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Intelligent teenagers often listen to heavy metal music to cope with the pressures associated with being talented, according to research.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The results of a study of more than 1,000 of the brightest five per cent of young people will come as relief to parents whose offspring, usually long-haired, are devotees of Iron Maiden, AC/DC and their musical descendants.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Researchers found that, far from being a sign of delinquency and poor academic ability, many adolescent "metalheads" are extremely bright and often use the music to help them deal with the stresses and strains of being gifted social outsiders.

Glad I'm not too bright, otherwise I had to listen to Heavy Metal to deal with all that stress that comes from being intelligent.

Yay :D

The results of a study of more than 1,000 of the brightest five per cent of young people

How many are in the brightest 5 percent though?

 

 

 

For all we know there may be like 100000 or something in that :-s

i dunno about that, the smartest people i know usually just get really wasted to deal with stress.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

either that, or make terrorist threats using powdered sugar as "anthrax"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

what a day off from classes that was. :?

Well, heavy metal is the most awesome music in the world, afterall. :P

Did they just say AC/DC was heavy metal?

Did they just say AC/DC was heavy metal?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's a pretty silly misconception seeing as they, themselves often label thier own music as 'Rock n' Roll.'

I only listen to it to p- off the neighbors :D

Iron Maiden FTW!!

 

 

 

I notice they don't mention Judas Priest though.... maybe they aren't metal.

 

 

 

Anyway, I'm not particularly talented, and I listen to Heavy Metal.

Iron Maiden FTW!!

 

 

 

I notice they don't mention Judas Priest though.... maybe they aren't metal.

 

 

 

Anyway, I'm not particularly talented, and I listen to Heavy Metal.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Judas are metal. ;P Maiden/Priest/Saxon are like. That trinity of awesomeness.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Swell. I guess I'm intelligent, ROFLMFAO. Except maybe it doesn't apply to me. I'm slightly arrogant, have a high self-esteem, and don't really have to deal with much stress.

Pfft ok then.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The researchers surveyed 1,057 members of the National Academy for Gifted and Talented Youth - a body whose 120,000 student members are within the top five per cent academically in the 11-19 age range.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They surveyed only 1057 students in a single school in England, students of which have already been labelled as gifted. If the survey was conducted over at least all schools in England, or more than just schools which are already considered "Gifted" schools, then I may take it more seriously. Sample size, and source of the sample is not enough to base a generalisation of the population.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Depending on how they collected their data, if they left it open for people to participate, out of the 120000 students it may appeal more to people that listen to heavy metal, rather than those of other genres. Therefore a higher result, obviously if it was randomly selected this point does not apply. Also due to the nature of schools and peer pressure, surveying a single school leaves little external validity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Therefore you can only say that in that school, the favourite music to listen to is heavy metal, and that with heavy metal these students appear to have lower self esteem and problems with family. Just because it was done in a school full of gifted kids, does not then mean you can say that everyone who listens to heavy metal is in the top 5% academically of the population.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It just means they (the students of a gifted school) are already in the top 5%, and a majority happen to prefer heavy metal music over anything else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry for the rant. Can go on a bit, I know.

I'm probally in the 'Gifted and talented' area for maths and I listen to heavy metal. I also know a guy in the bottom set for maths and he too listens to heavy metal. We both come from middle-class backgrounds and have good self-esteem and family relationships. I didn't see anywhere in that study that said more brightr students listened to heavy metal than less bright students, all I saw was that they made some connection between bright kids feeling extra pressure and turning to metal for support. I'd really like to see the statistics for this, as I doubt there is a correlation between music taste and academic ability.

Weird cause all the people I know irl who listen to heavy metal are far from being gifted. The tone of that article is infuriating btw, because it sets off from the premise that it is commonly held that listening to heavy metal is something frowned upon, bordering on delinquent. That's about as untrue as it being 'the music of the gifted'.

