Rule 2 Change: Should Luring be alloud?

[Lakitsym_Rose]

EDIT: Stop posting "Andrew is my favorite" or "They did a good job" or "Luring was good/bad". If you post add an argument or agreement to someones debatable post.

 

 

 

EDIT: To Mods: Please don't move this to debate forum. I'd prefer having multiple people see this and multiple opinions posted then the same people saying the same thing.

 

 

 

EDIT: To Mods: To the next Mod who sees this can you please either delete the flames and spam.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Luring should be allowed because there is a warning you can die and lose your items if you enter the wilderness

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Luring shouldn't be allowed because it's deceiving people to get them into the wild - Scamming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To add to these PM me with your side. Presented the same way as above.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In our continuing efforts to make RuneScape a nicer place to be, we've just made a slight modification to Rule 2. It hasn't changed much at all, it's more of a clarification, and there are no changes to the meat of the rule itself. If you look at the bottom of the rule, here, you'll see a brief list of example scams. We've now expanded this to state that luring someone into the Wilderness under false pretences is definitely a scam.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The majority of you all are good players who stick to the rules, so this shouldn't affect you, but rule breakers beware!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Note: This is a reversal of what was posted on the forums a while back. We realised the earlier decision was a bad idea, and that luring really isn't very nice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rule 2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some examples of item scams are:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* Offering an item and then removing the item within the first or second trade screen.

 

 

 

* Offering an item and changing the agreed price within the first or second trade screen.

 

 

 

* Misleading players by providing false or inaccurate information, for your own personal gain.

 

 

 

* Luring players into the Wilderness under false pretences

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mentality Of A Lurer

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't just post "No it shouldn't" or "Yes it should". Give a reason as to why you think that way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Points I and others made in previous posts:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You wish. Mentality of a lurer is "Let's find someone retarted enough to take something of value into a situation they know they can die from." And guess what. It works.

 

 

 

The good lurers, the ones who can actually succesfully lure someone for 10-450M+, are a lot smarter then you are because they can actually convince someone to take something of actual worth. Thats right, if you become a spectacular lurer you can practically make a living off a morons on RS. 100M+ in 5 Minutes? A tenth the risk of Staking and the same reward.

 

 

 

A great lurer, can have a blast on RS with their Lured Phats and Mils. You can stick to your RS "honor" of making money by skills and merchanting. But I'll stick to buying Skills and Rares with the money I made in a millionth of the time it took you, thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So what about the people who lure you into they're house then use the dungeon glitch to get all of your all of your rares that you brought for thr so called "house party".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

By the way i know people who are dumb enough to get lured in some cases should lose they're items. You do have to remember to put yourself in they're shoes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most people only link lureing witht he wilderness when thats not always the case.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

K when your dumb enough to believe it's a house party and not a lure when there is 1-2 People and they insist on going to the dungeon then you still deserve to lose your stuff. Basic Common Sense of a ten-year old bud, doesn't require much thought to know it's a trick.

 

 

 

Put myself in their shoes? If I were ever that stupid I'd kill myself for being such a waste of sperm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You are what I always called a non-player. You cannot play the game the way it was meant to be, so you lie, cheat and steal.

 

 

 

I don't? I wasn't supposed to train my skills? I wasn't supposed to try to get rich? I wasn't supposed to have a fun time? I don't cheat, I take small things, and turn them into bigger things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You are not smart, you are just a lying, cheating brat in a party hat. If you truly were smart you would realize that.

 

 

 

I'm not smart? Because I have the correct timing to Special someone when I PK? Because I know how to get first hit in every stake? Because I probably have a higher total at 66 Combat then you do? Because I know how to PLAY THE GAME?

 

 

 

Yes. I lie. I deceive players for their items. I don't scam, nor would I ever, because that IS cheating. But luring in the wild is NOT cheating because you are given a CLEAR warning you CAN AND MOST LIKELY WILL DIE.

