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I think you may have missed the part where the dungeon will be a PvP zone, meaning it'll be a PKer hotspot. As far as item demand, it'll do just fine with free trade. Stat hammers are the best thing for corping, and VLS is going to see a spike in popularity as an extremely powerful one handed spec weapon for no armor staking.

It's worth noting that pre-trade restrictions stuff always instantly popped up as well. I don't think it's worth assuming that A) corp has a completely different drop system than anywhere else in the game and that wasn't mentioned in the FAQ, nor B) that it will work differently than it would have pre-trade restrictions. We could also assume that they're going to turn the corp caves into a randomly shifting maze that takes more than 5 minutes to navigate (after all, Jagex never said they WOULDN'T!), but if we start allowing any random speculation then the discussion stops being meaningful. From the information we have, instantly lootable corp deathpiles is by far the most likely possibility. You mean pre trade restrictions, stuff instantly showed up when someone died, right? Cause I am 100% sure that a dropped item didn't show up instantly. I guess we will see. Somehow, I think they will make corp an exception. Fishy: nobody will be stupid enough to stake a decent amount of money with you. I guess you'll have to settle with an ely or purple. If you DROPPED an item (right click drop), it didn't pop up for a minute. If you died to a monster, your death pile popped up instantly to everyone else; I saw this happen many times. '01 prod here.

It's worth noting that pre-trade restrictions stuff always instantly popped up as well. I don't think it's worth assuming that A) corp has a completely different drop system than anywhere else in the game and that wasn't mentioned in the FAQ, nor B) that it will work differently than it would have pre-trade restrictions. We could also assume that they're going to turn the corp caves into a randomly shifting maze that takes more than 5 minutes to navigate (after all, Jagex never said they WOULDN'T!), but if we start allowing any random speculation then the discussion stops being meaningful. From the information we have, instantly lootable corp deathpiles is by far the most likely possibility.

Rules for if you have a gravestone- after it goes away, everyone can get your stuff. Rules for if you have no gravestone- everyone gets your stuff immediately. Corp doesn't allow gravestones, and there don't seem to be provisions for ways to die and lose stuff but not for players to then take it. We pretty much have the new death mechanics laid out here.

I was discussing this with some people and thought of something- items dropped at corp will now be instantly lootable by teammates, meaning that the new teleport will have very little bearing on how safe your items are on death. Either your team is trustworthy and gives your stuff back, or they aren't and you lose it regardless of how fast you can leg it back to the corp lair. If anything, forum corp teams will become less popular now that you can't be guaranteed to get your stuff back unless you're with good friends. Most of the stuff people lose at corp on death are not tradeable anyways, though. Berserker Ring (i), Fire Cape / Ardougne Cloak 3, Void, etc. Karil's is the only major loss of a smart setup. My four items are spear, BGS, fury, and onyx (i); losing Karil's, d boots, nezzy, barrows gloves, and ardougne cloak. Out of those, all the major losses are tradable. Most people who don't have access to onyx/zerker (i) use plain zerker, also tradable.

I was discussing this with some people and thought of something- items dropped at corp will now be instantly lootable by teammates, meaning that the new teleport will have very little bearing on how safe your items are on death. Either your team is trustworthy and gives your stuff back, or they aren't and you lose it regardless of how fast you can leg it back to the corp lair. If anything, forum corp teams will become less popular now that you can't be guaranteed to get your stuff back unless you're with good friends.

All useful items and skills put to 99 only costs around 1b. So what to do with the rest? I'm pretty sure that just a divine and full torva, pernix, and virtus will run you more than 1b, to say nothing of 99 prayer, 99 summon, 99 ranged, 99 magic, 96 herblore, and other miscellaneous combat items. At least for a while I see interest shifting away from rares and toward the new armor. With interest in Nex waning and forum teams becoming untenable in the future (gravestones collapsing now means everyone gets to loot, which means no more blessing in random teams), the items are going to be quite rare and expensive. True, but the long term trend should still be down. I know, we got used to unbuyable divines and whatnot, but hopefully with free trade, when a new item comes out and it's good, it's obtainable if you have the money. Yes, but in the short term (few months at least), the prices on the armor will be absurdly high. There just isn't nearly enough coming into the game to supply all of the ultra-rich players who want it.

All useful items and skills put to 99 only costs around 1b. So what to do with the rest? I'm pretty sure that just a divine and full torva, pernix, and virtus will run you more than 1b, to say nothing of 99 prayer, 99 summon, 99 ranged, 99 magic, 96 herblore, and other miscellaneous combat items. At least for a while I see interest shifting away from rares and toward the new armor. With interest in Nex waning and forum teams becoming untenable in the future (gravestones collapsing now means everyone gets to loot, which means no more blessing in random teams), the items are going to be quite rare and expensive.

The thing is, though, you could have opened up your price margin by 10m+ simply by being patient for a day or two until greens crash. Look at purple. Look at yellow. There's a pattern here lol.

They also require multiple times as much prayer exp for the equivalent effect. They deserve to be better, because prayer keeps giving combat levels up to 99 but stops being useful at 70 on the old book.

Inb4 green crashes on Dan exactly the way I told him it would.

I'm pretty sure ourg is a subset of ogre, not goblin. As for Zilyana... I guess Icyenes are humanoid, but her species is definitely Icyene.

