sadukar123

Best guess anyone can give is "Extremely damning rare, *OMGWTFBBQ YOU GOT ONE*".

You can't love cancer. There is no opinion. Oh, and nice affirming the consequent fallacy.

Really, isn't it obvious? Do I have to state it in large block letters for you? Well, I will. THE WHIP HAS ABOUT THE SAME STATS AS A SARADOMIN SWORD EVEN THOUGH IT IS ONE-HANDED. Prove to me that the dps of a whip+rune defender combo is not the highest then. Because it can train strength and it can use Crush attack, which is invaluable at Waterfiends. It doesn't compare on normal situations, but it has its uses. Add that with the fact that the whip is more common and you have the answer as to why the SS and ZS cost more. True, it can train strength, but some other weapons like Dragon Scimitar+defender are almost as effective as it in training strength. So, it costs more because it is rarer, but even though it is rarer, it is weaker?? What!! P.S. Don't tell me party hat is rarer but is rubbish in combat. BUDDY. You can't WIELD A WHIP. Therefore your opinion is INVALID. No one is going to LISTEN TO YOU. Stop humiliating yourself.

Why keep posting stuff no one will care to read, since you can't even WIELD A WHIP.

10% each day until you use it.

Wrong. The guy with 99 Strength can hold a Whip, which beats the average guy's 70 defenses. If it's 70 70 80 vs 70 99 1 then defense would be better.

finally some1 that proves me right(well not totally but ur the only1 that really accepts that 1/10k is way to high) @laura: i know it impossible of getting exact numbers for the drop rates, only jagex will have those and i dont think theyll give them 2 us... but what im (we are) doing here is discussing about guesses we make while we kept in regard the prices(read randomness) and the amount you will have to kill to be (almost) 100% sure to get a visage. Since that amount is ~3000 (when using 1/500 drop rate) i found this an acceptable drop rate. There will always be pll who disagree and my numbers wont ever be totally right, but since the OP asked what the drop rate might be, i tried to give him a number which will probably be close to the real answer. Actually Unkn hasn't all he did was prove the Lottery Fallacy.

it seems hard since you still dont want to understand it... anyway comp doesnt have to explain ty, got enough maths to be good enough in it... also, after 200 kills (with a chance rate of 1/200) you got 64% chance of getting a visage (which is very high it seems so i will apologise to every1 for my wrong guess of 1/150, it will more likely be 1/500 or 1/600) You better start changing those numbers to 1/10000 or prove it with REAL numbers, or compfreak with prove you wrong AND humiliate you.

Really, isn't it obvious? Do I have to state it in large block letters for you? Well, I will. THE WHIP HAS ABOUT THE SAME STATS AS A SARADOMIN SWORD EVEN THOUGH IT IS ONE-HANDED. Prove to me that the dps of a whip+rune defender combo is not the highest then. Whoope. It has highest dps on a monster. That is SOOOO OVERPOWERED NERF NERF NERF. You have what? 63 Attack? Good luck wielding a Whip. /Thread.

Can you seriously stop posting? You have no idea what you are talking about. Why should I? You have no proof I don't know what I'm talking about and it seems more like you don't know what you're talking about. noob. P.S. Will you shut up? viewtopic.php?f=37&t=784670 :roll: Mage is underpowered when you are level 50 Mage F2P. :roll: Whip is overpowered when you have level 63 Attack F2P. :roll:

The RC community in F2P is really small, not many F2Pers concentrate on a slow skill when everything is already 50% slower or more than P2P, I think what might help is making the percentage of success 100%, and the necklace of binding would give you a 25% chance of giving 2x Combo runes. Oh, and I want the Smoke/Dust/Mist staves.

Can you seriously stop posting? You have no idea what you are talking about.

Shhh... he's new, and all the older members refuse to argue with me. Don't discourage him, I haven't had a good debate in days :thumbsup: Note to milky: if you plan to end this argument by flaming me for being a no life\nerd\geek\dork\whatever, forget about it. It's what usually happens, and I'm none of the above - I'm happily married with kids, with a good job (computer consultant) with flexible hours that lets me play RS to pass the time at work. Just getting this out of the way so we can get down to arguing \ You are a loser no life. :mrgreen: I win teh arguument from ad hominem lulz. 8-)

Really. There is only 1 set of armour in any combat method that anyone uses. Those are Rune, D'hide, and RC robes. So much for that.

Every time I try to decant after a Slayer trip, I teleport to Cabbage patch and go to Draynor, if I have a bunyip out it will almost always teleport next to me and make me misclick, then waste a dose of whatever I was clicking on.

Level 3 with that high hp... :roll:

Erm. Dagannoth in Chaos tunnels?

What sounds fishy? The fact that you can't wait 3 days to get access to a bank.. why can't you just do something else and start training efficiently when you do have a bank? Who cares. He got 3 days to do SOMETHING efficient on Runescape.

._. Dragon chain drop rate is about 1/20000.

Dragon mace>Granite Mace.

Range owns in F2P. With rune+scimitar, I can barely kill a level 86 without taking heavy damage. With Range I can kill him in matter of seconds. Off topic: Why complain about whip if you are f2p?

I really wouldn't mind if I get into an Abyssal Demon and Nechryael loop. lol.

14 Pineapple pizzas=7k gp+having to check in often. 1 Bunyip=2k gp+almost afkable. Clear choice no?

And you could of made millions more just doing your standard making money task. Having a chance at making millions with a couple minutes work sounds good to me. 8-) Average level 3 clue time is 30-45 minutes, and basically 80-90% of clues are worth less then 100k. They take less than 15 minutes if you know where to go. That is not including, looking it up, getting the stuff, fighting the mage, and clues with puzzle boxes. PS: Explain that 85% of clues are worth less then 100k? Who said you look it up. You memorize it. Mage isn't hard with whip+prayer, Zamorak mage=3 hit, Saradomin=5 hit. Stuff=10 second tops. Puzzle boxes are insanely easy if you mastered it, or really have any logical skills. Oh by the way, read my post. "CHANCE"

And you could of made millions more just doing your standard making money task. Having a chance at making millions with a couple minutes work sounds good to me. 8-) Average level 3 clue time is 30-45 minutes, and basically 80-90% of clues are worth less then 100k. They take less than 15 minutes if you know where to go.