 

 

 

I'm a cheating brat. Already argued why I am not cheating, and I'm anything but spoiled so I'm not a brat. I'm just smarter then you are.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with Wakka. Jagex would ban luring in a second if it was easily reportable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jagex could ban luring if they wanted to. They simply don't care -- it's easier to turn a blind eye to the problem than to make an effort. That's all there is to this.

Your absolutely right. They don't care. They put up a warning and that should be all thats nescesarry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And people deserve to get carjacked if they drive into bad neighborhoods, so this means carjackers are doing nothing wrong. :wall:

 

 

 

Hell yeah. If you drive into a ghetto and knowingly park your car which is worth stealing don't expect it to be there the next morning. Of course there is a difference in morality between stealing Pixels and stealing a car.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They don't care, yet they moderate the RSOF to keep advertising for a luring partner down ? If they really didn't care about it all, if it were in the spirit of the game, then they would for sure allow that to be advertised.

Alright, they don't approve of luring, but it's still not against the rules. EDIT: Just read the post above me and noticed JAGeX changed it to Luring now being reportable. Still won't do anything though. They can't prove it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fix the bolded statement. Just doing you a favor, pointing out a flaw. I agree, there's a difference between stealing pixels and a car. Since they're only pixels, you should have no problem keeping your hands off of others pixels.

But isn't the game more fun with more Pixels? I always thought so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No, most are a lot worse.

I'm a bad person by using people's stupidity against them? Funny I always thought I was doing them a favour by pointing out their flaws. I find luring fun. I find knowing exactly what someone else is thinking entertaining. The loot is just a bonus. As I said before. Me having fun, making RS money, and training my skills does not make me scum.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The things you look for can also be found in staking: great rewards, outsmarting people, using your opponent's weaknesses to your advantage. The only difference is that the other party actually expects/prepares to engage in a fight. Maybe you should try a (MMO)RTS since you consider the loot only to be a bonus over outsmarting people.

But as I also said before Luring is pretty much staking with little to no risk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So? Should it be allowed? If you make a stupid comment of which I or others already commented on in above quote then you will be ignored.

[luker2d2]

hmm well if your stupid egnough to get lured then maybe you deserve it but i cant see how they would get the evidence.

[DRUMINATOR17]

I knew that this was coming from you or one of the others i saw posting in that thread yesterday and i thought about this first thing when i saw the new update to rule 2 today.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways...That being said...Obviously whatever you or I think about whether or not lureing should be allowed no longer matters as it is it not allowed by Jagex. Being the now Newly reportable offence that it is (still want to see how they go about determining / catching you guys) should make some people want to clean up their act and change their ways for the better. However there are going to be a few lurers im sure who will think that this increases their chances of even better loot from luring now so im postive this rule wont really stop it all together.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All that being said...I have a question for you rose the poster of this topic now, as your question to us the responders seems quite vague in comparison after you talks of last nights topic "the mentality of a lurer" one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What will you know do since luring has been "banned"? Will you change your ways or continue to play in the same fashion that you did but a day before this update?

[King_Peter18]

Just to clear up any further arguments.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[wakka102]

Please don't post stuff like this. Luring is and has always been scamming. If you can't understand that simple fact they you are an idiot. Lieing and deceiving others is what defines a scam and thats exactly what lurers do, they lie and deceive. I knew it was coming and I'm sure with the increase in lurer's they new it was coming also. I'm not sure how it could be a reportable offence since it doesn't happen in the course of 30 seconds (or was it 1 minute?) but I'm glad to see this change, at least it might put off 50% of the lurer's that are currently out there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I love what Andrew had to say on this topic. It sums up what I think exactly although I do think the people who get lured (that aren't new players to the game) have the IQ of a carrot.

[ugafan_2009]

It shouldn't, and I wish they would ban DK lurers. They're much more dangerous than wildy ones.

[wakka102]

It shouldn't, and I wish they would ban DK lurers. They're much more dangerous than wildy ones.