 

 

 

That study has lots of flaws, cause it's a correlative study as far as I can tell, and you cannot draw a conclusion of causality from a correlative study. In other words, if you find out I'm intelligent, and that I listen to heavy metal, you can't draw the conclusion that I listen to heavy metal because I'm intelligent. Or else you may as well assume I eat pancakes because I'm intelligent. I agree there's no relationship whatsoever between the music you listen to and your talent or intelligence, and not even your stress level, for that matter.

goldphisies is that a picture of eddie????? if so where did u find it!!!!

Funny, I've been described as 'gifted', 'talented', and one of the smartest students in school (I don't like talking about thisd stuff though, that's what prideful fatheads do), and I listen to hip-hop. In fact, in my elective today, my teacher and a bunch of Fall Out idiots (or Fall Out Boy fans, if you want to be respectful) were talking about how hip-hop was nothing but 'garbage' about "drugs clubs, and boobies". I got pissed and said "That's the biggest load of garbage I've ever heard", and went on about people like 2Pac, The Wu-Tang, etc. And they just replied by accusing me of liking it just because it's popular.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Though that may not be a big deal to some, stuff like that really just ticks me off. I hate that while other musical genres are praised for one reason or the other, hip-hop is constantly attacked because of artists with no real talent flooding the market. So now, all of hip-hop is criticized because it's seen by the general public as music that's about nothing more than drugs, women, spending money, and other materialistic stuff. But, these are also the people who don't listen to the stuff that's considered real rap (Such as 'Pac, Nas, Jay-Z, Wu-Tang, etc.). I suppose those who are fans of metal go through the same problems to a certain extent, with metal stereotypically branded as violent and destructive (though I don't listen to metal, I'm sure that that is not the case, and that metal has important messages to it's listeners just as hip-hop does to it's listeners).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dunno, I guess I'm just annoyed at how hip-hop is stereotypically branded. What I'm trying to say is hip-hop, no matter how it's seen in the eyes of the mainstream public, can also be an intelligent form of music for people, just as well as metal. I know I wouldn't be as smart or as unique as I am today without copies of Illmatic, The Blueprint, All Eyez on Me, and of course 36 Chambers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

/rant

Funny, I've been described as 'gifted', 'talented', and one of the smartest students in school (I don't like talking about thisd stuff though, that's what prideful fatheads do), and I listen to hip-hop. In fact, in my elective today, my teacher and a bunch of Fall Out idiots (or Fall Out Boy fans, if you want to be respectful) were talking about how hip-hop was nothing but 'garbage' about "drugs clubs, and boobies". I got pissed and said "That's the biggest load of garbage I've ever heard", and went on about people like 2Pac, The Wu-Tang, etc. And they just replied by accusing me of liking it just because it's popular.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Though that may not be a big deal to some, stuff like that really just ticks me off. I hate that while other musical genres are praised for one reason or the other, hip-hop is constantly attacked because of artists with no real talent flooding the market. So now, all of hip-hop is criticized because it's seen by the general public as music that's about nothing more than drugs, women, spending money, and other materialistic stuff. But, these are also the people who don't listen to the stuff that's considered real rap (Such as 'Pac, Nas, Jay-Z, Wu-Tang, etc.). I suppose those who are fans of metal go through the same problems to a certain extent, with metal stereotypically branded as violent and destructive (though I don't listen to metal, I'm sure that that is not the case, and that metal has important messages to it's listeners just as hip-hop does to it's listeners).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dunno, I guess I'm just annoyed at how hip-hop is stereotypically branded. What I'm trying to say is hip-hop, no matter how it's seen in the eyes of the mainstream public, can also be an intelligent form of music for people, just as well as metal. I know I wouldn't be as smart or as unique as I am today without copies of Illmatic, The Blueprint, All Eyez on Me, and of course 36 Chambers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

/rant

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I find it funny that people who listen to Fall Out Boy accuse somebody of liking a band for popularity.

