the stray death piles too :P) have fun in f2p!

you need a set construction level to actually buy a study, you cant buy it off from streets. If construction is too expensive and/or too much hassle, either borrow another person's house (bring your own soft clay and runes) or buy the tabs.

Sorry, i had a calculation error, he charges every 12 trips. If you ask butler to unnote the logs and plank them, he charges every 120 planks, so it could cost 500k on top of the plank costs (which is 3m for 12k planks) If you plank them yourself, and ask butler to unnote them for you, half the butler costs, it becomes 250k.

You can make all types of Teleport Tablets that Normal Magic has except Trollheim and Ape Atoll Teleport. The different teleports need different lecturns but your main Concern is any 'eagle' lecturn (NOT a Demon lecturn, VERY big difference). For Lumbridge you need an Eagle Lecturn (made from oak, which is built in study), requires 47 con (44 if you use crystal saw, 42 if you use Butler to make you a +2 con tea. +3 con will not be possible at your level.) If you want more details, use tip it's construction tables and check study

the quicker one is asking your Butler to unnote logs and plank them hands down, he charges every 240 planks, so 12k would have him charge 50 times, 250k beside planking. If you plank the logs yourself, cut the cost down by 1/2, but you need to double your time dedicated to construction.

seer's ring not too sure fury is around 4.7m

You need to use Fungicide on the fungi in lost city (while with fingicide and fungicide spray in inv), then kill them normally, i think. I never fought them so i wouldnt know any more details. But they are certainly in Zanaris.

My character will lead the Women's Elite Squad of the army, outfit would be Tyras Helm Steel Plate Body/Chain body (Chain Body if archer) Steel PLate Skirt!!! Legends cape (if possible, otherwise Saradomin cape) Steel Boots Steel RFD gloves Weapons a mix of: Yew Long bow Steel Scimitar with Square Shield Steel Halberds Steel Longswords/[] Oh yeah we will tear through the khazard troops like not tomorrow and they will know what fear truly is :twisted:

They indeed are, hence the big hype about them.

1. To make the tablet you need to have 1 soft clay and 1 set of Runes required for the teleport spell (staves can be used) 2. You can only make them in your house, and the Lecturn dictates what tablets you can make. 3. they are 1k ea as standard price.

If you consider the average to be one item in twenty runs then the probability of going 350 runs without an item is about 1 in 3.6 million. :) Back to the original question, I haven't done any barrowing just yet but this thread sure is making me think twice about it :) Thinking Twice? For long term money making maybe, but you should always try all minigames see if you like them (whisper in ear : you havent played Trouble brewing yet chen!). After all, you play the game to play right? I enjoy barrows so much that I can stay there for weeks (even tolerating the walk from Ecto to Barrows). Try it. And once you get good at it, you are guarenteed to make money every trip, even if it is just runes.

nice idea about the silver bolts, i really wanna see some of my 13k silver bolts actually put to good use. About the altar in space or something, i dont think it actuallt matter where the altar is positioned, because most likely people will get in through the abyss anyway, because it is most likely 10 minute stroll to the altar.

Lately my barrow runs seem extremely strange. If i dont get 3 itens in 10 runs, i get nothing for at least 30 :-s

archive of wisdom has also some excellent guides on barrows.

1. Drain is every 15 seconds or so, its roughly equal to 5 spell casts per drain. And yes it is 8 + (number of brothers killed this run) per intervals. 2. For speed, Melee to increase Kill Count is the best, mage is slow and bit wasteful 3. If your prayer level is low, then i would suggest it. Otherwise (60+), no. I have never personally used Holy wrench myself unfortunately because it didnt really matter to me. Try it first for a few runs, then run another few and see if they make a difference.