You can't exactly ban that because its not breaking any rules. Luring only breaks rules because it involved lieing which is scamming. DK lurers don't say anything to you to deceive you and alot of DK lures could be unintentional (another team shows up and goes in as normal but then reolizes another team is there, however, its too late at that point). That means that everytime you enter the DK lair you're at risk for being reported as a lurer which isnt right.

[Bauke]

Nice post from Andrew on the maturity/kids issue. He's quite right there.

[bbalking]

Please don't post stuff like this. Luring is and has always been scamming. If you can't understand that simple fact they you are an idiot. Lieing and deceiving others is what defines a scam and thats exactly what lurers do, they lie and deceive. I knew it was coming and I'm sure with the increase in lurer's they new it was coming also. I'm not sure how it could be a reportable offence since it doesn't happen in the course of 30 seconds (or was it 1 minute?) but I'm glad to see this change, at least it might put off 50% of the lurer's that are currently out there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Absolute Bull! it is nothing like the everyday lleaf bladed spear scam, switching money amounts or anything like that! A player knows they are entering the wild as the warning sign appears. This rule update has been made due to the large number of 11 year olds complaining about their loss of rune... FFS these people aren't even supposed to have accounts yet they change the rules to suit them! MONEY GRABBING SCUM! Stop messing around and let the game be played. Normal players who play for entertain not because of addiction are generally smart enough not to trade outside of a bank... the people that aren't need to learn the lesson to not be so bloody gullable!

[bbalking]

Please don't post stuff like this. Luring is and has always been scamming. If you can't understand that simple fact they you are an idiot. Lieing and deceiving others is what defines a scam and thats exactly what lurers do, they lie and deceive. I knew it was coming and I'm sure with the increase in lurer's they new it was coming also. I'm not sure how it could be a reportable offence since it doesn't happen in the course of 30 seconds (or was it 1 minute?) but I'm glad to see this change, at least it might put off 50% of the lurer's that are currently out there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Absolute Bull! it is nothing like the everyday leaf bladed spear scam, switching money amounts or anything like that! A player knows they are entering the wild as the warning sign appears. This rule update has been made due to the large number of 11 year olds complaining about their loss of rune... hell these people aren't even supposed to have accounts yet they change the rules to suit them! MONEY GRABBING SCUM! Stop messing around and let the game be played. Normal players who play for entertain not because of addiction are generally smart enough not to trade outside of a bank... the people that aren't need to learn the lesson to not be so bloody gullable!

[Lakitsym_Rose]

What will you know do since luring has been "banned"? Will you change your ways or continue to play in the same fashion that you did but a day before this update?

 

 

 

I've made around 60M Staking since I got hacked, and then I had 220M Cash, and two Party Hats, Red and White. Roughly 500M? Which I made from staking.

[Celestrana]

 

What will you know do since luring has been "banned"? Will you change your ways or continue to play in the same fashion that you did but a day before this update?

 

 

 

I've made around 60M Staking since I got hacked, and then I had 220M Cash, and two Party Hats, Red and White. Roughly 500M? Which I made from staking.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Absolutely nothing wrong with staking at the Duel Arena. AND there's nothing wrong with using your skills strategically and being familiar with combat tactics.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If a player has a premeditated motive to tell another player to go to a specific place in order to kill them for their own gain, then in real-life thats can be called "premeditated homicide" or "homicide with the intent to kill". (Ok, for all the people who are lawyers or have a lawyer in the family, are in law enforcement or have a family in law enforcement, I may be using the incorrect term as I am not a lawyer nor in law enforcement.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Runescape should be no different. People who purposely tell a player to go somewhere so that they can be killed for their own gain are luring. If you're sitting in the wilderness, waiting for somebody to walk by so you can ambush them, go for it. Ambushing another player is no problem since you didn't intend to kill that specific player because you're treating all targets as equal "prey".

