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I am a fan of elegant for skilling, this is what I wear :

Well if you skill in a PvP world for awhile 2 or so hours. Then you and your friend go to a hotspot and kill eachother while having 75k worth of cash in your invents. My friend does this all the time (trains agil in wildy with Brawling gloves) a number of the items he gets that are worth 3m+ won't sell in G.E. so in a way they are kind of junk. Unless those items are suppose to be sold in person. Vesta's spear was one of the items he got and couldn't sell in G.E. He's currently got 30m worth of "junk".

you should be getting more than around 5k more exp per hr also Can you point out where exactly I said anything about 5k exp? Other than the range of exp/hour I gave with Aviansies? 25-30k range exp at your lvl? you should have around 30-35-40kexp Tanking with B2P spell?? Maybe I don't pay attention then.

You shouldn't even be considering using chins until at LEAST 85 range. AT LEAST. Never use a cannon to train range it's a waste. Do what Lord_Diddy said. Knives at Yaks. They will be your best friends for a loong time though.

you should be getting more than around 5k more exp per hr also Can you point out where exactly I said anything about 5k exp? Other than the range of exp/hour I gave with Aviansies?

This is why you should do Toadflax. The profits are barely less than snaps and if your plant dies, you lose 600gp compared to 20k+.. Just some food for thought.

Don't waste your money. If you want 100k Range exp/hour use chins. It won't happen any other way (to my knowledge) Cannons are a money sink, they gain you nothing in return. Some will say cannon ice trolls but the exp there is minimal and it is the only place you could range with a cannon and gain profits, but its not worth it. 45k range exp/hour combines with probably 150k gp if your lucky. Your better off killing Aviansies for 25-30k range exp and 400k profit in an hour then spending that money on chins for 100k+ range exp in an hour. (All these numbers are based off my stats as well as others. Mainly 93 range, my level)

TBH I hear Godswords are more effective at 90+ melees. So from that plus personal experience I would say probably wasting time. that better to understand? How many Godswords do you bring on your trips? In my experience its only been one person. Would you want that one person to be the guy with 80 attack and 84 str?? OR the guy with 90+ att and str?

Slayer?? Yea Yea I know its not the best exp. But when I took a 3 month break I came back and played for a day and did slayer. I was never one to enjoy slayer before but for some reason after the loong layoff when I came back it was actually fun. At least get 55 to open up more opportunities for future training like slayer dart and broad bolts. It might be just what you need : BTW use the best slayer master you can. I find that to be the best.

Your favorite one? That's what I did and it was the most rewarding experience I've had in RS.

This guide is going on 2 years old but I believe the information is still accurate. I don't think any new "breakthroughs" have been made on the chinning scene so it should still be accurate.

I second everything the guy above me said just incase you needed confimation or something. Fletching gains you money, though it isn't as much as it use to be, it still does. Buy the supplies make yew longs and resell the finished bows. Mage longs I am not sure if you gain or lose on, but I do know they are harder to do in bulk, since they cost nearly 3 times the price of yew long supplies. I personally did yew longs to 99, I would suggest you do the same.

This = spam, because it's completely worthless. Way to spam that post count, dude. -.- 1 post. It still would be really nice to know your budget. I used 6M on a setup, used 8 B2P (and probably like 23 swordies from drops or so) for 1.6M at aviansies. ;)? 3837 posts -.- :roll: Anywho... Take Muggies advice. Void + DFS. Pretty much all you'll need. You will be bringing B2P as well so with about 50 tabs (bones to peach tabs...) you should have more than enough to stay for hours on end. Now I realize not everyone can afford a DFS. So how about trying other items like a Granite Shield or a simple rune kite. They should be decent subs. Many people I see that get max kill count usually use Torag legs, God D'hide torso, Good shield (DFS, Granite) arma helm, ranger boots, God d'hide bracers (opposite of the d hide top), Fury ammy and Accumulator. As well as a ton of alch runes and B2P tabs. Seems to work well for them :oops:

Any argument you had to support your claim was pretty much thrown out the window with that statement (bolded and underlined) You have absolutely 0 experience with barrows armor which gives you 0 opinion in any matters over barrows armor. I did slayer for about 3 months solid wearing barrows. Do you know what I spent to repair? About 500k, if that, for 4 sets (Guthans, Torags, Ahrims and Karils) That was hardcore combat training for 3 months. All the money I spent on repairs, was made back in 2 days (3 max) of doing slayer. Well worth it TBH. To the creator of the thread: Fish for your money. Monkfish at your level is probably the best you can ask for. Also forget the bandos. Stick with barrows. You heard that it degrades, blah blah blah, but 15 hours of 'IN COMBAT' is quite a long time. Mind numbingly long in actuality. Its cheaper, has better stats and if you use an armor stand in someone's house to repair, it costs next to nothing anyways. *Waits for the argument about not being able to be bothered to find an armor stand* Just so you know, if you go to the RSOF (Runescape Official Forums, on the main RS website) and go to the events section. Just about anyone with an open alter will have an armor stand. Also W31, Yanille you can find the open house there and 9 times out of 10 it will have a repair stand. Just a little FYI.

