Eddo89

I rarely go in contact with the "other" group. So I will mostly use my Arcanist (Funorb, made by Jagex) as my main problem. I'm budget in Arcanist, I don't pay for it as I don't think is worth it (Argument against member, which also can apply for RS). The free servers is free for both Free and Members, with members also able to use their members spells as well. From experience members are generally arrogant, they expect to come in and win. That, is hardly the case (I win more than I lose in fact). Doesn't necessarily translate in to RS, but generally, members probably look down at F2Ps more often than not. People say that members sometimes treat F2P terribly. I don't think that is the entire story, is more likely they treat newbies badly. Since F2P has more newbs, of course on paper it would appear we treat F2P worse. What I really cannot get is the elitist nature of members in terms of updates. Look at this list: * Regular content updates * Exclusive fullscreen mode * Nine more skills to train * No in-game adverts * 29 members-only minigames * Your own home to construct * Over 100 more quests to complete * A world three-times larger to explore It never said updates are P2P exclusive. You cannot fault Jagex in anyway, they aren't falsely advertising. As long as there is regular content, nothing is wrong. Not to mention the fact is that Jagex doesn't pay for ALL F2P costs. It is in their interest to get more F2P players as well to make the content more appealing. And really, is a Lumby Achievement Update, or some security place update with monsters that is worse than those found in members really going to make you feel $5 bucks is not worth it?

It is fair to say F2P got it harder, especially RC and prayer. But one thing not taken into account so far is that F2P also have less skills to train on. They also have less mini-games to play. So probably more of their time is devoted to the slow grinding of the skill. And I feel is only fair that members have it quicker as they pay for everything else in members as well. So I don't think is entirely fair to say F2P is 99 is a bigger achievement. Possibly even if you got a higher level in a skill doesn't mean you are necessarily superior, as there is so much more to do in members. You really can't claim you are superior just because you didn't do anything something that is perfectly within the rules of the game. Is not a member's fault for getting members, is a F2P's problem for not getting it.

Yes. In the past, I have essentially quit RS, but still stuck with the clan, going to events was all I did.

Opinions....but perhaps some educated opinions? Terrorbird is arguable, but a supply of energy potions wouldn't slow down much. And your terrorbird method has to lap the Lurker method basically once every 5 laps to get more essence. Pouches? Please, THINK. He is level 68 in RC, he can use a Large Pouch. Which holds 7 essence when damaged, why on earth would you leave out the pouches altogether? And the thing is, pouch repair is merely a quick detour which extends a trip around 10-15 seconds, not a lot. ZMI is fastest. Any Abyssal method is preferable conventional altar methods. Graahk, I never personally tested, but on the assumption of where they land, they should be faster than Abyss with lurker as the altar is basically a few steps away. Astral runes, nah. They aren't great XP anyway. And the wisdom on teleport tablets: Time to get them is better used runecrafting.

Not with cabbage port, no. I never buy them for profits, I just get them for herblore. But I use glory, which is way faster than any method unless you combine it with cabbage port. But if you are going to use newts for profit, chances are you don't have an abundant of glories.

He meant 85 melee combat stats. Black Demons are best ranged in Taverley or Edgeville (Wild). I personally fight them using pray in Chaos Tunnels for the charm drops (there is a great deal difference in charm drop rates, last I went there at least). Dust Devils are best melee. They aren't strong, you would need a facemask to fight them, even in Chaos Tunnels, which is the best place to fight them in my opinion. Maybe I have a vendetta against the desert. Bones to Peaches is highly recommended as they drop bones, along with nature runes and fire runes to alch any loot. This would ensure you stay a long time. Buying the tabs are well worth the money and time. Cockroaches, never actually trained on them. But they seem to be your typical mid-high level monster. Some solid equipment is enough. Greater Demons, you can try halberding them in the Ogre Enclave. Or range them if you prefer that method. Best place to get up close is Birmhaven Dungeon, just fight them in the corner of of their area, thats the best place as there is fewer dogs and other players tend not to go as deep. Never fought the Waterfiends. But a set up was posted above. Generally, Crush weapons like GS is recommended. The Zamorakian Spear is another name that pops up often.

