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No... It is true that the general can switch to a familiar, but honestly it happens so rarely that it's not worth the loss of efficieny to fear that. Bring a war tortoise and switch to a titan when you've expended its supplies. I personally suggest that you don't tank at all and let someone else do it, seems selfish, but you will always profit if you're not tanking. I personally don't go on bandos trips with random idiots off of rsof to make friends, it's about profits(well not so much profit anymore as finishing my drop list but same basic thing).

Glance at toast's guide in the AOW.

You could always check the ge every single hour to see if any change has occured, have fun with that :thumbsup: On second thought, I actually don't know if the ge prices update at evened hours, you might want to check every 5 minutes.

Soma's guide in the AOW has several passable setups included.

Bandos - 85+ melee stats Sara - 70 prayer, 52+summoning - 90+ melee stats if you melee - 85+ range, 80+defense if you range Arma - 85+ range, 80+ defense, 52+ summoning Zamorak - 85+ melee stats, 70+ pray

After seeing the rewards I am actually so disappointed that I'm not even going to waste my tiem doign this...honestly this diary is an insult and utterly useless. All of the other diaries(even falador and it's subpar prayer shield) had at least one thing that had soem positives, but this diary is completely useless. I'll just keep playing normally and maybe by the time that they make diaries trim quest capes(which may or may not happen) I'll have several of the tasks done unintentionally and possibly some of the requirements that I lack.

Pretty much what everyone else said, but make sure to read the reviews because some programs have useless fluff added in.

That's a very convincing argument if the rates are correct. The thing is that you gave me the difference between 80 attack/strength and 90 attack/strength as 2.5k per hour. That's 625 damage, which is about 6 dusties. I also noticed your later reduction of the increase in xp gain to 1k/hour(2.5 dusties) which is one of the biggest reasons that I'm wary of your numbers. I unfortunately did not record my experience gain rates at each level leading up to my current ones, so i have no solid data to go off of, but I seriously doubt that the difference between 20 levels of offense is 6 dust devils each hour. I've done almost all of my combat training through slayer since around 50 even melee stats when I got membership, and I distinctly a MUCH greater increase in speed than 6 kills per hour. What exactly are those values based on? Anyone can prove a point if they have the ability to generate statistics that fit their argument. Now If we were to get one person with 80/80 att/str and a person with 90/90 in the relevant stats, would have much more faith in the numbers that were returned. I will believe your max hit values though as tip.its calculator gives me a difference of 4 using *basic* slayer equipment(glory, d boots, slayer helm, defender, whip, etc...) and a difference of 3 when using the *higher leveled* items such as bandos top/bottom and a fury. Sadly I personally don't know of a way to account for attack level accuracy at all...

Any rough cost estimates? I only need 465ishk xp, so broad arrows sound nice.

Ok, I personally despise fletchign as a skill and loathe trainign it. So what would be the absolute fastest method to train from 77 to 80? Is it buying yew logs+strings and then cutting and stringing, or buying logs and just cutting, or buying unstrungs and strings and just stringing? Also, how long do sc knives last? I have a LOT of points, so game time is not an issue.

You posted again before I finished my edit... Not meaning to hijack your thread, but I've seen this statement repeated in various forms over and over. can someone PLEASE explain to me how this is true? Let's take the levels of 80 to 90 in consideration, not even going as far as to max out... The rate at which you gain experience is entirely dependent on the damge that you deal, correct? Also, damage dealt is affected by your attack and strength levels with no direct input from defense, correct? If the two previous statements are indeed correct, then how is it possible that you would get the expereince from 80 to 90 in all 3 melee skills faster while training controlled than you would if you were to train attack and strength to 90 initially with a whip and sara sword using their respective focused options? Using the focused methods seperately, you would reach your maximum potential to recieve experience(90 attack and strength) faster than you would reach your maximum potential with controlled training(and then you would not be trainign at maximum speed at all what with already being done). If you train in the order of attack, then strength, and then defense. Then the time that it took to finish your defense trainign would be shorter than the time which it took to finish your strength trainign which in turn would be shorter than the time which it took to finish your attack trainign because with focused training each step aids the next. Based on all that stuff tha I just spewed, I see no way that a whip on controlled is faster than a whip on focused attack, sara sword on focused strength, and then whip again on focused defense. The lower rate of experience gain from the lack of a defender is not great enough to cause enough of a slow down, and since you trained attack already, you have 10 more levels to make up for that loss of 20 accuracy bonus. Also, I'd assume that someone with 90 attack and strength using a dragon scimitar would deal damage much more quickly than someone with 80 attack and strength using a whip, do to the fact that I think that levels carry far more weight than equipment bonuses. That statement however, has no proof or evidence whatsoever and is merely my opinion. So please, please explain to me how

