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Jagex cooperating with "the largest Runescape cheating community"? This is very confusing!

Hell, if I had my own game, I'd release malicious bots for my own game on the side just to rub it in the faces of the people who use them. You wouldn't even have to "catch" them, all you have to do is keep metaphorically slapping them in the face for their own stupidity every 3 months or so. The best part is that you could pretty much do this over and over without anybody actually catching on because people who bot using programs that they don't understand are exactly the kind of people who continue to fall for the same trick.

Surgical precision! Pew pew! You may continue with your discussion.

Ah, the long con. One of my most favorite cons! Not to mention it was the coupled with the "make thousands of suckers do additional work for you" con. That is another of my favorite cons!

You must have some kind of intense cloud phobia because at no point in anybody's life has a cloud jumped in front of them and then, say, threatened them with a knife for their wallet. On the not joking side, perhaps you do not understand how a skybox works. Because it is just one big flat texture, there will not be any actual clouds. It will just be the image of a cloud pasted on the "ceiling" and you will most likely not be able to move the camera's perspective outside of this area, so there's no chance of your vision being blocked at all. Should you continue to harbor said feelings towards the heavens, I am pretty sure they will let you toggle them on and off. Sidenote: didn't they say something about safe mode being slower than the other modes?

This conversation is becoming more ironic by every post. Seriously, just fish naked if you're going f2p. Anything above that is outside the maturity range.

Wait, so basically staking was like flipping a coin? Why do people find that so exciting?

Won't the revenants attack them too?

Well if they want that they can go to the dungeon like everybody else It's just that it'll end up being devalued what with revenants losing their freezing powers and such

I'm looking forward to years of no whining about free trade and wilderness, but that's just too good to be true

I vaguely remember your avatar.

I don't really see why they would change it, considering it's been the same all these years with or without the PK involved ever since they introduced the restrictions.

'course, that'd never happen here because of the alchemy ceiling. Or rather, floor.

I personally hope that people will get exactly what they asked for. :twisted:

Uh. People just sell their raws at the GE anyway. Course with all the strange price fluctuations lately we might be barely lucky enough to see cooked and raw prices scrape past each other. But that was just a crazy time when it happened before, I'm not sure if it'll happen again...

Oh, right, Cataclysm. What you're describing is the overall trend which has been coming for a while....since a lot of foreign MMOs have been pouring into the international market for years, it was inevitable that some of them would have reached professional quality and take market share away from the "big players". Others saw that the subscription model would lose to the "free" model because the subscription model required a player's commitment up front when they weren't guaranteed any measure of quality or enjoyment, and that they would be unable to return or resell the item in the case of disappointment (which is funny because you wouldn't be able to return an opened game anyway). Meanwhile, the free game lures prospective clients in and can clamp down hard on somebody's wallet if they've gone far enough. World of Warcraft will probably be able to stick to their guns because they're on top (although polishing the guns doesn't hurt), but others will have to adapt. But I digress. Overall this isn't really a massive change, at least, not on the scale of other games. In fact, it's probably the opposite of change. We're taking one big step backwards. Jagex doesn't offer much more than their small promise that things will be different, and is probably not going to hold themselves to it for longer than a month if it doesn't work out. The fact is that they're trying to make things the same anyway, so while their goals might not be mutually exclusive, it's going to take quite an effort to wrench them towards one direction. But considering that many claim that their best experiences were found when the game had less features in it, it's probably the best move for them. Ultimately, the cradle will make the most fitting and convenient grave.

When you mentioned a high profile MMO being reforged, were you referring to Maplestory? :lol: If Jagex had been planning ahead to make the botting pointless in the first place, this would have never been an issue, but since nobody really wants to change, they'll just be the prey of automation like everything else from the 90's. This is pretty much their last chance to prove that they've been actually holding some good cards in their hand all along, instead of bluffing with duds. Otherwise I'll just treat this like any other game though: play it until it becomes pointless and not fun anymore. Because that's all the treatment it ever gets anyway.

Now that I think about it, it's way easier to appear to be incompetent and do mind numbingly stupid things on a regular basis to lower people's expectations than it is to run their particular business model smoothly on its own merits. If they ever did anything "right", people might start getting ideas.

Well, they'd have to write a book or something if they wanted to include every detail.

It'll be easier to smack around a bunch of drones than dragons, but if they're all set to autolog and are part of the same group, then they'll probably scatter as soon as you attack one of them. Just like pigeons. :P

Why would they move? It didn't seem like they cared much before.

If the potions would be going too far, why are all the other factors allowing somebody to one shot somebody else still acceptable?

Wrong argument, because prayer is included in your combat level.

By the way, you need 71 Firemaking 70 Construction 70 Crafting 70 Smithing for Korasi's sword.

I think the two are inexorably linked together, due to the fact that if they only brought old wilderness back but not free trade, people would use that to break trade limits instead of the GE, and if they brought back free trade but not the old wilderness, that would be kind of pointless because eliminating the old wilderness came with eliminating free trade. The PKers would be whining for years if they didn't get back their wilderness when free trade returned. I'm pretty sure Jagex will not be able to handle the bots, but since when at any point in history was Jagex able to handle them? Scams will return in a small part, but most people will not trade outside of the GE unless it's a big ticket item, and if they get tricked during such an important transaction, it's really more of their lack of experience at fault than it is the system. And if you get lured into the wilderness, you're just plain stupid and never read any warnings. Since gravestones are sticking around, there's no other area in the game where your items will be raided by somebody else. Either way, I really don't care.