[wakka102]

 

Please don't post stuff like this. Luring is and has always been scamming. If you can't understand that simple fact they you are an idiot. Lieing and deceiving others is what defines a scam and thats exactly what lurers do, they lie and deceive. I knew it was coming and I'm sure with the increase in lurer's they new it was coming also. I'm not sure how it could be a reportable offence since it doesn't happen in the course of 30 seconds (or was it 1 minute?) but I'm glad to see this change, at least it might put off 50% of the lurer's that are currently out there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Absolute Bull! it is nothing like the everyday leaf bladed spear scam, switching money amounts or anything like that! A player knows they are entering the wild as the warning sign appears. This rule update has been made due to the large number of 11 year olds complaining about their loss of rune... hell these people aren't even supposed to have accounts yet they change the rules to suit them! MONEY GRABBING SCUM! Stop messing around and let the game be played. Normal players who play for entertain not because of addiction are generally smart enough not to trade outside of a bank... the people that aren't need to learn the lesson to not be so bloody gullable!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What does 'scam' mean?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To 'scam' means to cheat another player during a trade. Lying to other players for your own personal gain is not in the spirit of the game and will not be tolerated.

that was taken from the official site. Notice the bold. That is EXACLTY what you are doing! How can you not see that? It's been there since this rule was made! Honestly, it has less to do then the actual wilderness part and more to do with the fact that you said you would do something, yet didn't and led them into a trap! for person gain! that is scamming, its right there, read it and get it into you're head.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do agree that these people are not very smart. But they still don't deserve such rotten treatment. YOU are the reason this gaming community has gotten worse YOU are the definition of the rotten players in RS that everyone talks about. Earn money a decent way and stop trying to earn it in a immature manner.

[baron8000]

=D> for Andrew defending his own game so eloquently.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really do love all the lurers shouting "omfg we quit", they think we will worry why?

[Lakitsym_Rose]

Basically the key point is the bit at the top of rule 2 which states "Lying to other players for your own personal gain is not in the spirit of the game."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Obviously killing people in the wilderness is all part of the game and IS allowed. That IS all part of the game, and is a risk you take when you enter that area.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's the lying to people to take advantage of them that we think is a bit not on. Therefore PKers absolutely do NOT need to worry about this changes. The only people who need to worry are those who are deliberately deceptively tempting people into the wilderness under false pretenses, which is a very different thing.

As I said before concerning the "Jojo Lure" we don't lie to get them into the wilderness. We lie to get them to the area to lure them. But we never force them into the wild.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The whole idea of the wilderness is it's a more dangerous place, it's more risky, but at the same time (hopefully) more exciting as a result. But the idea all along was the people going there know the risks, and it's a risk they willingly choose to take. Obviously luring goes against all that.

How the hell does luring go against all that? It goes against it being a dangerous place? You said yourself people going there know the risks, and it's a risk they willingly choose to take. WE DON'T FORCE ANYONE INTO THE WILDERNESS, THEY CHOOSE SO WILLINGLY.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To the people saying "the world is a hard place, people should get over it". Yes I agree the world IS a hard place, but that's no reason to make it even worse! Just because lots of nasty things happen is no reason to go and do even more nasty things! That's a terrible attitude. It's still worth TRYING to make it a nicer place.

Absolutely. But if anything we're helping people by making them angry enough to quit. I know friend's whose lives have actually been destroyed by this game. I actually know someone who had to take Junior year over because of RuneScape. But still not much to argue against there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To the people saying this is all just making RuneScape "just for kids". I say what a load of nonsense! RuneScape is not targeted just at kids and never has been. In actual fact the people here working on RuneScape are all avid gamers, and basically our aim has always been to make the game we ourselves would want to play, and to make what we see as the best possible game. (I.e our target audience is essentially ourselves, and people like us. Obviously everyone working here is over 18). Of course we do have a lot of younger players, particularly because the game can be played for free, and we recognize that we have a certain responsibility with regards to safety, which is why we take that so very seriously. BUT from an actual in-game gameplay point of view the difficult of the puzzles, the complexity of the plots, etc... is all very targeted at people like ourselves. We have a whole variety of different types of gamers here, and so we're trying to make something which appeals to everyone. There are no plans to change that.