Funny, I've been described as 'gifted', 'talented', and one of teh smartest students in school (I don't liek talking about thisd st00f tho, that's what prideful fatheads do), and I listen to hip-hop. In fact, in my elective today, my teacher and a bunch of Fall Out idiots (or Fall Out Boy fans, if you want to be respectful) were talking about how hip-hop was nothing but 'garbage' about "drugs clubs, and boobies". I got pissed and said "That's teh biggest load of garbage I've ever heard", and went on about people liek 2Pac, teh Wu-Tang, etc. And they just replied by accusing me of liking it just because it's popular.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

tho that may not be a big deal to sum, st00f liek that really just ticks me off. I hate that while other musical genres are praised 4 one reason or teh other, hip-hop is constantly attacked because of artists with no real talent flooding teh market. So now, all of hip-hop is criticized because it's seen by teh general public as music that's about nothing more then drugs, women, spending money, and other materialistic st00f. But, these are also teh people who don't listen to teh st00f that's considered real rap (Such as 'Pac, Nas, Jay-Z, Wu-Tang, etc.). I suppose those who are fans of metal go through teh same problems to a certain extent, with metal stereotypically branded as violent and destructive (tho I don't listen to metal, I'm sure that that is not teh case, and that metal has important messages to it's listeners just as hip-hop does to it's listeners).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dunno, I guess I'm just annoyed at how hip-hop is stereotypically branded. What I'm trying to say is hip-hop, no matter how it's seen in teh eyes of teh mainstream public, can also be an intelligent form of music 4 people, just as well as metal. I know I wouldn't be as smart or as unique as I am today without copies of Illmatic, teh Blueprint, All Eyez on Me, and of course 36 Chambers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

/rant

 

 

 

Are you serious with that grammar?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Come on, "teh" was dead over a year ago, noones going to take you seriously..

Dude, :lol:

 

Funny, I've been described as 'gifted', 'talented', and one of teh smartest students in school (I don't liek talking about thisd st00f tho, that's what prideful fatheads do), and I listen to hip-hop. In fact, in my elective today, my teacher and a bunch of Fall Out idiots (or Fall Out Boy fans, if you want to be respectful) were talking about how hip-hop was nothing but 'garbage' about "drugs clubs, and boobies". I got pissed and said "That's teh biggest load of garbage I've ever heard", and went on about people liek 2Pac, teh Wu-Tang, etc. And they just replied by accusing me of liking it just because it's popular.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

tho that may not be a big deal to sum, st00f liek that really just ticks me off. I hate that while other musical genres are praised 4 one reason or teh other, hip-hop is constantly attacked because of artists with no real talent flooding teh market. So now, all of hip-hop is criticized because it's seen by teh general public as music that's about nothing more then drugs, women, spending money, and other materialistic st00f. But, these are also teh people who don't listen to teh st00f that's considered real rap (Such as 'Pac, Nas, Jay-Z, Wu-Tang, etc.). I suppose those who are fans of metal go through teh same problems to a certain extent, with metal stereotypically branded as violent and destructive (tho I don't listen to metal, I'm sure that that is not teh case, and that metal has important messages to it's listeners just as hip-hop does to it's listeners).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dunno, I guess I'm just annoyed at how hip-hop is stereotypically branded. What I'm trying to say is hip-hop, no matter how it's seen in teh eyes of teh mainstream public, can also be an intelligent form of music 4 people, just as well as metal. I know I wouldn't be as smart or as unique as I am today without copies of Illmatic, teh Blueprint, All Eyez on Me, and of course 36 Chambers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

/rant

 

 

 

Are you serious with that grammar?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Come on, "teh" was dead over a year ago, noones going to take you seriously..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It gives me great pleasure to say:

 

 

 

APRIL FOOLS! :D

 

 

