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Alching is fail. Tons of better options, here, look into diamond bolt enchanting. Twice the xp at less than half the cost. Other others are superglassmake, plankmake, string jewelry, and rock lobs, all of which blow alching out of the water.

Sara Brews are the only potion to restore hp, other than Barbarian mixes.

I think Jagex stated that multiple unit selection was too much for their game programming to handle. Same with chatting in the games outside of quick chat. I'm not sure about starting more than 1 game at once from the waiting room, but I'd imagine it's the same story.

slayer is probably one of the most profitable moneymakers in the game. what do you call all the drops you get on slayer tasks, and reward points. you might want to rethink your slayer needs to be profitable comment And do you have proof? The best (by highest average profit) slayer moneymaker are Spiritual Mages. And they don't make very much at all. I can easily list 10 methods that can make more money/hour. 1. Aviansies 2. Green Dragons 3. Sara GWD 4. DKS 5. TDz 6. 26k 7. Double nats 8. Double astrals 9. Making certain summoning scrolls (eg, Healing Aura, which makes 1m/hour as someone calculated before) 10. Rune mining 11. Flesh Crawlers (there's an extra bonus one in case you think one of the above "doesn't count" for whatever reason) I can add even more to the list if you want to take into account the worth of xp gained. Still think it's one of the best moneymakers? Ok, it's a decent moneymaker. It's respectable. But it's nowhere near good. And it's nowhere near good enough for the effort required to get 83 slayer. You can't browse other sites while slaying, or at least not effective enough. Sure you can talk and such. But you want "easy" moneymakers? Here's a list. All of them are easier or the same difficulty as abby demons. 1. Rune mining (only 15-30 seconds of attention are needed every 1-2 minutes, if done right, which isn't very hard) 2. Aviansies 3. Green Dragons 4. 26k (or at least the EP part of it) 5. Flesh Crawlers 6. Double Astrals (debatable, but fact remains that there's plenty of time to talk with other players.) 7. Merchant armor/cannon sets 8. Farming herbs 9. MTK 10. Star mining Your second paragraph is a little vague. "i average around 1 whip a day and many other items which accounts for 3m? which isn't so bad" Saying "a day" tells me nothing. I can gain 3m strength xp per day. Is that 125k xp per hour over 24 hours? Or is it 187k xp per hour over 16 hours? Or is that 1.5m xp per hour for 2 hours? It means nothing. If you told me the exact number of hours/minutes you spend killing Abyssals, including banking and other diversions such as world hopping, then we'd be getting somewhere. If you killed Abyssals for 6 hours, you'd get 500k per hour, which is decent, but not good. With the GWD comment, I can't say much since I was never a GWD'er. However, from sources that I read, Sara GWD is 1m per hour trio'd. TDz (solo!) yields ~15 kills per hour. The claw drop rate is 1/200. In 14 hours you'll have d claws, worth 33m. That means you made 2.3m per hour. That doesn't include getting armor lumps. And the costs? Not enough to make a sizeable dent in that 2.3m, and plus you'd have to consider the normal drops and lumps covering a portion of the costs. Sure it isn't "easy money", but I gave you 10 other ways to make "easy money" and get just as much, if not more, money than Slayer.

Slayer is quite profitable. Really? What's the max you can make? 500k an hour with Spiritual Mages? You spend all your time getting to 83 slayer, and you could've killed Green Dragons and made that much money/hour. Abyssal demons are even worse, from what I hear, and no other monster comes close. Plus, by the time you're 83 slayer, you have the combat stats to make over 1m per hour boss hunting. So sure it's profitable, but not for what it's worth. If you're looking for profit, slayer might be good, but if you're seriously looking for cash, slayer isn't the way to go. EDIT: What monster before 83 makes a lot of money? Ab specs? Warped Terrorbirds? Cave Slimes? All of them are beat by other combat methods of making money. [/hide] i don't agree with your attitude about slayer. 83 can make you more money than green dragons. plus, it takes time to look for a decent spot to hunt them, you have constant trips between banks AND avoid renevants. abyssal demons are the same as spiritual mages except you can make potentially more money through other drops like rune chains and pure ess. monster hunting is only good when you have a functional clan but its too much hassle to look for a decent group, an empty world, and the supplies you need each trip. the high risk of death is also a problem which is why i don't make money via monster hunting. My view on slayer is that it's a good skill. I do slayer all the time, and it's the main way I train. However, it's not as rewarding as it should be. All of the benefits are outdated. Slayer needs updates to its rewards. The last real update to slayer was 2 years ago with Spiritual Mages. It's due time for another. You can solo monster hunt just fine, and you can get way more than 500k per hour doing so (averaged out). You can make more than 1m per hour monster hunting solo. And all you're saying are potentials. You can POTENTIALLY make more at Abby demons. You can POTENTIALLY die. You can POTENTIALLY have to world hop. But when you look at the averages, it makes a very small dent (esp. since at Tdz, you can always get your items back, all of them). Give me a raw number, like an AVERAGE of the profit per hour of Abby demons or the best tasks. You'll find they aren't so great.