I still agree most of my RuneScape Friends are 20+, a fair amount of 30+, and even a couple 40+. I have been playing RuneScape for a long time, it wasn't made for kids. In fact in old RSC most people were 18+.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What I really think is mad is how when we take steps to improve the quality of our community (for example by kicking our the bad players), some people claim that is "catering to kids"! Eh?! By saying that you are implying you think that adults don't mind nasty deceitful players who lie for their own personal gain, but kids do! Eh!? This has absolutely nothing to do with "catering to kids" and everything to do with simply making RuneScape a nicer place to be for everyone.

Again, not much to argue against that has nothing to do with my point.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To the people who say this ruins the game - stop being so pathetic. If the only way you can enjoy yourself is by taking advantage of others, then you aren't welcome here. Go play a different game, and everyone else can enjoy an improved community.

Well said. But is Merchanting not taking advantage of others? Is Staking not taking advantage of others? Is PKing not taking advantage of others? Are buying items such as Logs, Herbs, Seeds, Weapons, Armour, Runes, Arrows, Raw Fish, Hides, Bones, Food, and Essence not taking advantage of others? This game revolves around taking advantage of others, positive or negative. If you wanted it to be all positive maybe you should have thought about that before you posted it on Miniclip bud.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rose

[dude_of_war4]

lurers are scum along with scammers. period

[Bludragon124]

I am very happy about this. I'm glad it's now officially a scam, it should have been long ago. Lurers, you lose. And I'm very glad about this.

[Trojann2]

I agree with what Andrew says 100%. :)

[Arthu]

Scamming should be allowed in scamilderness, just like how killing is allowed in wilderness.

 

 

 

Every town include to scamilderness. I greatly would like to see scamming legalized. Not because I would scam, but because I would have less chances of getting banned by accident.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We are allowed to thieve NPCs but not players? C'mon.

 

 

 

Player with 99 thieving can't try to thieve some pathetic billions from other players? WHERE's THE ROLE PLAYING ELEMENT?

[Lakitsym_Rose]

 

What does 'scam' mean?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To 'scam' means to cheat another player during a trade. Lying to other players for your own personal gain is not in the spirit of the game and will not be tolerated.

that was taken from the official site. Notice the bold. That is EXACLTY what you are doing! How can you not see that? It's been there since this rule was made! Honestly, it has less to do then the actual wilderness part and more to do with the fact that you said you would do something, yet didn't and led them into a trap! for person gain! that is scamming, its right there, read it and get it into you're head.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I do agree that these people are not very smart. But they still don't deserve such rotten treatment. YOU are the reason this gaming community has gotten worse YOU are the definition of the rotten players in RS that everyone talks about. Earn money a decent way and stop trying to earn it in a immature manner.

I've made most of my money PKing and Staking. In total I have around 30M from PKing, and 60m+ from Staking, I also said I have made around 700M from staking in the previous post to Druminator. Pretty sure thats all Decent.

 

 

 

Luring is finding loop-holes in the rules. The current loop-hole is with the Jojo lure. No one forces them into the wild. End of story. Unless I can telekinetically move their character into the wild I'm completely innocent. You can't prove I wasn't going to drop a certain item, no one can.

[wild_goat_14]

Scamming should be allowed in scamilderness, just like how killing is allowed in wilderness.

 

 

 

Every town include to scamilderness. I greatly would like to see scamming legalized. Not because I would scam, but because I would have less chances of getting banned by accident.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We are allowed to thieve NPCs but not players? C'mon.

 

 

 

Player with 99 thieving can't try to thieve some pathetic billions from other players? WHERE's THE ROLE PLAYING ELEMENT?

 

 

 

Heck, we should be able to kill outside the wilderness too. I mean, we can kill NPCs but not players? C'mon.