The huge pray bonus(8 if I remember correctly) is a nice boost at fiends, but I personally preferr speed. The speed that you used potions may have mislead you. Anyways on to the interesting bit... SS's and spears don't have the same stats, just the same speed. Spears have higher crush accuracy, which leads them to being slightly better for fiends. Sara swords have a higher strength bonus if I remember correctly, which leads to their inferiority being negligible. Focused training with a whip for atack, sara sword for strength, and then whip for defense IS faster than training via controlled all the way. I don't really think that you're overly invested in controlled training from your post, btu I like whipping out the quote that I'll go find in a bit whenever I can... EDIT: Just need to blow off a bit of the dust... EDIT:: Large quote thing relocated

What did he say that was so offensive? And I am sure when he says Zamorak sword everyone knows what he is talking about. I think we can all be a little more curteous to new members so that we dont scare them away. To answer the original question, waterfiends are weak to crush attacks so the Zamorak Godsword should work but you may wish to use something faster like Saradomin Godsword or Zamorak Spear. i hope you mean saradomin sword because saradomin gs is same speed Woops yes sorry thats exactly what I meant. Although from experience I've found SGS much more effective in the long run than both. SGS is for specs only at fiends. What ended up happening for me was I just used SGS the entire time and there was no noticeable difference in kill rate. You can't notice somethign that you intentionally avoid noticing. Go time 20 kills with a sara sword, 20 with a zam spear, and 20 with a sgs. I have all three and I've personally done this. You'll notice that the spear and sword are noticeable ahead, and that the spear is slightly ahead of the sword, but not enough to sacrifice focused training. Make sure that you aren't using any super pots during the tests so that your attack and strength variance doesn't skew the results.

What did he say that was so offensive? And I am sure when he says Zamorak sword everyone knows what he is talking about. I think we can all be a little more curteous to new members so that we dont scare them away. To answer the original question, waterfiends are weak to crush attacks so the Zamorak Godsword should work but you may wish to use something faster like Saradomin Godsword or Zamorak Spear. i hope you mean saradomin sword because saradomin gs is same speed Woops yes sorry thats exactly what I meant. Although from experience I've found SGS much more effective in the long run than both. SGS is for specs only at fiends.

I think that flails might have a crushing accurate option, dragon maces probably do too. Guthan spears are defensive crush, think.

Super glass is the same as humidify. I set of runes/x points per inventory.

Castle wars, duel arena, Neitiznot, and the RFD chest are all of the one click banks, I think. Not counting deposit boxes.

Bright red rot on a green bone? :shock: I guess that I cans ee what you're saying for like fayrg and raurg bones...

Well that would make you use prayer points faster while restoring less often :o

The lunar string jewelry and bake pie spells are both 1.8 seconds per item if it matters.

Some people do that, but smart/cheap people like me take just enough super restores to cover the brews (1 rest/3 brews) and the rest is prayer potions. You do get 1 more point per dose with super rests, though.

I'm on a no 99 strike until the make quest capes trimmable, so they frikken better. No pixels no peace! etc, etc.

Can you use a butler for dungeon doors? Would sending him to get planks and then sprinting downstairs work?

Ourg bones are buried with the remains of the ourg. Slash bash drops ourg bones, some of the big bones that he would drop were wrapped in ancestral cloth making it an ourg bone. Slash bash drops zogre bones, the rest of the big bones but are now zogre bones because hes a zogre now not an ogre. Slash bash = ourg. Ourg = ogre. Slash bash examine txt - "A powerful looking Zogre" General Graardors examine txt - "A huge war chief" General is an ourg but it says war chief, just because it dosent say ourg dosent mean its not. He also has an ogre body says jagex so..... Also, He was carrying the artifact because he was GIVIN the artifact to protect. So nice to see someone so confident in unsubstantiated information :lol: You do know that there is no way to prove this either way other than a query to Jagex which I think they ended a while back or some random mod posting something. No need to get so worked up. There is no direct evidence to prove that you are correct.

Lol, and sara gets a zilyana/icyene. The f2p greater demon is stronger than both of them if I remember right.