If you planning to to herblore and your level is not terribly high, consider picking up Guams as well if you aren't going to splash huge amounts of cash on it. The second ingredient, newt eye, is very easy to get. And you would be buying them for Irit anyway, they both use eye of newt. But otherwise, harralander and up is a good criteria.

Easy. Slap on range prayer and fight. Far as I know, he haven't change.

IRC, though CC have its merits as well. For intents of RS, clan chat has the upper hand definitely though. The fact you can talk during wars or hunts to everyone that is outside of public chat earshot without having to do an additional click is great. Advantage of it is that it is accessible to everyone, even those who use full screen. But, I daresay, no clans have events 24/7. Still, is not as though clan members don't interact, so in the community standpoint IRC gets the thumbs up. There is no need to point put the reasons why as they are obvious, links, logging on etc. The most important part is that it allows for RS-offline chatting. People come and go in clans, for many is simply because they left the game. Yet, they are still online friends and surely you don't expect them to log on just to chat. Most people who don't use IRC never tried it, only a very small proportion of people I met actually have problems connecting to it. It may be a little complex comparatively to CC, but surely any one with a mental capacity to join a clan can learn at least the basic aspects of IRC. If you use clients like SK, connecting to IRC can be one-click away and on the same screen as well, unless on full screen. It is also an avenue for muted players to communicate freely. CC at current stage have no auto-connect, which is why I hate using it. If I take a small break, I need to re-connect. Same with changing worlds. And while you are offline, you will miss parts of conversation, and peeps have to re-type things you missed if it was important. This problem, along with links and administrative issues won't be solved unless Jagex fundamentally change how they run CC, as how RS operates restricts obvious solutions. I also dislike the "/" part. If you forgot to type it in, you have to type the line again. Minor but annoying. So, CC is a tool to help in playing RS. IRC is a tool to a clan community. I don't think you can build a community by CC alone.

Trade removals. Before you complain, READ the reasons they gave in the development diaries for their removal. And graphics, same thing. Of course, such updates it is of detrimental of the gameplay so surely they want something to entice you back in. Thats what companies do, unless they want a different route to go bankrupt. Your thread is meaningless, it just shows how you don't look at the other side of things. This rant is more suitable at RSOF as that place got more noobs who don't know a thing about the reason behind removal of RWT and thats the place where you will get any agreement.

Yanille mine definitely. Some may say that Khazard deposit box may be faster than Yanille, but it is the same mine. Ardougne, Varrock and Dwarven mine comparatively is quite equal i think.

Iron.....if you are not going to keep them there is no point. Granite is always going to be better for levels. Lunars aside, if you go in full desert gear you would last around 2minutes per dose of water. So if you go in there with 25 waterskins (3 spots for the granite), you could last more than 3 hours. Which is extremely decent. It could be also quite useful for profits as well, as each 500g is worth 1.4k though banking would be a huge problem. Just mine a full inventory of it before you leave.

If it gains wide acceptance, possibly it will impact negatively to clans that actively uses client with inbuilt IRC chat and might increase clan chat usage though. Warring may be a problem but the fact it is full screen would mean that there might be less lag.

Thats the nature of RS. Don't complain. Even I haven't ranted about Rocking Out, all smithing resource went up and all products went down dramatically. Why? Everyone is wishing to buy. Eating into my profits, wasting me time while I try to outcompete those buying themeselves 69 fast as possible. Everything eventually cool down. Jagex shouldn't need to bother to cater for a problem that rarely lasts for more than 2 weeks.

Is one of those old school skills where you literally have to click your way to everything. Right now, mining is perfect. It is not ridiculous with you having to mine every time you fail yet you have to do something. This is the perfect blend. These days, everything that doesn't involved automatically filling up your inventory is bad. Personally, I would much rather have fishing and woodcutting changed to the mining system, once you get a fish/log, you need to re-click. Harder yes, but come on, it is in the same line of skill as mining in that it is resource gathering and you aren't really "fishing" much if you just click and then standstill. Now add in the fact you get more xp anyway. Call me backward thinking and living in the past all you like, I believe if you are to gain resource directly from the RS environment, it should more than just click and wait. I don't care about smithing, crafting, herblore or farming as much, as items there is already in the player medium, and you are going to succeed in the next mixing of a potion regardless, unlike resource gathering where you could "miss".