I wasn't saying it is, I was just commenting.

Man I'd give anything to have a skill that would be cash neutral. Neither making money or losing it. A skill that would be done by you and only you can the benefits of training. All produced items being untradeable. That would be sweet. I can hear the DIY'ers begging already.

I see, thanks.

Slayer is quite profitable. Really? What's the max you can make? 500k an hour with Spiritual Mages? You spend all your time getting to 83 slayer, and you could've killed Green Dragons and made that much money/hour. Abyssal demons are even worse, from what I hear, and no other monster comes close. Plus, by the time you're 83 slayer, you have the combat stats to make over 1m per hour boss hunting. So sure it's profitable, but not for what it's worth. If you're looking for profit, slayer might be good, but if you're seriously looking for cash, slayer isn't the way to go. EDIT: What monster before 83 makes a lot of money? Ab specs? Warped Terrorbirds? Cave Slimes? All of them are beat by other combat methods of making money.

There shouldn't be a reason to safe in f2p, though. This isn't some stupid rule. That's logic. The max hit is a 33 with a r2h + prayer + potion + 99 str + rune gaunts. Unless you're somehow below that, it's a much better idea to hit your opponent then eat. Safeing is good, but safing when you don't need to is bad.

I would change my vote to new weapons and armor. Slayer needs more incentives. Smoking Kills was a start, but not nearly a finish. Slayer needs to be profitable and rewarding. Right now, there's little reason to raise it to a high level, other than bragging rights/total levels/skill cape.

Hmm, I suppose. It's a possibility, to be sure.

I agree that it could have been better planned and conceptualized. A lot better.

Just a note: That would be against the rules unless it is of your direct family. yeh, gl inforcing that It would be just like the blocking adverts offense. They can only get you if you admit it (eg, you're an idiot).

A wise choice. I personally have steels and irons blocked. If you were to kill them, best way would be a leaf-bladed sword on stab (or whip if you have high attack) using prossy while praying melee using antifires. Very slow, however.

I thought it was more than that, nvm then. OFF TOPIC: Did someone really high alch an armadyl godsword or is there an alternate way of finding that out?

He's saying Falco's recovery is better than Fox's because Falco's phantasm covers more distance. He's also saying that the firefox/firebird doesn't matter because Falcos and Foxes rarely need it.

Do you have any argument other than "jagex have hard time, programming so hard!" So what, programmings hard but we DO pay them 5 dollars a month (well some of us do) therefore we expect our content to be of good quality, and not riddled with bugs on the day of release. Think of it logically. $5 isn't very much tbh. Compared to other games, Jagex charges very little. How big is their QA team? How many people test a single project? Maybe 10? How many players will play the new update when it comes out? Tens of thousands? Is it no wonder, then, that the players find more bugs?

Actually, I was referring to how the high alch price of an onyx ring is more than the high alch price of the AGS, so the imbued onyx ring would logically have a higher alch price than the AGS as well, resulting in it being protected over the AGS. And you only need 300 rank to imbue onyx.

How would he be under the edge anyways? Low altitude recovery I would guess.

I really like the color scheme in the trimmed slayer cape. My vote goes to that.

Excalibur, SGS, AGS, D claws, Dds, D bow. That's pretty much it, imo.

More like a few seconds right? Anyways, if you keep hitting 0 people can interrupt. Might as well use Flowers, because even with bronze cross+ bronze bolts + 99 def and you still get it. However, this is a pointless way to get EP. People can interrupt your attacks. Stated by Jagex to be 5 minutes if both of you are attacking each other. Flowers and other "fun" weapons (such as rubber chickens) don't work.

Not surprised tbh.