 

 

 

Player with 126 combat can't try to kill some pathetic billions from the merchanter in World 2? WHERE'S THE ROLE PLAYING ELEMENT?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats exactly how you sound. We shouldnt get peoples money from their hard work just because we want it. Thats not true, so get your [wagon] out of World 2 Fally park trying to sell a skirt instead of a helm, and do something productive dammit!

[Lakitsym_Rose]

lurers are scum along with scammers. period

Nice constructive post. Thanks for adding to the topic. Your the type of moron who got lured once now whenever they attempt to lure you you go a long with it and Teleport once your in wild just to mess with them, or bring nothing at all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am very happy about this. I'm glad it's now officially a scam, it should have been long ago. Lurers, you lose. And I'm very glad about this

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

WRONG. We don't force anyone into the Wilderness. It's simple as that I don't know why I need to continuously repeat myself.

[wakka102]

As I said before concerning the "Jojo Lure" we don't lie to get them into the wilderness. We lie to get them to the area to lure them. But we never force them into the wild.

You just admitted to scamming by saying "We lie to get them to the area to lure them". You're leading them on, for personal gain.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How the hell does luring go against all that? It goes against it being a dangerous place? You said yourself people going there know the risks,and it's a risk they willingly choose to take. WE DON'T FORCE ANYONE INTO THE WILDERNESS, THEY CHOOSE SO WILLINGLY.

so according to you're logic item scamming should also be legal because they weren't forced to do the trade? Just because someone isnt forced to do it doesn't mean it shouldn't be against the rules.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Absolutely. But if anything we're helping people by making them angry enough to quit. I know friend's whose lives have actually been destroyed by this game. I actually know someone who had to take Junior year over because of RuneScape. But still not much to argue against there.

The ones that need to quit are the lurers. I'd rather have the annoying noobs then all the stuck up liers who shows off all the items they stole.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well said. But is Merchanting not taking advantage of others? Is Staking not taking advantage of others? Is PKing not taking advantage of others? Are buying items such as Logs, Herbs, Seeds, Weapons, Armour, Runes, Arrows, Raw Fish, Hides, Bones, Food, and Essence not taking advantage of others? This game revolves around taking advantage of others, positive or negative. If you wanted it to be all positive maybe you should have thought about that before you posted it on Miniclip bud.

Merchanting does not take advantage others at all. Who lies when you merchant? you look for deals that are a little under priced and then you sell it for a higher price. There is no lies involved in that. If you were lieing it would be item scamming which is totally diferent. Pking does not take advantage of others because you aren't lieing to anybody to get them there. They DID go there on there own, with items they were willing to risk. How does buying materials have anything to do with anything? I dont get you're point there. This game does not revolve around taking advantage of others? what do you mean???

[hellbellz]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well said. But is Merchanting not taking advantage of others? Is Staking not taking advantage of others? Is PKing not taking advantage of others? Are buying items such as Logs, Herbs, Seeds, Weapons, Armour, Runes, Arrows, Raw Fish, Hides, Bones, Food, and Essence not taking advantage of others? This game revolves around taking advantage of others, positive or negative. If you wanted it to be all positive maybe you should have thought about that before you posted it on Miniclip bud.

Merchanting does not take advantage others at all. Who lies when you merchant? you look for deals that are a little under priced and then you sell it for a higher price. There is no lies involved in that. If you were lieing it would be item scamming which is totally diferent. Pking does not take advantage of others because you aren't lieing to anybody to get them there. They DID go there on there own, with items they were willing to risk. How does buying materials have anything to do with anything? I dont get you're point there. This game does not revolve around taking advantage of others? what do you mean???

When you PK, you risk yourself of losing items. You don't get lied to. Merchanting, you look for lower prices, or sell for higher. =;

[racethunder]

i think its a realy goood and easy way to get some money

 

 

 

tho, u scam some1, and thats baaad

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and u must be rly stupid for fall for their lure tricks..