TDs, Frost dragons, Bandos solo/duo/trio, Arma solo, using fruit bat scrolls with summoning potions, farming torstol with juju pots (over 4.8m/hour but you can only spend about 5 minutes on it every 70 minute growth cycle), 6 man corp, pawya/grenwall hunting... TONS of things make over 1m/hour. Most of those things make in excess of 2.5m/hour average for an experienced player with optimal stats and gear.

...I don't really see how this is asking for help or giving advice, but okay.

Oops. To be fair, I know your name is Rocked, but my brain put rocket anyway because that is a word it knows and I wasn't paying enough attention to catch it.

All of the "spiritual" things seem to be ghosts, but the Zarosian things are pretty clearly not. They're mages, but not spirits.

It really is more likely to do that. I have never once seen a sigil go to the guy who was getting the most drops before the sigil, but elixers almost always go to the high LSP.

you speak be so disparagingly about other bosses than the top 3.... - Remember the biggest achievement in runescape is to have fun! And I can see why some people like other bosses more than others.. (IE: saradomin uses kiting mechanisms a lot, bandos advocates the use of roles, kalphite queen uses protection prayers)... There's no reason to call that "nooby"! Calling a boss nooby doesn't mean they're bad, just easy. He doesn't speak disparagingly about them, all he says is their drops are low valued (comparatively of course). He never said they weren't worth killing still (although bandos is one of the only ones still that is worth killing :P) Dagannoth kings seems pretty nooby to me now skill wise. It's easy for me, the drops are also very low value, they just have a high drop rate. They're still very much worth doing. He was just talking about how getting drops from Lootshare is so much different at bosses like Nex and Corp, then that of Bandos and Dagannoth kings. It isn't really that bad if someone snipes a bandos chest from you, you can make that up in less then a day with another drop. Missing a torva platebody is another story, that's some serious [cabbage] right there. Rather, I was saying that if the drops are low value (<100m), lootshare plays a larger role. If you have high LSP and go Bandos, you're pretty likely to get the armor and hilt drops. If you have high LSP and go corp, there's a damn good chance somebody with low LSP is going to come out of the woodwork and take your divine sigil as their first drop, because the sigils are so highly valued relative to anyone's lootshare potential. The higher an item's GE price, the more likely it is to be sniped by someone with low LSP, in other words. By nooby I was referring to the boss, not the players that fight him. Bandos is easy. REALLY easy. That doesn't mean that high level players with very good gear don't kill him often, but rather that the reason they bother is because he's so nooby that they can stay an absurdly long time and rake in the (relatively) low value drops. This compared to a boss like corp who is not nooby, but has extremely high value rare drops.

Here's what I would do: Sell yellow for max now. It doesn't have long before it crashes. Then, wait until the following happens with green: First, they will become slowly buyable at max (like wait 5 hours with a max offer and you get it). This will persist for maybe a day or two until the GE updates its price a lot. Rises in GE price always cause a drop in street price- since they were already very near max GE price before the update, they'll fall to below med and probably min. This would be a good time to buy a green. This is what happens every time an item with street reaches the GE- elysian did this to a tee. Edit: Rocket's definitely right that my strategy is in no way playing it safe, but honestly I really don't see partyhats recovering until well after free trade. There's 0 confidence amongst rare hoarders in anything below a white (and especially below a red), and lack of confidence spells doom for the market.

Not quite, but they're getting there.

Blue's been traded as well. If an item appears on the most valuable traded items list, that means that at some point since its last price update it has been traded. Looks like all the phats but white have been traded since their respective updates.

On the other hand, very valuable (over 100m) drops tend toward being sniped as long as nobody in your group is also over 100m lsp. I went to a clan Nex trip after having not been bossing for over a month, definitely 0 or near it lsp, lots of people there had 20m+, and I got Torva legs. I've also seen sigils do the same thing multiple times- one guy will be rolling with the high lsp getting all the drops and then some guy who hasn't got a single drop the entire trip gets the sigil. Just to point out that not boss hunting a lot does not put you out of the running for good drops unless you're somewhere nooby like Bandos where all the drops are low value anyway.

Are you perhaps mixing up retribution/wrath and smite? Smite is the one that drains the opponent's prayer. Ah, yes, i am. Either way though Soul splits ability to heal some of what you hit makes it a better choice than Smite's pure prayer drainage. Well, it depends on the situation. Say you've got a skulled one-itemer with claws in the middle of the wild and you're trying to tease him out with ice magic and prayer drainage to get the claws. At that point, the healing is completely useless because you're not taking damage, and augury + smite would be a much better option. If you're meleeing though, the extra damage from turmoil alone closes the gap between the prayer drain rates significantly and makes it easier to actually get the kill, so even though smite would be better than soul split (slightly), soul split + turmoil is still better than smite + piety.

You was someone? Lol lysdexics tfw <--been waiting forever to say that somewhere, sry ;) OT: Anyone think red will actually hit GE price? Friend is still trying to get one I think. Red updated yesterday at +4.8M -- not sure if that reflects any actual "GE" activity or not though. :unsure: Red has already been traded again since that update, and I wouldn't be surprised if there have been multiple successful snipes. Now that green is so close to crashing, everyone's looking to red as the next one in line. Might not hurt to get a max offer in and see if it's past sniping yet, but then again the entire bot sniping community is probably camping it too.

...wat