This is terrible exp for farming (Not to crush your hopes Link) :| Watermelons are a terrible thing to plant because they fill up your inventory to the point of having to bank 2 or even 3 times just for the two allotment patches alone. The fastest exp would be your best fruit tree seed and your best regular tree seed. Plant those. You can check and plant the regular ones 2 times a day. (I usually just do it once though) and you can check your fruit trees once a day. This is going to be costly though so I will tell you a less costly way in a bit more detail. ----------------------------------------------------------- This is usually the best "bang for your buck": The best regular seed to use is the willow seeds, even when you can plant maples and yews. (For faster exp you might want to step up to maples but it will cost you.. in fact I don't think its worth it seeing as they are 34k!! Compared to 4k for a willow seed) Willows are the best gp/exp As for your fruit trees you should be planting any really. Once you hit level 51 farming only do Pineapples though. So from 37-51 do whatever you can. Banana's until 39 then oranges until 51 (you can switch to curry but its only 500 more exp per seed and cost 3k per seed where as oranges are only 800 gp) Once you hit 51 go straight to pineapples. Now to make a dent in (for the most part completely cover the cost for farming) you will need to plant herbs. Doing toadflax + marigolds have the best return ratio gp/seed. (I do toadflax even though I can plant ranarr and snaps, they are more worth it IMO) A toadflax seed is 460 gp but the herbs you get back can be sold for 2.1k! So once you get that 1 level plant toadflax's + marigolds for the max return. Doing 4+ herb runs a day is enough to pay for any costs you ensue for the price of tree seeds. So I will summarize if for you. The only thing you should be planting is: Regular trees. (Willows all the way to your goal level) Fruit trees. (Banana until oranges, then oranges until pineapples. Pineapples until your goal level) Herbs + Flowers. (Toadflax and marigolds, all the way to your goal level) Things to Remember: -Magic Sectuers (when you get them) always use them when harvesting herbs. -Always use super-compost on your herb seeds and marigolds too if you want (I always do) -Always pay the farmers their respective costs when planting trees. Some people tell you not to but I don't like losing out on an extra 8k exp if a couple of my trees die. (The cost of farmer payments can make it get a bit pricey, but its nothing that a 5th herb run can't cover the cost of) -Always do 4 herb runs a day (5 or more if you are on a bit more often and can squeeze it in) -Always do ONE tree run a day. This applies to fruit trees mainly since they only grow once a day. But you can if you want make two regular tree runs a day to maximize your exp. (If I forgot anything I welcome anyone to correct me)... Djay? ... :oops:

Just do oak larders. Using your butler it should take you 2 hours.. 3 MAX.

Yes. Also when you do it make all 4 gree grees (Zombie, Gorilla, Ninja and Normal) it never hurts to have them all and you can do them all in one trip so why not.

I prefer fire giants. Nicer people, less crowded, easier to get to. More alchable drops. Just all around better IMO.

Wait the 52 days, hope the prices don't bomb and sell em for 40m and be happy you got that much with no junk. (20m * 2 claws = 40m.. I know some people would question me saying 40m :roll: )

Pest Control. The island with the bank and shops. You can't cast non-combat spells while in the actual game.

Do you want 2k total + 99 mage and str all at the same time? If you do you only need 4 levels in a different stat before 2k total. So just do something like get those last 4 crafting levels to make it a round number.

Zammy Rune Plate + D skirt (or legs) looks pretty sweet to me. + with an hp cape it would be that much better.

I get 23k exp/hour at metals and 67-69k exp/hour with alching. I don't think the hp exp adds up to more than the alching exp. Even when added on top of it. --- One of my favorite ways to do it is with enchanting in MTA its 69k exp/hour and last I checked (over a year or so ago :oops: ) You didn't lose much although I don't have the exact numbers. I also hear that just actually doing MTA can provide a profit with buying mages books or infinity items. This I am not certain about though. I also heard of stunning the dummy in your house as being 80k exp/hour but souls are expensive (or at least they were) so expect to spend quite a bit. Rock Lobbies are definitely a net loss, but you will get much charms and 100k+ exp/hour. A lot of people do DK's as the profit made is very nice, but the exp/hour there I am not sure of, if I had to guess I would say max 50k exp/hour?

I only read the last page but I have a suggestion. Raise cats and do something else. Like Farming or mining rune or something like that. (I know you may not be able to mine rune, but there may be other people with this question not just the OP.)

While I appreciate the discussion I have just read I would like you all to take into consideration one thing. Can we talk in terms of 'Actual' spending? As opposed to 'Potential' earnings? I myself am a man who chooses to avoid the idea of "Buying a staff from Zaff costs 8000" When I only drop 7000 per staff. Is there potential to sell for more? Yes of course. But I am not looking to gain a profit I am looking for exp. For me the 'potential' profit I may incur is the crafting exp. So you see I spent 7k for a staff instead of 8k on it in GE. That's 1k off if you ask me + exp if you ask me. Just saying how I look at it and if you wouldn't mind could you talk in terms of 'actual' instead of 'potential'?? **Forgot to mention I know my staff prices are off but I was just giving an example using fictitious numbers to get my point across.