Coal is a precious commodity these days, if you got access to the mining guild. Any slow gaining resource is good way to make money.

If you step into my house. It is in my legal right to tell you shut up, turn around and GET THE HELL out. This is quite the same for JaGex. Freedom of speech is universal, it is backed by UN and perhaps only democracy embrace it better than most other systems. To the point of the matter. When you agree to play their game, in a way, you give up some rights. You agreed to those when you created your character. It doesn't matter if you pay, they can kick you out of the game IF they find you broke the terms of service. Right to speak is a privilege as it is in their domain. It is a privilege for those who sticks within the rules.

The global warming message is explicit but it is a premature thing as there is no irrefutable proof yet that CO2 causes global warming. They made their views clear, for the better or not. But I ask, why do you feel it is inappropriate? Whether you like it or not, games is progressively targeted by movement of all the different sorts. Most of which is safety issues. There was a game in Scotland where they had safe driving messages every time you turn it on. Smoking kills. It is proven fact, I really do not see why it is a problem. RS age group is the next generation of smokers, putting it to a stop is the responsibility of everyone. Yes, this is clearly some form of propaganda but argue against fact makes you a moron as smoking cost the the health care millions a year. Is a quest name, it is not a contentious issue anymore, there is no problem. Sorry, but when I look at the numbers condemning smoking every day in my studies I'm literally pissed that kids are starting to smoke (age of 10 even) and these sort of messages is criticized because those people doesn't like a message or two about future heath problems. And if you are being jumpy over global warming and smoking messages....then I could argue that RS is a propaganda for gods and religion as well. They are shoving me god items. Possibly I should be feeling aggrieved more as it is all over the game while global warming is only in one quest. Suspend reality for a while. Is not as though they are recruiting you to Greenpeace. And remember that message of the week? Where say rest 15 minutes every hour? People were whinging about it, hey genius, it is on the inside cover of the manual of console games, is not anything new. You can't always expect games to be untouched by the powers of different movement, the serpent has long entered this Garden of Eden you still think the gaming industry is. Long as is not political movement where it is a bigger can of worms, why not? Kids playing RS aren't subjected to the same amount of safety or political notices than those who watch television.

I hope the word sarcasm is in your dictionary.

Do you need to actually learn how to do it first? I had a Turoth task after doing the quest and it dropped none.

People will say "I need to have a pee, brb". How many of you are going to say "I need to urinate"? That is weird to begin with. Problem for me with no censors is as stated numerous times, kids just going to fling it around with careless disregard. I swear sometimes, not a lot, but I really only use it when I need to show my feelings in a direct way. It is not pleasant, I don't enjoy hearing it nevermind reading it. Those that is starting to get into teenage year will swear all the time and it just isn't going to be pleasant. And for many, their limited vocab tends to mean that possibly the swear word that begins with "F" is their generic choice of adjective. It does slightly amusing listening to them though.

Horrid quest. The amount of jumping around is astoundingly annoying. Rewards nice and is quite amusing but man, I just hate quests that involves "go fetch".

I probably won't be using full screen mode as it probably cuts out my IRC.....which I use a lot. It is pretty clear though the whole idea of full screen is to enhance graphics. That being said, I won't be picking RS over other MMORPG because of the graphics. All it will really be is something that is easier on the eyes, I can sit back a bit further and thats it really. Also, while skilling you are going to be frequently looking at other screens and I will never get to use to switching screens using Alt + Tab. Perhaps when I'm monster hunting.

It stops large scale RWT. 3 BH worlds ensure it will be almost always slightly full. Junk trading perhaps but is not such a big deal. I love this ignorant people though. They almost seem to think JaGex just one day decided to get rid of RWT without putting much thoughts to it. The irony.

This is such a silly topic. It isn't even a debate. This is almost as if you are making the same transition from RS to RS2. Of course people is going to play the new one because of graphics, wild, trade etc and of course this will not happen because of RWT. So what is there to debate? It seems as though the true debate is the stolen credit cards.