Funny, I've been described as 'gifted', 'talented', and one of teh smartest students in school (I don't liek talking about thisd st00f tho, that's what prideful fatheads do), and I listen to hip-hop. In fact, in my elective today, my teacher and a bunch of Fall Out idiots (or Fall Out Boy fans, if you want to be respectful) were talking about how hip-hop was nothing but 'garbage' about "drugs clubs, and boobies". I got pissed and said "That's teh biggest load of garbage I've ever heard", and went on about people liek 2Pac, teh Wu-Tang, etc. And they just replied by accusing me of liking it just because it's popular.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

tho that may not be a big deal to sum, st00f liek that really just ticks me off. I hate that while other musical genres are praised 4 one reason or teh other, hip-hop is constantly attacked because of artists with no real talent flooding teh market. So now, all of hip-hop is criticized because it's seen by teh general public as music that's about nothing more then drugs, women, spending money, and other materialistic st00f. But, these are also teh people who don't listen to teh st00f that's considered real rap (Such as 'Pac, Nas, Jay-Z, Wu-Tang, etc.). I suppose those who are fans of metal go through teh same problems to a certain extent, with metal stereotypically branded as violent and destructive (tho I don't listen to metal, I'm sure that that is not teh case, and that metal has important messages to it's listeners just as hip-hop does to it's listeners).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dunno, I guess I'm just annoyed at how hip-hop is stereotypically branded. What I'm trying to say is hip-hop, no matter how it's seen in teh eyes of teh mainstream public, can also be an intelligent form of music 4 people, just as well as metal. I know I wouldn't be as smart or as unique as I am today without copies of Illmatic, teh Blueprint, All Eyez on Me, and of course 36 Chambers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

/rant

 

 

 

Are you serious with that grammar?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Come on, "teh" was dead over a year ago, noones going to take you seriously..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It gives me great pleasure to say:

 

 

 

APRIL FOOLS! :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh God, I got owned :oops:

 

 

Funny, I've been described as 'gifted', 'talented', and one of teh smartest students in school (I don't liek talking about thisd st00f tho, that's what prideful fatheads do), and I listen to hip-hop. In fact, in my elective today, my teacher and a bunch of Fall Out idiots (or Fall Out Boy fans, if you want to be respectful) were talking about how hip-hop was nothing but 'garbage' about "drugs clubs, and boobies". I got pissed and said "That's teh biggest load of garbage I've ever heard", and went on about people liek 2Pac, teh Wu-Tang, etc. And they just replied by accusing me of liking it just because it's popular.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

tho that may not be a big deal to sum, st00f liek that really just ticks me off. I hate that while other musical genres are praised 4 one reason or teh other, hip-hop is constantly attacked because of artists with no real talent flooding teh market. So now, all of hip-hop is criticized because it's seen by teh general public as music that's about nothing more then drugs, women, spending money, and other materialistic st00f. But, these are also teh people who don't listen to teh st00f that's considered real rap (Such as 'Pac, Nas, Jay-Z, Wu-Tang, etc.). I suppose those who are fans of metal go through teh same problems to a certain extent, with metal stereotypically branded as violent and destructive (tho I don't listen to metal, I'm sure that that is not teh case, and that metal has important messages to it's listeners just as hip-hop does to it's listeners).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dunno, I guess I'm just annoyed at how hip-hop is stereotypically branded. What I'm trying to say is hip-hop, no matter how it's seen in teh eyes of teh mainstream public, can also be an intelligent form of music 4 people, just as well as metal. I know I wouldn't be as smart or as unique as I am today without copies of Illmatic, teh Blueprint, All Eyez on Me, and of course 36 Chambers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

/rant

 

 

 

Are you serious with that grammar?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Come on, "teh" was dead over a year ago, noones going to take you seriously..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It gives me great pleasure to say:

 

 

 

APRIL FOOLS! :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ditto. I didn't type like that on purpose, it was the filter. As an April Fools joke, Tip.It changed the filter so that the appeared as 'teh', for as '4', etc. I guess you're not going to be taken seriously after that post. -.-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik7oG5_qPj4

ermm i dont know about this, the school i got to is one of the best in the whole of the U.K - (we have less than 10% of people not getinint at least 10 A's and A*'s for GCSE) - and 90% of people at my school do listen to metal, but the really clever ones actually listen to clasical and stuff, (by really clever i mean like 100% in every exam they will ever sit, period)